Smaller pots = reduced height?

[Chronic777]

If i was to grow a sativa in smaller pots would that stunt the height?

Would the loss in yeild make it not worth it, and better to top & train it in a bigger pot?

Im gonna grow super lemon haze, but only got 1 metre between the top of soil & the lights

 

[kannubis]

Alot depends on the medium, the strain, the nute regimen, the lighting, and a whole bunch of other things too.
I had a OHaze x Sk1 in a 1 gallon bag that got 6 feet tall in a month, but she had no budsites lower than 4 feet because I put her in too far from the light and nuted like the hybrids in with her.
I have seen others here that were done perfectly though. Still working on my game.
Best of luck and yes train em in big or small pots.

 

[smokeymacpot]

a pure sativa even in a small pot just grows upwards and onwards and stupidly fast and with hardly any nodes, say after 2weeks of 18/6 they are maybe 20cm tall, give them 12/12 and after 2weeks they are 50cm tall, they probably wont show any sign of flower another 2 weeks 100cm tall and maybe you can see some female preflowers... can you see where this is going.... ???
your best method to control the height is by training it. when it grows up... tie it down and you will do that over and over and over. if its your only plant then do a scrog, it will be FARFARFAR EASIER to train and control height and give your best yeild possible.

there is a thread about landrace sativas and pictures of what they grow like. i dont know how sativa your strain is, so search for grow diaries of it on here that show pictures from start to end.

 

[Chronic777]

Im keeping an eye on someone on here doing a scrog with super lemon haze....

I recently bought a scrog screen that fits my tent, im just not sure about technique, i presume i lower the screen on the top of the plant when it starts to flower, then keep being the branches back down & tying them to the screen?

I was kinda hoping i could just top it & that would keep it low.. super lemon haze def has indicia influence but obviosuly depends on the pheno etc....

 

[geopolitical]

Nope. You're less likely to be root bound in a bigger pot, and healthier roots will tend to produce a more vigorous (and potentially taller) plant, but if your plant is doing great in the smaller pot it's doubtful it'll be constrained height wise by it.

You've got basically how scrog works, yes. You ideally want to train the plant a little bit before starting bloom & using the screen however to make it an easier process. I used to always prune off lower branches that I didn't think would make the screen and I would tend to thin out some of the central growth that would crowd one area. There are as many ways to train a plant for scrog as their are types of scrog screens.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=162411&highlight=scrog
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=162070&highlight=scrog

Personally, I just tend to either supercrop, or tie down individual branches if needed to keep the canopy even, with the heavy sativas I don't even do that, I just bend over anything that's going to hit a light eventually. Scrog is great, but I don't need to worry about yield so much these days and I'm deeply deeply laz. . .efficient. I am deeply efficient.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=25687&highlight=supercrop


hope that helps ya

 

[Chronic777]

Thanks for all that, i think im starting to understand the scrog method, but as i tie down and train along the screen, does this mean when you have 3/4 plants under one screen, when you look under the screen the branches are all criss crossing going in different directions right? The main thing is keeping buds at screen level by tying them down, no matter how far they stray from the original pot?

Im just thinking a plant that starts on the left side of the tent is gonna be budding on the other side of the tent after tying it down a few times?

 

[geopolitical]

Yup. You can end up with something that literally looks like a badly woven basket at harvest with some of the plants that have a ton of stretch in them.

You can really get some amazing screen fills. The big trick to scrog is knowing your plants response to 12/12 so knowing how big a plant you need to have at the beginning of 12/12 to fully utilize a screen without being too crowded.

 

[Chronic777]

Im only planning to veg for 3-4 weeks as i need to squeeze this grow in before summer heats up, with 3/4 weeks veg i don't think my screen is gonna get too overcrowded, im only gonna do a couple full plants & another three main colas squeezed in with all side branches cut off, assuming all my 5 seeds are females!

Its gonna be a fun journey for sure... cant wait to take my tent down & rebuild with the screen in there...

 

[geopolitical]

Good luck!

 

[ralph]

A root bound plant will tend to stretch and grow spindly. Balance out your NPK levels to 1-1-1 and you will grow a more compact, squat plant. Pruning and tieing down the shoots will give you a broader and more even canopy.

 

[dilligaf]

If i was to grow a sativa in smaller pots would that stunt the height?

Would the loss in yeild make it not worth it, and better to top & train it in a bigger pot?

Im gonna grow super lemon haze, but only got 1 metre between the top of soil & the lights

A smaller pot won't slow upward growth. Scrog is a great way to keep those sativas shorter or you could use Bush Master to stop upward growth in it tracks when the plant gets as tall as you wish it to be.

 

[BirdManFlyHigh]

no. your going to have to train it or top it a few times

 

[Godless]

For a truly stretchy sativa like a Kali Mist (don't know SLH), I have found that the easiest way to keep em from stretching is for a freshly rooted clone to spend the first four weeks of 12/12 under a MH light.

I did back to back runs - 1st with a 600w HPS, 2nd with a 400w MH and the difference in stretch was HUGE! The 1st run was literally 2.5x the height of the 2nd run - I had to super crop the 1st run like crazy, but the 2nd didn't fill in the vertical screen like I had anticipated. The only other difference between my two runs was the lighting and that the 2nd run has bigger pots!!
The bigger rootspace is probably is why the buds on the 2nd run are already swollen past the 1st run's size and I still have a month left.

If you don't have access to a MH light, then I'd recommend the scrog that others have suggested - I found super cropping to be too hard to get the exact results i want. It might have gone better if I was doing it more proactively than reactively.

I have seen really good results with LST in this situation, but this requires a lot more up front time IMHO and scrogging is pretty easy even for a newb. I do think it takes a couple runs with a given strain to maximize your scrog fill in and really dial in the efficiency of the yield, but it is really easy to get a decent first run.

 

[one Q]

just my exp and opinion

grow in coir and do what ever you want. 1liter bottles of coir have yeilded up to 20g and 26" tall if done right.

Ive also seen Beer cups of coir with HUGE plants in them.

Moms have been in 30oz cups and loved for a while.

 

[Matanuskan Flo]

yea, small pots are great i think. long as they are small & tall. like a top cut off of a Bolthouse Carrot Juice or large Odwalla container. those tall 4 inch containers have yielded some beasts for me. i find that keeping the lights extra close is what causes smaller leaves & a more compact plant. with proper feeding, you should be fine with a small pot. its more work or watering, but can be really efficient use of space & maximize yield if optimized or done moderately well, even. gl

 

[Coco4Coco]

I use 5 1/2" sq pots that are about 1/2 gal.
I use Coco / Perelite 50/50
In a Botanicare 4x8 Flood Tray...
I flood 3 times a day for 15 minutes...
With my ceiling height I can only veg for 7 to 8 days
then flip to 12/12 and end up with plants 4 ft tall or taller...
Using this kind of system I have read of others here who have
reduced from larger pots to this size with great yields...
and it is working for me...

 

[rooted]

some strains are sensitive to pinched toes (being rootbound) more so with sativas

it will likely cause more stretch/stress growing a long flowering sativa in a small pot, especially if you're growing in soil

coco is a different beast, because it resists compaction, the plant can pack much more root mass in the same area. this doesn't mean your plant is completely exempt from pot size rules; however, if you increase the frequency of your feedings you can get great results in a smaller pot.

 

[boroboro]

From the One Pound, One Plant thread -- how about One Pound, One Plant, One Foot Tall?

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2300948&postcount=69