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22 days after planting bag seeds

h2osho

New member
Well if you can be newer than new...that's me. I'm learning as I grow. These are my 3 seedlings I planted from some decent bag seeds I pulled off a bud. I put them in dirt on 3/7/10 and they're now 28 days old.

Thanks to FreezerBoy I followed the instructions to save my overly long stemmed seedlings and I'm feelin' better about the plants now.

One of them looks great, the other two not bad. It seems like since I've replanted them they've slowed their growth a bit.

I run 24/7 -- Dual 24" T5 about 18" above.
I ONLY give them RO water with some nutes mixed in.

How do you keep from DOING TOO MUCH? I feel like I want to "do this" or "do that" or "water or feed or light or fan"!!!

If these things can survive in the wild without man intervention I guess the "less I do the better"??

Sitting around and watching plants grow without doing something to them everyday....arghhh. I think I'm going to read or sing to them now!

I have ZERO idea what a new seedling would look like after 22 days so any input would be helpful. Thanks!
 

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kannubis

You must learn to ignore the urge to fukkemup. Lose the force Luke.
Your t5 should be less than 4 inches from the tops.
 

dest

Member
The bending of your leaves, that's a sign of over-watering. Letting the soil dry out between watering is crucial for seedlings to grow properly.
 

facelift

This is the money you could be saving if you grow
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I think they need more light. Those look only slightly bigger than the seeds that just popped 2 days ago. My plants would be ready to flower at day 22. Have 3-4 nodes and be 16-18 inches tall. Check out the pic in the "fan on seedling thread" below. Those plants are only a week old. Sorry....

Lowering the lights may help give the tiny ones more light. You might need to get a more intense light source. I don't know FL Tubes, of CFL bulbs.
 

h2osho

New member
Ok I'm 100% sure that my three new seedlings are waterlogged. One is going to be ok, they other so-so and the last, looking major droopy.

With that being said....can I simply prepare a new pot with fresh soil and transplant my wet babies?
 

PuReKnOwLeDgE

Licensed Grower
ICMag Donor
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Check it out man :)

Love kills more noob seedlings then anything else, so before over reacting to any conditions remeber to read read and read some more to make sure you are making the correct choice.

The reason the growth has slowed is the roots are growing out into the new medium, the plant is cocentrating on root growth, it knows it has a new home. Once they "grab ass" they will begin growing again and at a faster rate then experienced in the old pot with smaller roots.

The reason they may be over watered is they are in a new pot and their root system is not suffcient to remove the extra water form the pot.

A trick with transplanting and especially seedlings is let them completely dry out in between waterings, this causes the roots to "have to" search for water thus spreading roots around the pot at a faster rate, meaning you you get your roots established faster and you get back to growing the plant faster.

Get familair with watering by looking at the soil and feeling the weight of the pot.

DON'T overlove them, don't overthink it, ask for help here, get familiar with the site and its search functions. This is a one stop shop with experts, hobbyist, and professionals from all over the world.

Most of all read for like the next three years and then cut it down to a couple hours a day, prepare to be consumed! Good luck


P.S. to cure the waterlog, I would either get them some plcae warm, like on a heta mat or something. Have a dehumidfier? If not and you plan on growing consistent good medicine you will end up needing one anyways. Enviorment first everything else comes after. A dehumidifier will dry those pots up to a respectable range in 24-48 hours. Don't repot, the heavy weighted soil will tear your roots and further stunt growth.

Glad to see more michigan people come out of the woodwork, welcome to International Cannagraphic University
 

hempluvr

plant pimp
Veteran
U need to move ur lights closer and leave them be. You cannot transplant seedlings over and over and expect great results. Let them be. Provided ur using good soil your dirt should have enough nutes in it that the seedlings don't have to be fed at all for the first few weeks. Take your time and learn a little thing called patience when it comes to your babies. There is nothing u can do to speed up the plants life cycle.
I am the most impatient person in the world but when it comes to these I have to let them be. I hope I was able to help u. Keep it green and safe.
 

asstastic

Member
trans planting dose not cause stress unless you hert the roots or stem or leave out to long
you should plant seeds in pure perlite seeds dont like water at all
so get some perlite and mix with the soil you have then put back in the pot and the water on the roots will susstain them 1-3 days but youll have to just geuss cuz the new soil is dry but roots are not youll be fine but your soil is to tight so lossen it up and youll be fine if you dont do that your plants will die or not grow but an inch a month instead of an inch a day like mine and your lights fine as long as your getting side branches and i just used a 27w cfl to veg my last ones so 99% its not the light but the soil
and about the trying not to do to much just do research all day then only apply once fully understood
i dont know if this is indoor or out but i have suggestions on ignoring your mj either way so ya still need help give a shout ill hear ya
 

hempluvr

plant pimp
Veteran
trans planting dose not cause stress unless you hert the roots or stem or leave out to long
you should plant seeds in pure perlite seeds dont like water at all
so get some perlite and mix with the soil you have then put back in the pot and the water on the roots will susstain them 1-3 days but youll have to just geuss cuz the new soil is dry but roots are not youll be fine but your soil is to tight so lossen it up and youll be fine if you dont do that your plants will die or not grow but an inch a month instead of an inch a day like mine and your lights fine as long as your getting side branches and i just used a 27w cfl to veg my last ones so 99% its not the light but the soil
and about the trying not to do to much just do research all day then only apply once fully understood
i dont know if this is indoor or out but i have suggestions on ignoring your mj either way so ya still need help give a shout ill hear ya

