Coconot: Anyone tried this yet?
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jackiee
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hey we all use coco one way or another, and i think we are all here to help each other get the best from our plants. now wether we agree or disagree on other peoples way of growing its irrelevant, so lets just grow and read the threads pick out what we believe to be relevant and try to be civil with each other,if there`s anything you dont like dont try it stay lucky everybody
Except *mistress*, who seems to take peculiar joy in giving fatally bad info. Repeatedly.
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apparently, your word is sh*t, Nite Tiger...
went back & deleted posts...
after had agreed that this was not thread for discussion about anything other than coconot...
& still your b*tch ass runs off @ the mouth...
just like a ho...
why not just start a "*mistress* hater" thread?
get off *mistress*'s cl*t...
go hang out w/ your woman. too much energy invested in bugging this dom-goddess... not interested - cant keep your word...
find some other member to troll - b*tch... whose word aint sheeit...
just keep it gardening related & all is...
otherwise, brings out ugliness in nice garden girl...
enjoy your garden!
apparently, your word is sh*t, Nite Tiger...
went back & deleted posts...
after had agreed that this was not thread for discussion about anything other than coconot...
& still your b*tch ass runs off @ the mouth...
just like a ho...
why not just start a "*mistress* hater" thread?
get off *mistress*'s cl*t...
go hang out w/ your woman. too much energy invested in bugging this dom-goddess... not interested - cant keep your word...
find some other member to troll - b*tch... whose word aint sheeit...
just keep it gardening related & all is
otherwise, brings out ugliness in nice garden girl
enjoy your garden!
I apologized for taking the thread off track, but I never said I wouldn't say anything else about it. So, once again, you just can't quite seem to get it quite right.
Also, you seem to misunderstand my motives. I don't put my energy into bugging you. I put it into helping other people grow healthy gardens. Making sure they know your posts are like dumping bleach in their rez is part and parcel to that. Can't think of anything more 'garden related'.
The fact that it's pissing you off is just a bonus.
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dongle69
Trolling aside, how 'bout that coconot???
i have an og raskal purplebublegum i put in flower, in coconot. its in my signature with purplebubblegum. she not really liking it......
WOW! I was pretty excited when I got linked to this thread about CocoNot since I was just given a bag. But FUCK ME! This thread is all about Mistress telling folks to not water coco every day and that if you do it's over watering?!!! My goodness guys it's obvious she don't know shit about coco if she's saying that so why engage in bullshit with her and take this thread off track? 3 pages of this shit!
SO HOW ABOUT THAT COCO NOT?
Seems like it would be pretty cool mixed with the VermiBlend what do you all think?
SO HOW ABOUT THAT COCO NOT?
Seems like it would be pretty cool mixed with the VermiBlend what do you all think?
Well always one to put my head over the parapet, I may as well throw my $0.02 in,
I water every day in coco, I do so not because they need it but rather I re-use coco and if I only water a couple of times a week I find the coco gets a bit funky, smells like that slime at the bottom of a pond or swamp and I want to be certain I am salt free for the next grow. However I have grown hundreds of plants in 6.5 lt pots, 50" inch tall and watered every 3 days, it is all some strains need and coco holds so much more water than people imagine. If you ever tried to kill a plant ( I grow some 100% Sativas that will only finish fully if you murder them) you would see just how long a plant can go on without water, in coco! You can rip into me as I sadly just witnessed or you can go and try for yourself/ debate it calmly?, but anyone who says you need water coco daily never tried any other way, and worse if a plant did die after missing just 1 watering I too would say there is something radically wrong, if not with the genetics then with the set-up, ie temps @ +40° C, lamps 1/2 an inch from plants, that sort of thing!
Anyone prepared to do a straight side by side will be amazed at the growth rate in the 'unwatered' side, the air to water ratio gets better and better reaching something like Aeroponics rates for some of the time, this is something daily watering simply can't match.
Fire away
I water every day in coco, I do so not because they need it but rather I re-use coco and if I only water a couple of times a week I find the coco gets a bit funky, smells like that slime at the bottom of a pond or swamp and I want to be certain I am salt free for the next grow. However I have grown hundreds of plants in 6.5 lt pots, 50" inch tall and watered every 3 days, it is all some strains need and coco holds so much more water than people imagine. If you ever tried to kill a plant ( I grow some 100% Sativas that will only finish fully if you murder them) you would see just how long a plant can go on without water, in coco! You can rip into me as I sadly just witnessed or you can go and try for yourself/ debate it calmly?, but anyone who says you need water coco daily never tried any other way, and worse if a plant did die after missing just 1 watering I too would say there is something radically wrong, if not with the genetics then with the set-up, ie temps @ +40° C, lamps 1/2 an inch from plants, that sort of thing!
Anyone prepared to do a straight side by side will be amazed at the growth rate in the 'unwatered' side, the air to water ratio gets better and better reaching something like Aeroponics rates for some of the time, this is something daily watering simply can't match.
