Sea of green hints/advice please!

[growingold]

Good afternoon/evening/morning people!

Looking for some advice in growing the sog method. I understand I need lots of clones,thats not a problem Im raising a few mums at the moment.

Basicly Im trying to achieve a gram per watt (aint we all) Ive got a 600wat with a parabolic shade in a 4x4 space with a 7 feet height.

My intake & extraction are both active..drawing fresh air in from a window (summer time) and extracting into the attic,both fans are controlled with a primair.

Heres were my head goes awol..the maths!

I was thinking 50 plants in 1.5 litre pots (not sure what that is in gallons ? ) vegged for 7-10 days at the most,so to achieve my gram per watt Im after 12 grams a plant? whatcha rekon folks..possible!

My grow room is pretty well dialed in enviroment wise,temps and humidity are pretty much stable,i just fancy a change of style of grow,9 plants vegged for 4 weeks are getting to much to maintain theses days,i like the idea of more smaller plants,must be easier come trim time aswell wich cant be bad now.

Anyway Im rabbling now,dam mazar! So yeah anyone got any tips or advice for a soggy newbie id love to hear from you please,or send me some links of sog grws already on Ic so i can read and look at the pictures (thousand words & that)

Thanks for reading.

G.

 

[growingold]

Polite "bump"

Cmon guys & girls help me out please..Ive been searching (not well enough) obviously,I keep getting distracted with other links,this place is massive,just point me in the correct direction,I want to read about coco grows using the s.o.g method.

Thanks.

G.

 

[blackburngrower]

i did a simaller grow to wot your thinking about last year very high maintainence if your hand watering

 

[growingold]

In what way fella? My way of thinking is at the mo I grow 9 clones that are vegged for 3/4 weeks usually with the aim of 2oz per plant that I can achieve quite easily,but the trimming bringing them in/out to water check for bugs ect: is too much at times with a bad back

So now Im looking at maybe 50 small plants in a tray under a 600hps or less, lets say 25 vegged a tad longer this way I could plank my arse down after making up my feed and water away till my hearts content,watering daily wont be a problem,also I can just turn the tray around and water without bringing them out.

What ya rekon?

Stonded thoughts or possibly doable?

G.

 

[blackburngrower]

its easily doable pal but i just got bored of how much time i had to spend watering but if thats not a problem for you get it done lol i did mine in 1litre square pots fitted 100 of em in a 4x4 area under a 600 i started it hoping for 7g dry from each plant but some plants ended up finishing at 17g was happy with results but to much messing about for me i like to be able to leave my grow for a day or two

 

[growingold]

Niceone mate!

Your time & coments are appreciated. 100 at a time not surprised you got bored,sounds like shift work haha.

Tell me,did you veg them at all? or straight into flower? Ive got 1.4 litre pots and can fit 25 of them on a tray so now im thinking 20 grams per plant & less numbers,maybe with a 7 to 10 day veg,but would a little plant say flowered at 6 inch and stop stretching at 12 inch produce 20 g,s? Hmmmmmmmm Imgoing into info overdrive here lol

Watch out for a diary soon & see what I come up with,think im gonna need to suck & it & see as they say.

Thanks again.

G.

 

[blackburngrower]

i vegged mine for two weeks from showing roots the strain i was growing didnt stretch much when flipped. For 20gs you guna have veg a little longer but its all strain dipendant if i were you id start a few cuts at diffrent sizes find out what size you need to start them at to fit your needs guna pull up a chair and watch how it turns out for you

 

[High Country]

Good afternoon/evening/morning people!

Looking for some advice in growing the sog method. I understand I need lots of clones,thats not a problem Im raising a few mums at the moment.

Basicly Im trying to achieve a gram per watt (aint we all) Ive got a 600wat with a parabolic shade in a 4x4 space with a 7 feet height.

My intake & extraction are both active..drawing fresh air in from a window (summer time) and extracting into the attic,both fans are controlled with a primair.

