Mcveigh Tapes

[LovableHuggable]

Graham Leach Billey is what did it in. That allowed the big banks to lever to the hilt instead of max 12:1 that was instated during Great Depression. It also allowed for them to get huge like Citi and become too big to fail. The FED itself was levered up to 54:1 last time I looked. The M1 or multiplier is under 1 too. So for every new dollar of debt put in less comes out. FIAT machine in reverse!

Edit: We got ourselves a deflationary collapse.

 

[SpasticGramps]

FIAT machine in reverse!

That's really fucked up lol. What a mess. This black hole of systematic market risk placed on the tax payer constitutes nothing less than slavery.

But, the slaves can't revolt if they don't know they are slaves.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

The are going to brand the Tea Party and other patriots calling out the Fascist Establishment as terrorists, as they are already doing. The same game they use to create the Islamic threat will be used to crush patriots at home.

They will run another major false flag operation and kill a bunch of people and blame it on anti-government dissent and have some lame ass cover story full of holes that hopefully people will have removed their head's far enough from their rectum to see through. It will be another "lone wolf" patsy fall guy.

That's how they squashed the rising dissent in the 1995 and that's what they will try and do again. They are really ramping up and pumping the washed masses with fear at the moment so I doubt that it's too far off.

Dissent has no place in Fascist USA and we are fools to think the criminals that run this country won't strike again to illicit sympathy for the Federal Government. These are the games of war that the big boys play with the little pawns.

crazy...i can definately see it happening again like what they did to ruby ridge and TM. fucking pisses me off.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Poor old Vicky Weaver - a single head-shot and the goober-right is still pissing and moaning 20 years later.

Touching - to say the least. Not too many 'soldiers' in this forum I'm guessing.

Killing an idiot's wife is simply 'collateral damage' as the military expression goes. No big deal - another dead enemy under the Bush 1 administration. You know - the Repuba-Bubba defender of civil rights.

Not like the 'colored' guy we have in the 'White' House, eh?

LMAO

CC

 

[apartmentblower]

Poor old Vicky Weaver - a single head-shot and the goober-right is still pissing and moaning 20 years later.

Touching - to say the least. Not too many 'soldiers' in this forum I'm guessing.

Killing an idiot's wife is simply 'collateral damage' as the military expression goes. No big deal - another dead enemy under the Bush 1 administration. You know - the Repuba-Bubba defender of civil rights.

Not like the 'colored' guy we have in the 'White' House, eh?

LMAO

CC

I really don't understand what you are trying to say in any of your posts. not an attack just i dont understand your position.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

clackamous is fulla shit. "collateral damage" hes totally mising the point.

the point IS....at ruby ridge the guy they were after wasnt even a threat in the first place. his wife was hiding behind a door with a baby in her arms, she had no weapons and was not firing at the feds. the feds intentionally provoked an attack and responded with ILLEGAL use of force including an ILLEGAL ROE where the CO told his snipers to shoot at anything. (you arent even allowed to do that in afghanistan anymore "soldier")

If it was in Iraq and the wife of some hadji whos firing on troops gets hit, THEN your position fits CC. My point is that this guy wasnt even a real threat, he didnt intend to commit harm, he was just living in the forest with his family and the feds got a search warrant that was unjustified and sparked off a confrontation.

CC is just trying to start shit assuming we are all republicans complaining about obama..comes off like a damn jerk.

 

[SpasticGramps]

Poor old Vicky Weaver - a single head-shot and the goober-right is still pissing and moaning 20 years later.

Touching - to say the least. Not too many 'soldiers' in this forum I'm guessing.

Killing an idiot's wife is simply 'collateral damage' as the military expression goes. No big deal - another dead enemy under the Bush 1 administration. You know - the Repuba-Bubba defender of civil rights.

Not like the 'colored' guy we have in the 'White' House, eh?

LMAO

CC

Your political philosophy is totally lost on me. Why not try explaining yourself in some sort of intelligible way? Or can you not support your insults with facts?

 

[LovableHuggable]

Sounds like he still buys the right left bs and hasn't figured out it's special interest group vs special interest group. Citizens vs them.

Edit: Also don't let all the corruption and shenanigans get you down thinking it all just started. It's been going on forever. Boss Tweed is a good example for USA.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

yea really the only logical thing you can do to fight the system is to grow trees, honestly. become self sustained...grow trees and some crops and livestock to claim taxes on. stay out of the stock market, wall street, banks, etc...and just do your own thing. trying to take shit to a militant level is gonna end up in death or jail.

even if the government imposes all sorts of crazy new laws...if im hundresd of miles out in the country the effects will be much less. fuck em all.