I beg to differ and agree with PK...transplanting does cause stress. A seedling cannot and will not grow a big strong root system if constantly transplanted. They need time to grow and be left alone. Especially during the seedling stage. Things are very fragile during this time period. Though growth above ground is slow the growth below is not. My seedlings go into plastic cups and are never transplanted unless it`s time for a bigger pot or there is a problem.
 

asstastic

Member
the only way it would stress is if you continuisly transplant like never stop i have two seeds two weeks old and one has been trans planted atleast 10 times i keep dropping it and you can not tell them apart besides pot color you are assuming im baseing this off fact and expieramentation seedlings are naturaly sowed in the leaves mj disgards not soil so untill your plant looks like bark it would be suspended above the soil if the area the roots are in are dark and slightly damp the plant will grow
so why do you belive transplanting causes stress please support your findings
 

Orygun

Member
the only way it would stress is if you continuisly transplant like never stop i have two seeds two weeks old and one has been trans planted atleast 10 times i keep dropping it and you can not tell them apart besides pot color you are assuming im baseing this off fact and expieramentation seedlings are naturaly sowed in the leaves mj disgards not soil so untill your plant looks like bark it would be suspended above the soil if the area the roots are in are dark and slightly damp the plant will grow
so why do you belive transplanting causes stress please support your findings

You might not believe us and thats fine, but transplanting really does cause stress. So you should only do it when necessary so for me thats two to four times depending on whether the plant is from seed or clone.
 

asstastic

Member
You might not believe us and thats fine, but transplanting really does cause stress. So you should only do it when necessary so for me thats two to four times depending on whether the plant is from seed or clone.
i geuse ill keep the knowledge for someone who wants to learn im not incurageing you transplant to help but when done right no stress is causedand the plant will grow without varience from non transplanted
 

flyer

Member
from what i heard, transplanting do cause the plant to be shock for a few days.
they need time to heal and get use to the new home
but after 3 days or so, you will see changes again.. and they will grow bigger
thats why i usually add vitamin b1 in it after i transplant
anyone else add vita to your babies?
 

hempluvr

plant pimp
Veteran
the only way it would stress is if you continuisly transplant like never stop i have two seeds two weeks old and one has been trans planted atleast 10 times i keep dropping it and you can not tell them apart besides pot color you are assuming im baseing this off fact and expieramentation seedlings are naturaly sowed in the leaves mj disgards not soil so untill your plant looks like bark it would be suspended above the soil if the area the roots are in are dark and slightly damp the plant will grow
so why do you belive transplanting causes stress please support your findings

I suppose your going to tell us cloning is not stressful to the plant either? Come on,get your facts str8 before you start handing out advice. You have 2 seedlings and 1 has been transplanted at least 10 times due to your faultiness and you think no stress is being caused at all? I bet you your plants would be alot farther along if you LEFT THEM ALONE and acted like you gave a fuck. How do u drop a plant that many times? Do your plants a favor and leave them be. I have 20+seedlings right now,all of which are in superb shape and will not be transplanted until needed. You ever transplant a seedling into a bigger pot and watch the amount of time it takes the plant to recover from the move? It takes a few days to a week at least. Some strains differ in time but all strains do receive stress when transplanting. You are taking the plant out of the deep,dark moist environment it is used to being in and exposing the roots to cold air and light..2 things roots don`t like. Then your taking the plant and putting it in a new pot,with new soil in a new environment...which is surely different then the last one. The plant then needs to settle into it`s new home. Why does it take a week or so....THE PLANT IS STRESSED and trying to figure out what just happened....




read a book
 

asstastic

Member
cloning causes stress cause it takes from the plants reserves my seeds are growing as fast as mj can possibly can and one has been repetedly droped cuz i got shakey hands asshole but its still as healthy as can be if you know what your doing trans planting wont do anything but help any stress incounterd is humen error
and this was originaly found in a cannabis book and ive adopted it and never looked back you guys that disagree are entittled to your opinion but before you suggest i do research why dont you seing as you are only passing on heresay
in hydro the roots are constantly being recirculated(transplanted) from there mediem(h2o) and thay grow better
hmm very contradictory
try writing a book
and plants love fresh air hints airaition
 

mrgrowmez

Member
I think the thing to remember here is, don't transplant unnecessarily. When transplanting, think about what you are doing before you do it so you don't strees your plants any more than is expected.

Do not grow your seeds in only perlite....please.

To the OP, move your light as close as you can without burning them, if its a fluro you should be able to get that sucker real close....just get a fan blowing on the top of your plant/just under light to dissipate the heat.

oh yeah and don't stress too much! it going to be ok
 

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