Ive decided Im going to be pissed when pots legalized..

[Speedcat]

Because I will be like 95 years old and never get to enjoy growing it without being paranoid. the next generation will get to enjoy growing it without worrying about going to jail while Ill be an old man who wont even be able to smoke weed due to a heart condition most likely lol. Little shits in the next gen will be growing it in their back yard.... Im so fuckign paranoid about growing, probley like 50% of the people on here you think while your at work, What if some one found out, what if I come home and the fuckign DEA is in my house ect, makes me fuckign paranoid, and especialy during late flower Im a nervouse wreck just wanting it to get chopped down and dried lol.

 

[stc9357]

Fuck the gov. do what you feel is right and be man enough to take the consequences when shit goes wrong.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

so yea its pretty much accepted that pot WONT be legalized under Obamas watch huh?

bad for everyone in general, but everyone in the underground is cheering right now, garuntees profits for years to come...

 

[Gdood9]

Fuck the gov. do what you feel is right and be man enough to take the consequences when shit goes wrong.

I agree fuck the government.

Fuck the consequences though. You ever been busted? Obviously not. And I'm talking about a big bust, not some..oooo, I had 3 plants growing. Try a hundred plants or anything over 5-10 pounds. Think about being a normal person trying to make a living, not some fucking cartel out to cause problems. The consequences shouldn't even be there. It's unjust. Think about a friend that might have been the friendly pot dealer or the friendly guy growing that got busted. The shit you have to go through for this plant is ridiculous. How about you go spend 5-10 years of your life in a cell for weed and see how much you like it. This isn't about being man enough, it's about people oppressing and profiteering off you for what is right and shouldn't be illegal. Fuck the consequences.

 

[CaptainTrips]

You sound too fucking paranoid to be growing... probably haven't been growing long.

 

[habeeb]

what fun is something when it's legal?

how fun is something when it's "against the law" ?

 

[CaptainTrips]

I agree fuck the government.

Fuck the consequences though. You ever been busted? Obviously not. And I'm talking about a big bust, not some..oooo, I had 3 plants growing. Try a hundred plants or anything over 5-10 pounds. Think about being a normal person trying to make a living, not some fucking cartel out to cause problems. The consequences shouldn't even be there. It's unjust. Think about a friend that might have been the friendly pot dealer or the friendly guy growing that got busted. The shit you have to go through for this plant is ridiculous. How about you go spend 5-10 years of your life in a cell for weed and see how much you like it. This isn't about being man enough, it's about people oppressing and profiteering off you for what is right and shouldn't be illegal. Fuck the consequences.

Without consequences, most likely there would be no money for guys like that.

 

[stc9357]

I agree fuck the government.

Fuck the consequences though. You ever been busted? Obviously not. And I'm talking about a big bust, not some..oooo, I had 3 plants growing. Try a hundred plants or anything over 5-10 pounds. Think about being a normal person trying to make a living, not some fucking cartel out to cause problems. The consequences shouldn't even be there. It's unjust. Think about a friend that might have been the friendly pot dealer or the friendly guy growing that got busted. The shit you have to go through for this plant is ridiculous. How about you go spend 5-10 years of your life in a cell for weed and see how much you like it. This isn't about being man enough, it's about people oppressing and profiteering off you for what is right and shouldn't be illegal. Fuck the consequences.

Never sad fuck the consequences and I have two felonies pending one for pot another not so I understand the fear at the back of the mind thing. I'm facing it but I rarely even think about it's nothing I can change. Whether you like it or not the law is interpreted in black or white, there is no gray area even though that's where I constantly live my life.

 

[Gdood9]

Without consequences, most likely there would be no money for guys like that.

Good. You think that I won't be affected by legalization? I'm a vendor in a MMJ state. My profits are gonna go right out the window. Oh well, guess that means I'm just gonna have to start using my recording studio to make money. On that note, I'd just like to say, FUCK MONEY. I'm aiming for self-sustainability. Get enough stupid money to buy some land, build a house, dig a well, grow my crops and be good to the land. That's all I need...ooo and some weed, but that's easily grown.

I've been there, done the busted thing. It sucks. I don't have any violent crimes...shit, I don't have any other "crimes" on my record except weed. I'm not affiliated to any gangs, cartels, or "evil" people. I hate seeing my fellow cannabis loving brethren being locked up for selling, growing, or possessing weed. I can understand the need to go after people promoting violence and killing innocent people, but what about peace-loving people that just want to share the herb with everyone else.