 

[LovableHuggable]

I agree 100% on that. The only thing you can do is limit as much of your taxable liability as possible. The money is all that matters.

 

[Rocky Mtn Squid]

Here is an interview that Alex Jones recently had with Jane Graham.

Jane Graham, is a legit OKC bombing witness/survivor who revealed in a video affidavit that men in General Services Administration uniforms were in the Murrah federal building prior to the attack.

I must admit there are time's that Alex Jones acts like a complete lunatic, especially when he rants and loses his composure on air. Moreover, his ego is so huge that he must have problems breathing whenever he is in a confined space. To call him a blowhard is very much an understatement.

Despite all this, he is extremely intelligent, well read and researched, and has some amazing guest's on his show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGdtgotcZdw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE5N7ugbBns

I haven't extensively researched the entire OKC bombing, but from what I have read, it's more than obvious and downright sickening that chances are that the US government was behind it.

Sick twisted fucker's..........

 

[jd4083]

No, no, no. Alex Jones and anything connected to him is just plain not a credible source. He is indeed a blowhard and FAR from "well-read and -researched." He is a fear-monger just like major news outlets and feeds off of ignorance.

 

[bombadil.360]

so first, some of you said that intelligence services were told about the attack, and condemn intelligence; and next, a witness says intelligence was on the scene prior to the bombing, and then condemn intelligence for the attack...

are some of you serious or just trying to pull people's legs?

I'm with jd4083 about alex jones, the guy is a joke.

and timothy was a wacko... how was he going to fix anything by bombing a civilian building?

 

[jd4083]

At this point I've learned to ignore conspiracy theorists who believe our government has something to gain from killing its own people over, and over, and over, and over again (WTC #1...WTC #2 (9/11)...fed building...et al)

I figure these idiots will walk into traffic or otherwise put Darwinism into action at some point in the near future either way, so it's a waste of time to reason with the unreasonable.

peace

 

[SpasticGramps]

No, no, no. Alex Jones and anything connected to him is just plain not a credible source.

What about Ron Paul who spends a lot of time talking with Jones? Is he not a credible source? Is Ron Paul a fear monger?

Everywhere you turn around their is fear being promoted. Economists who are looking outside of the neo-economic box that is sold to people on TV and mainstream media know what is about to happen. So for the people whose head is out of the sand it is a disturbing picture. We are in a climatic event in economic and political history.

The numbers and charts don't lie and too think this was all done on accident because we have dummies in Washington is foolish. The people pulling the strings have premier secondary schools and Ivy League Educations. Look at the schools they give you. They are far from foolish.

 

[SpasticGramps]

I figure these idiots will walk into traffic or otherwise put Darwinism into action at some point in the near future either way, so it's a waste of time to reason with the unreasonable.

peace

This is a great statement. I hope you enjoy hyperinflation. The irony is going to be a bitch for you to eat latter down the road.

 

[LovableHuggable]

Alex is a fear monger truth distorter. He's no different than the rest of them. It's sad b/c he has an opportunity to really be credible but he is more concerned with stirring fear to keep you on his site and driving his profits.

Edit: Find the robot dogs article of his from a year or so ago and I'll show you what I mean.

Edit: Hyperinflation isn't coming. Deflationary collapse is. Ben straight up printed through QE and he still couldn't get the FIAT machine into forward and it won't b/c the bad debt must be cleansed but that's not the path they are taking. Japan is a good place to look at what we have coming. They blew an asset bubble there and they got a lost generation and now a depression. All Ben's printing did is inflate the stock market.

 

[SpasticGramps]

It's all about the money for everyone. $$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[bombadil.360]

The people pulling the strings have premier secondary schools and Ivy League Educations. Look at the schools they give you. They are far from foolish.

Gramps, a little constructive criticism, but you seem to over-estimate 'people pulling the strings' as well as 'non-american intellectuals', and under-estimate a lot of people whom you consider 'prole' because they do not readily agree with you.

being outside or inside the U.S does not make a difference in terms of understanding and intelligence. we should not judge through such standards. I don't live nor was raised nor born in the U.S, and I see as much ignorance outside the U.S as you see within your country; only difference is the 'flavor' in which ignorance comes in, it is a little different in every country, yet it is still ignorance.

be good.

 

[LovableHuggable]

LOL I guess I missed today's action on the PPI. Huge increases in crap. Like biggest in 25 years.