Seed Crop...Should I Still Flush At The End?

[DocLeaf]

To the health of the plant yes,, and the number of seeds produced yes maybe,, but the plant will still produce a % of healthy seeds once healthy pollen is introduced; this is what cannabis is predetermined to do... procreate and produce offspring.

Sensimilla farming is totally unnatural ,, and can't really be used in comparison,, cause it confuses things when we aim for floral production,, which is totally different,, if that makes sense.

Peace out
dL

 

[englishrick]

when we are growing for smoke, yeh, flush flush flush,,,,even bringing down the P/K levels in the 6th week is wickid for making a plant mature early,,, but im still left wondering if a seedplant will benifit from a different type of treatment,,,,

give the misses some pre natal vitamins or somethin doc,,,,,

 

[hoosierdaddy]

I have found...and this may just be my perception only...that seeds that have been heavily fertilized until the end often have a very tough skin. In that I mean that they seem to not want to pop open as well, and it appears that these sorts of seeds will often not be able to shuck the shell off their backs, which can lead to the seedlings demise.
Seems to me that seeds from a thoroughly flushed plant tend to be much easier to germinate, and seem to have a higher rate of survival. (shrug)

 

[Hal]

Great responses everybody, thank you very much! I maxed out my K giving so I'll have to hit the rest of ya up in a day or so.

I'm going with straight RO water from here on, not going to add any cal/mag either. The leaves are still pretty green and I only have 2 more weeks to go before harvesting.

I chopped one of the girls down about a week ago, she had been looking sickly due to a rather harsh attempt at some super-cropping to control her height, and I think when I watered her a bit too early that was the last straw and she died. She had only been in flower for about 2.5 weeks, so the seeds were not viable, but I did get an idea on the number of seeds I can expect from this go-round.

I clipped off about 2/3" of the top bud on one of the stalks and extracted the seeds to get a count. I got about 20 seeds from that little piece of bud. On my remaining plants I have approximately 22 stalks, and I'm betting that I will get at a minimum of 50 seeds per stalk, more likely 100, possibly even more. But just going with the conservative estimate of 50, I should end up with at least 1100 seeds of DJ's Flo.

Think I'll be able to find a nice momma or two from those?

 

[Pseudo]

i personly believe that hydro seeds are mutch larger in size when compared to organic seeds.....even calax dont grow "As large" when a clone is grown in soil,,,,,,i find soil allways makes small compact calax, i bet the soil grow seeds are generaly smaller too

rick, you may be right but for arguments sake i pollinated an outdoor sweet tooth 1.1 last year and the resulting seeds were HUGE, way larger than either parent, just thought id throw it out there, good luck hal

 

[Pseudo]

i posted before i read docs interesting info, couldve been envirormental, only way to tell is flush most of em and give one nutes till death and see if it makes a difference

 

[englishrick]

i agree,,,,it would be very cool to see an experiment ,,,,,

""""2 of the same female clones bare seed from the same farther,""",,,1 clone is over nuted 1 clone is under nuted,,,,,it would be facinating to see the difference!!!

 

[DocLeaf]

The phenotypic variation between different environments (gardens) over plant matter (genotype) will also effect the seed size and seed yield from exactly the same parental stock.

You can nurture nature, but you can neither nature or nurture the inertia ; plant genetics are predetermined in this sense... what you see isn't always what you get!

Hope this helps

 

[Godless]

Cut n paste from a DJ Short article:

"A quick word about the virtues of hermaphrodites: Ask any old-time herbalist, one who has been experiencing fine herb since at least the early 1970's, what their favorite all-time herbal variety was, and the answer will be something to the effect of; ?Santa Marta or Acapulco Gold? or ?Highland or Chocolate Thai? or ?Punta Roya (red-tipped gold Highland Oaxacan)? or ?Guerran Green? or ?Panama Red? etc. et. al., all of which were equatorial, or sub-tropical, origin sativa and hermaphroditic. Even the great hashish of the era such as Lebanese Red and Blonde, all Moroccan and Nepalese were produced from seeded stock.

This is not so much in praise of the hermaphrodite as it is a suggestion in regard to the cannabinoid profile of seeded verses non-seeded herb. It has been my experience that the cannabinoid profile of seeded herb produces a wider range of effect than from non-seeded, or sinsimilla, herb. The equatorial environment also probably contributed to a wider range of cannabinoids. One of the aspects of the equatorial environment is its consistent day/night temperature range, there is little difference between day and night temps on the equator supposedly inspiring a wider cannabinoid profile. Couple this with the seeded cannabinoid profile and it becomes easy to understand the popularity of the equatorial produced sativa, despite its hermaphroditic problems. I am curios as to what future research in this capacity may provide."