I also am going to say that there should be profits and income generated by cannabis. Just not to the extent of what it cost today. In a regulated market, cannabis would be like any other product. Taxable and profitable. There's nothing wrong with that...except the US government wouldn't be making money from all the jobs, seized property, grants and prisoners produced from the drug wars, which should be called the "War on Cannabis".

 

[Hal]

If you keep your grow personal in size, take sensible precautions with odor control etc, and don't have prior convictions, you should be ok. First time conviction for a small grow in most states you will likely get a slap on the wrist. Hopefully you don't live in one of the states that still has draconian pot laws...in that case, maybe you should move to a state with more progressive laws.

 

[Gdood9]

Never sad fuck the consequences and I have two felonies pending one for pot another not so I understand the fear at the back of the mind thing. I'm facing it but I rarely even think about it's nothing I can change. Whether you like it or not the law is interpreted in black or white, there is no gray area even though that's where I constantly live my life.

That sucks that you are going through the unjust legal system we call the US justice system. I feel your pain, I've had federal and state felony charges racked up against me before. I know that it's only black or white in some areas, I got busted in one of the worst places to get busted, but I said fuck them, and fuck their charges. You see me typing today, don't you?

 

[Yes4Prop215]

I agree fuck the government.

Fuck the consequences though. You ever been busted? Obviously not. And I'm talking about a big bust, not some..oooo, I had 3 plants growing. Try a hundred plants or anything over 5-10 pounds. Think about being a normal person trying to make a living, not some fucking cartel out to cause problems. The consequences shouldn't even be there. It's unjust. Think about a friend that might have been the friendly pot dealer or the friendly guy growing that got busted. The shit you have to go through for this plant is ridiculous. How about you go spend 5-10 years of your life in a cell for weed and see how much you like it. This isn't about being man enough, it's about people oppressing and profiteering off you for what is right and shouldn't be illegal. Fuck the consequences.

dude first off...5-10 pounds will STILL be illegal even if its legalized.

if you are moving 5-10 lbs you are a trafficker, your breaking a shit load of laws including not paying taxes.

I aint hating on those moving 5packs, shit i did 23 last month and most of my people do the same..

The reason people can even make money off moving packs is because its illegal.

yea its sad that people are still going to jail, but its kinda unreasonable for them to decriminlize trafficking.

all legal bills still make trafficking illegal, which makes this whole debate really hard, because Medical Marijuana has to be grown and trafficcked before it hits the clubs...

 

[Gdood9]

dude first off...5-10 pounds will STILL be illegal even if its legalized.

if you are moving 5-10 lbs you are a trafficker, your breaking a shit load of laws including not paying taxes.

I aint hating on those moving 5packs, shit i did 23 last month and most of my people do the same..

The reason people can even make money off moving packs is because its illegal.

yea its sad that people are still going to jail, but its kinda unreasonable for them to decriminlize trafficking.

all legal bills still make trafficking illegal, which makes this whole debate really hard, because Medical Marijuana has to be grown and trafficcked before it hits the clubs...

I'm not saying that any of the legalization laws are ready to go by any means. I'm saying there needs to be FULL LEGALIZATION. No bs decriminalization laws. Of course it has to be trafficked, how else is it gonna get there. It wouldn't be trafficking if it was fully legal though. I would gladly pay taxes if I had the chance too as long as every aspect of the trade was legalized.

With legalization 5 packs won't be worth jack shit and that's how it should be. 5 pounds of weed really aint shit if you think about how much weed there is around. Shit, I could smoke a pound to myself in a month if I wanted to. How can anyone justify the price of pound today? You can't. Nothing else that's legal cost anywhere near the same pound for pound. What if wheat cost that much? It's crazy. I don't care if lose my profits, I've got other skills that make money.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

^yea but the problem is that its hard to regulate. unlike alcohol, MJ is still a high priced commodity and even if some clubs are paying taxes, theres dozens of people right now on CL, bud trader, etc, slanging weight and not paying taxes.

even if its legalized there might still be a strong underground economy that doesnt pay taxes and thats what the government hates.

the big companies can step it and make it super cheap but i dont see that happening any time soon.

