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Maj.Cottonmouth

We are Farmers
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Well in my insanity (noob stupidity :wallbash:) I have all hazes going in my veg room and 3 of them are getting out of control tall and I was going to top them down from 36" to be around 26" so I had a reasonably even canopy.

This thread inspired me to abuse my sativa dominant plants instead of just whacking the tops down so I used a method described in this thread that I had to use in my flower room to stop a plant from humping a 1000w HPS.

Basically all you do is crush and twist the stem severely at the height you want the new top of the plant to be and then bend it over 180 degrees and secure it to its base.

Plants were all topped previously so there are two main tops per plant, click on thumbnails for larger version.

Tall top at a little over 36 inches.


Short top at almost 31 inches


Secured with a twist tie


One did split, we will see what happens


Now this one is a nice 26 inches tall like the shorter pheno


All three tall ones after molestation and two regular sized pheno


Below is a link to my album for my third grow and if I forget to update this thread you can always look there :joint:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=17554
 

Maj.Cottonmouth

We are Farmers
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Thank you GrnMtFinn and SumDumGuy, I am trying. I think they would be better if I had not kept them in 1 gallon pot to try and keep them small, I need to redo my veg area to maximize room.
 

vicious bee

Member
Speaking of twist. How about this:
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I learned this from DaShadow but carried it to the extreme. You grab the stem every 1/2 inch or so and twist perpendicular to the stem. You twist until you break loose the fibers in the plant. While twisting you bend. The main thing is not to get a kink. When I say break loose the fibers I mean break. I had to use nursery tape to tape up some that I over twisted. I killed a couple of plants doing this but it worked fine for most. You have to do it slowly and maybe even twisting closer than 1/2 inch. Watering the stems til soaked helps. DaShadow uses it to bend over large plants before the end of flower. I abused the concept. Got a little carried away. If you see the above plant you know why I'm impressed with the plant in a jar. Seems more humane somehow.
 

SumDumGuy

"easy growing type"
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Speaking of twist. How about this:
picture.php

I learned this from DaShadow but carried it to the extreme. You grab the stem every 1/2 inch or so and twist perpendicular to the stem. You twist until you break loose the fibers in the plant. While twisting you bend. The main thing is not to get a kink. When I say break loose the fibers I mean break. I had to use nursery tape to tape up some that I over twisted. I killed a couple of plants doing this but it worked fine for most. You have to do it slowly and maybe even twisting closer than 1/2 inch. Watering the stems til soaked helps. DaShadow uses it to bend over large plants before the end of flower. I abused the concept. Got a little carried away. If you see the above plant you know why I'm impressed with the plant in a jar. Seems more humane somehow.

INSANE!!! Very nice!
 

intel2000

Member
Vicious you seem like an experimenter - a scientist almost. You should make a thread with all your creations. I am impressed
 

vicious bee

Member
Certainly not a scientist. I just like to mix a little and experiment. I don't cash crop or anything like that. If I did I wouldn't post at all. I like to try all kinds of stuff. I get bored easy. Watching grass just grow is no fun.
 

High Country

Give me a Kenworth truck, an 18 speed box and I'll
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Plants need O2 and CO2 which are all available in the air we breath. For a long flowering tall sativa, if light and space is an issue, why not just train them and flower early.

LST, super crop, SCROG, SOG
 

watson540

Member
because if no one ever experimented we would never have new cool ideas and methods...im sure LST and SCROG were new at some point...and I bet FIM had some discussions over it before those people stopped getting ridiculed too..

I say..experiment on, and thanks for sharing (I wouldnt put down people like this, it may have just discouraged the OP from coming back..whats the point of all the negativity?)
 

vicious bee

Member
Cause I can put an opaque plastic bucket in my back yard and no one can tell what's in it. I have several plants that I just want F2's. Could care less about the yield, weed. etc.. Just want F2 seeds. I also have zero space to put them. Not a small space. Zero space. If not in buckets then not at all.
 

ZigZagFag

New member
Sorry for deserting my post but I've been busy. So here's an update.

A lot of people said take off the lid and I did, even though I have had tropicals in sealed terrariums for years without maintenance. So I took off the lids and the two plants just died overnight. All the leaves just crumpled. Just from taking off the lids. One plant never recovered and just dried right out. But the second plant started to grow and now it's in a very good light from the 430 son agro. The roots have stayed very tiny in their few inches of soil but the leaves have come on nicely. There's a branch just starting at each internode and the internode lengths are very very short. The leaves are very narrow and the new leaves are coming out like hairs. At this point I would call it a dwarf. This huge sativa is now only about 8" tall after several months.

Sorry for the crappy photo, I'll try and take some better ones later this week.

:moon:
 

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