WHY ARE FEM SEEDS SO EXPENSIVE?

[darwinsbulldog]

why are feminized seeds so expensive guys? i'm just wondering because there's always almost 1/2 to a whole time more expensive than non feminized seeds. aren't they feminized only with a special hormone? correct me if i'm wrong. but if this is so how is the added price justified by this somewhat simple sounding process??

cheers, darwin

 

[love?]

Simply because (very many) people are willing to pay a premium price for the convenience of not having any males. A matter of supply and demand really. It's true that they aren't really much more difficult to make than regular seeds.

 

[darwinsbulldog]

yeah i had a feeling that would be the case, but it hardly seems that these companies are running low on seeds. is it easy to buy said hormones to convert your own seeds that you buy into females if you get a mixed pack? when does it need to be done hwile seeds are forming on the plant or after they've formed etc? and also for your own use when breeding your own plants at home. cheers for the reply love

 

[buddah]

because the are soo easy to make!!!
its crazy - less work - more money!!

 

[love?]

There are a couple of options and some of them are easier to get ahold of than others. The easiest way is to make your own with a colloidal silver generator.

You need two plants (female) and you start applying the solution quite early to one of them (dunno how early, bet that thread I mentioned above will say so read up). When it hermies you use the pollen to pollinate the other girl and then wait for the seeds to mature (so it needs to be done 4-6 weeks before chop).

Sorry I don't understand the question about a mixed pack, do you mean regular/non-feminized seeds? Yes you can make feminized seeds from those, just keep the girls, apply chemicals on one or more them and that's it.

 

[rogerw]

You could also buy some gibberilac [sp] acid and follow the directions . I plan on doing this along with the silver thing this summer and see whats the best 1.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

the seed business is fulla money. you can pull hundreds and thousands of seeds. even selling at discount prices 10 for 40 bucks you can still make nice coin.

when your Rez and selling 10 for 200....damn no wonder dude drivin what he drives....50k in sales every drop is no joke...thats money right there.

and its all about convienience. ive got hundreds of free seeds but i gotta grow em all out and see whats male/female. if you are all female you are saving on costs to grow out and find the males.

 

[darwinsbulldog]

There are a couple of options and some of them are easier to get ahold of than others. The easiest way is to make your own with a colloidal silver generator.

You need two plants (female) and you start applying the solution quite early to one of them (dunno how early, bet that thread I mentioned above will say so read up). When it hermies you use the pollen to pollinate the other girl and then wait for the seeds to mature (so it needs to be done 4-6 weeks before chop).

Sorry I don't understand the question about a mixed pack, do you mean regular/non-feminized seeds? Yes you can make feminized seeds from those, just keep the girls, apply chemicals on one or more them and that's it.

yeah sorry mix pack i just meant standard seeds non feminized ones. cheers.

 

[darwinsbulldog]

ps thanks a shit load for that link love i'm reading it now mate. cheers

 

[darwinsbulldog]

the seed business is fulla money. you can pull hundreds and thousands of seeds. even selling at discount prices 10 for 40 bucks you can still make nice coin.

when your Rez and selling 10 for 200....damn no wonder dude drivin what he drives....50k in sales every drop is no joke...thats money right there.

and its all about convienience. ive got hundreds of free seeds but i gotta grow em all out and see whats male/female. if you are all female you are saving on costs to grow out and find the males.

yeah for sure i see what you mean. especially high prices for rare and hard to come by strains, and those that are outdone by demand. but it's sort of frustrating that people can charge you a shit load when it doesn't cost them anything really, it's just saving YOU your time that they're charging you for. it'd be fair if it was costing them time/money to feminize but yeah i dunno seems a bit selfish it's like if i bought a car and wanted to sell it to you but it needed work done on it, so i go pay 200 bucks for 5 mins work and fix it up then charge you an extra 2000 bucks because now you don't have to go do it yourself.

 

[HempHut]

It makes sense from the numbers:

10 normal seeds = 50% female on average. Lets say $100 for the 10 to keep it simple.

Most people are looking for fems only, so they really are paying $100 for five of those beans as five will be culled and trashed. So, that's $20 a seed.

The same seed fem pack will likely be twice the price or the same price but only have 5 seeds instead of 10. In the end, you're still paying $20 a seed because there will be none culled due to being unwanted males.

How easy/hard it is is to produce those fems is irrelevant in the market. The value comes from the time, effort and space saved by running seeds that one knows will be female and the fact that the cost per keeper plant is roughly the same.

The story changes if you want males/pollen and plan on producing your own seed or breeding, of course.

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

supply and demand set prices for any item in a market place. High demand = high price and scarcity. Low demand = low prices and excess supplies.

Feminized seeds are expensive because they are the most desired seeds by cannabis growers.

 

[love?]

I just realized this is one of the few things in life where the less expensive option is better than the more expensive one, at least according to my standards.

What a sweet deal!

 

[buddah]

funny is only one female is needed....

 

[one Q]

based on what I read, be carefull who you get fem seeds from tho.

Can some ppl name some companies that they had bad female seed runs... ie: lots/all herms or a male or two or lower germ rates.

This thread could become interesting and helpful for ppl looking into the idea of buying a pack in the near future.

 

[Elevator Man]

Personally I would never buy feminized seeds, partly on principle, as I believe a dioecious species should be allowed to be just that - I don't mind culling males, as seeing them grow is an education in itself. Granted, I do have an interest in breeding, but that interest has allowed me to grow much better-quality weed a a result, as I understand better the botanical principles behind what I'm doing.

Also, I'm not convinced that the processes used to create feminized seed ultimately creates a true, stable female - maybe in the first generation, but I wouldn't feel safe crossing it out, as the unknown permutations are too much for my little head to deal with. But crossing strains together (ideally with landrace heritage) is the best way to make new strains, IMO.

 

[darwinsbulldog]

Personally I would never buy feminized seeds, partly on principle, as I believe a dioecious species should be allowed to be just that - I don't mind culling males, as seeing them grow is an education in itself. Granted, I do have an interest in breeding, but that interest has allowed me to grow much better-quality weed a a result, as I understand better the botanical principles behind what I'm doing.

Also, I'm not convinced that the processes used to create feminized seed ultimately creates a true, stable female - maybe in the first generation, but I wouldn't feel safe crossing it out, as the unknown permutations are too much for my little head to deal with. But crossing strains together (ideally with landrace heritage) is the best way to make new strains, IMO.

yeah that's it mate and that's what i've done and plan on doing, i've made a few orders recently, all have been standard packs, a few of the strains were landrace so i plan on getting those and breeding them up to fulfill any future need as well as breeding out my own strain. but yeah i'm for the same reason, principle behind it

 

[darwinsbulldog]

i think i'd be after the chemicals to fem my own standard packs of F1 and 2 hybrids. and just take clones from the best girls.