Fire away
Well I'll chime in cuz my last grow I was lazy and did exactly that! Let them go a day or 2 with out water in a 50/50 coco/perlite mix and this time I've watered 2-3 times a day and my growth exploded on me! WAY faster than the last grow watering like soil, yes there is no doubt coco holds water VERY well and is why a lot of soil mixes are now using coco coir and peat moss. But coco can't be overwatered! When I saw Mistress say that I was blown away!!! My bag of Ready Gro Moisture Formula is made for 1 watering daily but I do 2-3 and it also says that the pots can sit in 2-3" of water with out getting water logged! YOU CAN'T OVER WATER COCO!! You folks talking "but it's more oxygen when you let it dry out" WRONG!!! Go read through the coco forums when you water coco properly with 10-15% runoff you push all the stagnant air out of the medium bringing in fresh oxygen and fresh nutrients and the growth takes off. I say this from personal experience with soil and coco...
I don't want to get into a row about *mistress* Thund, I can't disagree with the way you go, as I said I water every day!, but it is not because they need it, I would perhaps argue one point, if you sit a pot in 3" of water indefinitely you will water-log that portion and an inch above, I took this from Canna.com, they recommend the longest you stand a pot in liquid is 15 minutes if you allowed a pot to really dry out, after 15 mins allow to drain as usual, it is very hard to over water ime but not impossible.
I can understand you also having explosive growth with multi waterings, I too have had this but conversely I have plants that will only be truly happy and 'praying' to show it, when given less waterings. I don't believe there is a right or wrong here, I posted because you can get away with less waterings, I would put my house on it!
Edit, Oh hey I am not nit-picking but I just noticed you said 50/50, perlite/coco, that really is a different kettle of fish Thund you lil monkey
I can understand you also having explosive growth with multi waterings, I too have had this but conversely I have plants that will only be truly happy and 'praying' to show it, when given less waterings. I don't believe there is a right or wrong here, I posted because you can get away with less waterings, I would put my house on it!
Edit, Oh hey I am not nit-picking but I just noticed you said 50/50, perlite/coco, that really is a different kettle of fish Thund you lil monkey
Ok maybe I was wrong about a 50/50 mix it was more a 2:1 ratio coco/perlite what I did was too a empty coco bag and then I use a party cup to scoop and I do 2 cups of coco for 1 cup of perlite.. But I don't like mixing so I just go with Ready Gro but I'm about to try Roots Organics again since I hear they fixed the Coco Fiber problem they had which fucked my garden up!
but anyone who says you need water coco daily never tried any other way, and worse if a plant did die after missing just 1 watering I too would say there is something radically wrong, if not with the genetics then with the set-up, ie temps @ +40° C, lamps 1/2 an inch from plants, that sort of thing!
Fire away
there must be something radical wrong with all my grows then! because if i dont water every day, there dead! pots completely dry, plants wilted, dead! and i dont have high temps, plants an inch from the bulb or anything like that.
when plants grow very quickly and have huge buds, they require a shitload of water. if they are drinking very fast, there growing very fast.
just like i told mistress, you can say there is something wrong with a garden just because you have to water every day. but i have more then proved that is not true in many documented grows.......
I agree with Krunch cuz I wanted to save on nutes a bit and tried to cut back to 1 watering a day in week 6 and they pots were dry by morning I mean they were not wilted but would've been in a few hours.
Hi Krunch, thankyou firstly for being polite if we don't agree, I understand some of you guys have problems with *m* and she in return but I have no problem with her and so would like to just debate this because I am honestly perplexed.
I do believe every word you say, btw what size pots?, but I have never seen a pot dry out in 24 hours and a plant to wilt so far it won't recover in the same period. I have been involved in growing over 2 decades and been using coco from 92 or 93 I don't recall, anyway I am still learning and always happy to be shown another way, but in the same way you are certain of your facts, so am I. Perhaps when I said something wrong I might have said "something dead right" and you have your grow dialled in to the endth degree
which is great for maximising your set-up but so finely tuned miss one watering and you're f***ed I just don't know brother as with most grow things we have each our way, actually as I said I do water every day myself but have experience of the other and in my case worked very well, nothing I am saying here is against any post I made in 8 months here, do post the pot size if you can Krunch, not to argue but for my education, thank-you again, and to Thund too.
Mine were in 3 liter Air Pots and 2.5 liter regular pots
i use 2 and 3 gallon pots. the bigger pots i use take watering every other day. but, i must say that i do not water till i have lots of runoff. i try for very little runoff, plants seem to grow and yield much more in a moist coco, instead of a damp coco in my experiences. either 100% cana or gold label coco
Thanks K', so good sized pots then, that rules out my other thought.
I guess we will just agree to disagree at least on this, but I did give it some more thought, I could see how one grower with very short time vegging in final pot would not have the rootball capable of drying a pot in 24hrs, a long veg / large rootball would be a different story and coupled with 'x amount' daily as opposed to 'until run-off' daily would be getting somewhere close to your set up, now your's seems more feasible by the minute but!, it also goes some-way to explain how some can indeed last a few days without watering, small rootball, more coco/water to keep it going, the opposite of yours!.
I guess we will just agree to disagree at least on this, but I did give it some more thought, I could see how one grower with very short time vegging in final pot would not have the rootball capable of drying a pot in 24hrs, a long veg / large rootball would be a different story and coupled with 'x amount' daily as opposed to 'until run-off' daily would be getting somewhere close to your set up, now your's seems more feasible by the minute
but!, it also goes some-way to explain how some can indeed last a few days without watering, small rootball, more coco/water to keep it going, the opposite of yours!.
