Seaweed for rooting clones?

[BudZad7]

MAXICROP !!!

MAXICROP !!!

Hi All! This is so Awsome........Finally!!! All you have seen the
LIGHT!!!!!! I've been saying Maxicrop for years to all I've spoke to,emailed, blogs, posts, forums etc...etc...Started using Maxicrop in 1976......Have house plants that are 14+ years old and fed only with
You guessed it! MAXICROP LIQUID SEAWEED!!!!! Have you been to a
beach and noticed how all vegitation looks NICE!!! And the smell in the air is salt and seaweed........Nature is so wonderful!!! Well, Grape
fruit/Haze is a strain that takes forever to root,for clones,so soak
Rapidrooters is Maxicrop and use Clonex, and spray cuttings with Maxi-
crop, put in dome, and place under flouros 24hrs, usually takes 14 days
or longer, but with Maxicrop, it took 8 days Follow the label instructions for cuttings/seedlings.....see this pic:::

 

[GeorgeSmiley]

Hi All! This is so Awsome........Finally!!! All you have seen the
LIGHT!!!!!! I've been saying Maxicrop for years to all I've spoke to,emailed, blogs, posts, forums etc...etc...Started using Maxicrop in 1976......Have house plants that are 14+ years old and fed only with
You guessed it! MAXICROP LIQUID SEAWEED!!!!! Have you been to a
beach and noticed how all vegitation looks NICE!!! And the smell in the air is salt and seaweed........Nature is so wonderful!!! Well, Grape
fruit/Haze is a strain that takes forever to root,for clones,so soak
Rapidrooters is Maxicrop and use Clonex, and spray cuttings with Maxi-
crop, put in dome, and place under flouros 24hrs, usually takes 14 days
or longer, but with Maxicrop, it took 8 days.....see this pic:::

So what are the dilutions for you spray and feed with maxi crop?

thanks

smiley

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Maxicrop is processed using an alkaloid extraction method.

Deal killer for me.

 

[CT Guy]

CT Guy

Naomi of Naomi's Organic Garden Supply is the 'urban chicken raising' source for each and every article in the local media about raising chickens.

Check out her web site - she's really into it.

Another guy is Doug at NorthwestRedWorms.com down in Camas, WA who builds some really nice urban chicken coops.

In and around Portland, Oregon the urban garden and chicken thing is huge. Portland has a law allowing up to 3 chickens - no roosters though! LOL

Naomi has some good links for you to peruse and I think you'll find them interesting and helpful.

CC

CC,

You always have the best links! I wish I'd known about them sooner. I went ahead and got 5 chicks already and have them under an light in my bathroom. We have a law here too (my girlfriend is an attorney and looked it up) allowing only 3 hens, but I'm going to hide them behind a garden shed and my neighbor is cool with it. Here's my design, though I'm going to raise it off the ground.

I'll stop by the place in Portland for supplies next time I'm down there. I like supporting good local businesses that go beyond just being conventional feed stores!

Thanks,
CT

PS: I'll send you a PM if I have any other questions, so we don't annoy all the seaweed guys in this thread.

 

[Gascanastan]

Maxicrop is processed using an alkaloid extraction method.

Deal killer for me.

So why is alkalode extracton bad? It's still seaweed just ph balance it. that works

 

[Dignan]

PS: I'll send you a PM if I have any other questions, so we don't annoy all the seaweed guys in this thread.

This is MY thread and I say chicken farmers are welcome!

 

[Clackamas Coot]

LOL

 

[CT Guy]

So why is alkalode extracton bad? It's still seaweed just ph balance it. that works

All the studies I've read used cold water processed ascophyllum nodosum. From what I understand it preserves the properties of the seaweed to the highest degree. Haven't done a lot of research into the processing/extraction methodology though.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

CT Guy

The chicken lady (Naomi's Organic Farm Supply) is now carrying a line of products from Eco-Nutrients and specifically she's carrying their liquid kelp product as well as a fish hydrolysate product.

The liquid kelp is made from kelp harvested off the coasts of British Columbia, Washington, Oregon and Northern California. It is the Nereocystis Luetkeana variety and is known as 'Bull Kelp' and a slew of other names.

They'll send you a sample to test if you were so inclined.

Just another product that may work for some folks.

CC

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Another good book is Seaweed and Plant Growth by TL Senn. It's under $10 on amazon.com and has some great info. on seaweed.

CT Guy

I just ordered a used copy for $7.91 at Amazon - thanks for the tip!

CC

 

[vonforne]

V,

Why the honey? I thought people stayed away from it due to it's anti-microbial properties.

I look at it this way CT, read the ingredients on some of those products and then ask yourself what would be better?

And the little honey there is and for such a short period. I see no harm done but then again I could be wrong.

Seaweed works great in a glass of water. Sometimes I a lazy ad just leave them in the water.......like Grandma. LOL

V

 

[CT Guy]

CT Guy

The chicken lady (Naomi's Organic Farm Supply) is now carrying a line of products from Eco-Nutrients and specifically she's carrying their liquid kelp product as well as a fish hydrolysate product.

The liquid kelp is made from kelp harvested off the coasts of British Columbia, Washington, Oregon and Northern California. It is the Nereocystis Luetkeana variety and is known as 'Bull Kelp' and a slew of other names.

They'll send you a sample to test if you were so inclined.