 

[praisehim.]

yes4prop is RIGHT.

 

[Speedcat]

You sound too fucking paranoid to be growing... probably haven't been growing long.

I live in Florida and what dose my length of time growing and being paranoid have anything to do with each other. Are you saying The longer Ive been growing the less paranoid i should be, that makes no sense at all. If anything a person should be more paranoid since their luck might eventually run out, statistically the more you do something illigaly the more LIKELY something wrong will happen.you are increasing your chances of getting caught. If a person robs a bank 1 time they may get away, but when you rob 15 you are greatly increasing your chances of getting caught Its just that more shit some how couldl go wrong. your buddy gets pulled over for the oz you gave him he snitches. Um, FLIR which is VERY real in my area, Choppers all day every day fly all around low as hell with the FLIR cameras on. What if the seeds you orderd offline got opend and the person sealed them up and ratted on you. What if your buddy tells some one your growing and youg et robbed or they get caught with weed, you dont even fuckign know them and their scraed to tell on their dealer so they rat on you. theirs a million ways to get fucked and inf anything liek i said the longer you do something Illigal it should make you more paranoid especially in this day and age, cops are trying to hang onto their jobs making themself look worthwhile And pot busts can add a nice look to doing your job well....were easy targets and they know it.

 

[CaptainTrips]

I live in Florida and what dose my length of time growing and being paranoid have anything to do with each other. Are you saying The longer Ive been growing the less paranoid i should be, that makes no sense at all. If anything a person should be more paranoid since their luck might eventually run out, statistically the more you do something illigaly the more LIKELY something wrong will happen.you are increasing your chances of getting caught. If a person robs a bank 1 time they may get away, but when you rob 15 you are greatly increasing your chances of getting caught Its just that more shit some how couldl go wrong. your buddy gets pulled over for the oz you gave him he snitches. Um, FLIR which is VERY real in my area, Choppers all day every day fly all around low as hell with the FLIR cameras on. What if the seeds you orderd offline got opend and the person sealed them up and ratted on you. What if your buddy tells some one your growing and youg et robbed or they get caught with weed, you dont even fuckign know them and their scraed to tell on their dealer so they rat on you. theirs a million ways to get fucked and inf anything liek i said the longer you do something Illigal it should make you more paranoid especially in this day and age, cops are trying to hang onto their jobs making themself look worthwhile And pot busts can add a nice look to doing your job well....were easy targets and they know it.

hmm, well im just saying from experience... when i first started, i was certainly "paranoid", and I do not live in a weed nazi state like florida lol... If I did live in florida, i probably wouldn't grow and would get the fuck out of dodge. Now after almost 10 years, I don't care. If I get caught, I get caught. No sense worrying about stuff you can't control.

 

[Bad_Replicant]

There can only be an underground market for pot if the legitimate market for pot is kept artificially expensive.

Just like you can't put Heinz ketchup out of business by growing tomatoes in your back yard, some shmoe with a 1000 watt hps can't compete with Agri-business. For good or for ill, legalization will lead to corporate domination of pot, just like any other consumer product.

 

[<~Hades~>]

There can only be an underground market for pot if the legitimate market for pot is kept artificially expensive.

Just like you can't put Heinz ketchup out of business by growing tomatoes in your back yard, some shmoe with a 1000 watt hps can't compete with Agri-business. For good or for ill, legalization will lead to corporate domination of pot, just like any other consumer product.

You will be buying hawaiian outdoor from dole or delmonte for 20-30 a Lb or 10$ for south american lbs also dole or delmonte

 

[Gdood9]

^yea but the problem is that its hard to regulate. unlike alcohol, MJ is still a high priced commodity and even if some clubs are paying taxes, theres dozens of people right now on CL, bud trader, etc, slanging weight and not paying taxes.

even if its legalized there might still be a strong underground economy that doesnt pay taxes and thats what the government hates.

the big companies can step it and make it super cheap but i dont see that happening any time soon.

Gimme 100 acres and I can make it super cheap. If legalization happens do you understand how many people will jump on this? I got a buddy that's already told me as soon as legalization he's gonna turn half his farm into cannabis growing.

First off there's tons of people that already don't pay their taxes. The market will be so large it will offset the underground. Big Corporations will step in and mass produce the shit...that's fine with me. I'll keep on growing my head stash.