Heres were my head goes awol..the maths!

I was thinking 50 plants in 1.5 litre pots (not sure what that is in gallons ? ) vegged for 7-10 days at the most,so to achieve my gram per watt Im after 12 grams a plant? whatcha rekon folks..possible!

My grow room is pretty well dialed in enviroment wise,temps and humidity are pretty much stable,i just fancy a change of style of grow,9 plants vegged for 4 weeks are getting to much to maintain theses days,i like the idea of more smaller plants,must be easier come trim time aswell wich cant be bad now.

Anyway Im rabbling now,dam mazar! So yeah anyone got any tips or advice for a soggy newbie id love to hear from you please,or send me some links of sog grws already on Ic so i can read and look at the pictures (thousand words & that)

Thanks for reading.

G.

A 600W is good for a 3'x3' area, that's about the useable light footprint.

True SOG is usually 4 plants per sq/ft grown single cola style, clone to flower or 5-7 days veg max.

I get a 36 plant SOG in my 3x3, ebb/flow, 600W no worries

 

[andl]

50 were good start, go with the small pots first and then kick out all the weak ones, this is very valuable in a sog, you have to leave just THE BEST ONES inside nothing other.

plant the best 30 in about 3L pots after 7-10days vegging,

sort out the last weak ones (about 5+/-) withing first 10 days of 12/12

let the others about 25 flower

its strain dependent but indicas will work best, short, big headbud, nearly no branches.

enjoy


PS: the extra root space with 3L will get ya yield up! 20-30g per plant is sure possible.
if your are on soil i would prefer minimum of 3-5 days vegging

 

[growingold]

Exellent again,

Yeah mate Im with you on finding out whats what reguarding stretch,infact Ive got 5 strains in flower at the moment (week 7) as a stretch tester as i was going to scog but changed my mind to a sog.

Dutch passion Mazar flowered at 20" 3 weeks later was 38"

Killer skunk 10" 3 weeks later was 18"

killer skunk (2) 12" 3 weeks later was 20"

Uk cheese 19" 3 weeks later was 40"

So once these come down and dry Ill half the weight and size and that might give me some rough idea,pluss the cuts Ive took from them will need time to grow up a bit before I go taking clones from them. From my hazy memory when I done nft years ago I could get one oz colas with a weeks veg from my mazar,I know it grows a nice single cola aswell,not sure on the others tho,as i keep topping suppercropping them in veg.

Something else to chew on now..cheers mate!

G.

 

[growingold]

High country,

Cheers for your input & pictures mate,looks sweet as in there,good stuff indeed.

Altho my rooms 4x4 I dont think Ill pack them in wall to wall as I need room for my oscalating fans,so 3x3 would be 25x 1.4 on a tray with I spose another 11 around the edges..Hmmmmmmmmm! Sounds good buddy,what yield you getting with the 36 plants?

Thanks for the info..

andi

Hello there mate,cheers for dropping by,youve gave me something else to consider. 3.5 litre pots with a little more veg time.

Right Ive got a dessision to make now! watch this space folks I,ll document my efforts with the tips from you guys on this thread,Ive still got plants flowering at the mo,about 4 weeks time or so,should be good to go.

Thanks all.

G.

 

[Lazyman]

Andl makes a good point, significant numbers of "spares" is important, as is monocropping of course. I tried running a medium-scale SOG (8kw) with 280 plants, it was impossible to get 500 of anything, so the 280 ended up being 4-5 strains. What a pain. Tables were nowhere near full, I had some sativa hybrids in there, didn't veg long enough, blah blah blah. If I were to try again I'd use 1 gallon pots instead of 2, and would have at least 60-70 plants per table to start with.

LOL, i just realized in my new op that would require over 1000 clones, no thanks!

 

[gaiusmarius]

more plants equals more watering work even if its a bit less of a chore trimming. for a real easy maintenance setup, add some automatic drip irrigation.