Just another product that may work for some folks.

CC

CC,

Let me know what you think of the book when it arrives!

As for the bull kelp. I got some 2 years ago as a sample at the NW Flower and Garden Show. I decided to test it out, so I took a small amount 1-2 drops in a container with some compost, shook it up and waited. 24 hours later I had little microbial activity. I repeated it in a couple of samples with the same results. This is how MM taught me to test small amounts of compost or food sources. If I did the same thing with molasses (which I did that week as well), I got great fungal hyphae and bacterial and protozoa activity. Not saying anything conclusive, but I was disappointed with the results and never went back to it.

 

[tokinafaty420]

Hey all-

I recently cloned some grapevines to share with friends and since I had so many I ran an informal side-by-side experiment where 1/2 were soaked in water for 48 hours and then put into soil... the other 1/2 were soaked in a mild seaweed solution and then put into soil. The 1/2 that were soaked in seaweed all rooted several days before the 1/2 that were soaked in water.

For those of you who clone regularly, do you ever use seaweed, either as a soak or by foliar spraying your cuttings while they root?

*I'm not looking for everyone's various methods of cloning... we've been through all that enough times. Just wondering if anyone else has found accelerated rooting times with seaweed specifically.

Dig

No I haven't ever used a seaweed solution to clone with, but then again I never used just plain water either. You should try a side-by-side w/ your seaweed and a mid priced cloning gel or liquid. You know something many people would have access to and could afford.

I have been using Olivia's rooting gel and liquid now for the past 3-4 years. If I am using the liquid it gets diluted into water. The cuttings get cut from the mother and placed in the solution for 15 minutes they then get transplanted to a shallow bed of Seedling propagation soil. I'll see roots usually within 7-9 days from that method. The other method I use a bit more often is kind of the same as above but I cut them, dunk them in the rooting liquid for about 1 minute , cover the base of the stem with some rooting gel and then placed into premoistened rockwool plugs. I have about a 98% rooting rate. With the last method I will see roots coming from the rockwool within 7-14 days.

 

[guest2012y]

I just employed a new method.
Soak cuttings in a solution of silicone(1/4 teaspoon per gallon),then into the clone cab with a ultra mild silicone and seaweed extract wick water.

 

[tokinafaty420]

I just employed a new method.
Soak cuttings in a solution of silicone(1/4 teaspoon per gallon),then into the clone cab with a ultra mild silicone and seaweed extract wick water.

Why silicone?

I thought the stuff was meant as a yield enhancer and to help with harsh climate conditions....

 

[guest2012y]

Silicone helps build stronger cells. Stronger cells are more resistant to molds,pests,and it just makes for a stronger plant. Letting the cuts soak about 20 minutes in this solution gets that silicone up into the tissue of the plant....theoretically giving more success in rooting due to that silicone aiding in the tissue to prevent attack by molds when they are in that vulnerable "cutting" state. The seaweed wick water is just for the benefits it holds as far as rooting goes.

 

[tokinafaty420]

Silicone helps build stronger cells. Stronger cells are more resistant to molds,pests,and it just makes for a stronger plant. Letting the cuts soak about 20 minutes in this solution gets that silicone up into the tissue of the plant....theoretically giving more success in rooting due to that silicone aiding in the tissue to prevent attack by molds when they are in that vulnerable "cutting" state. The seaweed wick water is just for the benefits it holds as far as rooting goes.

Thanks for the quick answer. Gotcha, so its not necessarily added to root the cut, but rather protect it and give it a better chance.


I have used silica products in the past, just never for cloning. I'm a clean freak and my cloning space along with many other parts of the setup get a frequent scrubbing with a bleach solution to keep things sterile. I have never had any cuttings mold up in my trays.

 

[big ballin 88]

I think silica/silicone would be good to add as it helps deal with heat stress. I use seaweed as a soak now but have been thinking about getting a silica product like DG protekt for foliar. I wouldn't mind trying the silica out on cloning either it seems like it could be useful.

 

[treefrog]

I've always used maxi as a foliar for cuts in a bubble cloner after soaking the cuts in it (as per 10k's original "aerocloner" tutorial), instead of putting it in the rez. When originally playing with the cloner, that is what gave me the best results. I also tried honey and gels. City tap seems to work better than RO too for some odd reason.

Definitely going to try some of the recommended dried after the maxi runs out, which might take a couple years, lol.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

CC,

As for the bull kelp. I got some 2 years ago as a sample at the NW Flower and Garden Show. I decided to test it out, so I took a small amount 1-2 drops in a container with some compost, shook it up and waited. 24 hours later I had little microbial activity. I repeated it in a couple of samples with the same results. This is how MM taught me to test small amounts of compost or food sources. If I did the same thing with molasses (which I did that week as well), I got great fungal hyphae and bacterial and protozoa activity. Not saying anything conclusive, but I was disappointed with the results and never went back to it.

CT Guy

What interested me in this specific bull kelp product is the method they use to make their seaweed concentrate:

Process: We manually harvest the fronds of the kelp. We grind the kelp, add an enzyme, and put it into vats at room temperature, 55 to 60 degrees F. Two percent, water soluble, humic acid is added and the product is then allowed to break itself down, then it's sent through the 200 mesh Sweco screen.

Kelp hydrolysate perhaps?

LOL

CC