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H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccines Info*

TxMatt

Member
I will reveal the manufacturers that dispense their H1N1 vaccines to Europe and the us what kind of toxic substances are in them. Secondly, I will home in on those substances and expand on the nature of their respective toxicities.


Focetria (Novartis)

What Focetria contains
- Active Substance:
Influenza virus surface antigens (haemagglutinin and neuraminidase)* of strain:
A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)v like strain (X-179A) 7.5 micrograms** per 0.5 ml dose
* propagated in eggs
** expressed in microgram haemagglutinin.
This vaccine complies with the WHO recommendation and EU decision for the pandemic.
- Adjuvant:
The vaccine contains an ‘adjuvant’ (MF59C.1) to stimulate a better response. MF59C.1 is an oil/water emulsion containing 9.75 mg squalene, 1.175 mg polysorbate 80 and 1.175 mg sorbitan trioleate in a citrate buffer.
- Other Ingredients:
The other ingredients are: thiomersal (multidose vial only), sodium chloride, potassium chloride, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, disodium phosphate dihydrate, magnesium chloride hexahydrate, calcium chloride dihydrate, sodium citrate, citric acid and water for injections.
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Pandemrix (GlaxoSmithKline)

What Pandemrix contains
• Active substance:
Split influenza virus, inactivated, containing antigen* equivalent to:
A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)v-like strain (X-179A) 3.75 micrograms** per 0.5 ml dose
*propagated in eggs
** expressed in microgram haemagglutinin
This vaccine complies with the WHO recommendation and EU decision for the pandemic.
• Adjuvant:
The vaccine contains an ‘adjuvant’ AS03 to stimulate a better response. This adjuvant contains
squalene (10.69 milligrams), DL-α-tocopherol (11.86 milligrams) and polysorbate 80 (4.86
milligrams).
• Other ingredients:
The other ingredients are: polysorbate 80, octoxynol 10, thiomersal, sodium chloride, disodium
hydrogen phosphate, potassium
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Celvapan (Baxter)

What Celvapan contains
Active substance:
Whole virion influenza vaccine, inactivated, containing antigen of pandemic strain*:
A/California/07/2009 (H1N1) 7.5 micrograms**
per 0.5 ml dose
* propagated in Vero cells (continuous cell line of mammalian origin)
** haemagglutinin
This vaccine complies with the WHO recommendation and EU decision for the pandemic.
Other ingredients:
The other ingredients are: trometamol, sodium chloride, water for injections, polysorbate 80.
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The Different Poisons

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Mercury (Thimerosal or Thiomersal)

Thiomersal (INN) (C9H9HgNaO2S), or sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate, commonly known in the United States as thimerosal, is an organomercury compound (approximately 49% mercury by weight) used as an antiseptic and antifungal agent.
It was invented and patented by Morris Kharasch. The pharmaceutical corporation Eli Lilly and Company gave it the trade name Merthiolate and it has been used as a preservative in vaccines, immunoglobulin preparations, skin test antigens, antivenins, ophthalmic and nasal products, and tattos inks. The compound is being phased out from routine childhood vaccines in the United States, the European Union, and a few other countries
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Here are two quotes from the CDC and the National Academies stating that thimerosal in vaccines is basically all fine and dandy

Thimerosal
“Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative used in some vaccines and other products since the 1930s. No harmful effects have been reported from thimerosal at doses used in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site. However, in July 1999, the Public Health Service (PHS) agencies, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure. Today, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, none of the vaccines used in the U.S. to protect preschool children against 12 infectious diseases contain thimerosal as a preservative.” Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
“Based on a thorough review of clinical and epidemiological studies, neither the mercury-based vaccine thimerosal nor the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine are associated with autism… Five large epidemiological studies in the United States, the United Kingdom, Denmark, and Sweden since 2001 consistently provided evidence that there is no association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism… ” National Academies press release about the IOM report “Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism,” May 18, 2004
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Regarding the first quote, if “no harmful effects have been reported from thimerosal at doses used in vaccines” then, while reading the next sentence, why promote the push to eliminate it from vaccines? The quote of and by itself by its mere formulation is oxymoronic and therefore suspicion raising.

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Here’s a Material Safety Data Sheet of thimerosal:
Primary Physical and Health Hazards: Skin Permeable. Toxic. Mutagen. Irritant (eyes).
Allergen. Nervous System and Reproductive Effects.
Caution Statement: Thimerosal may enter the body through the skin, is toxic, alters genetic material, may be irritating to the eyes, and causes allergic reactions. Effects of exposure may include numbness of extremities, fetal changes, decreased offspring survival, and lung tissue changes.
Routes of Entry: Inhalation and skin absorption.
Effects of Overexposure: Topical allergic dermatitis has been reported. Thimerosal contains
mercury. Mercury poisoning may occur and topical hypersensitivity reactions may be seen. Early signs
of mercury poisoning in adults are nervous system effects, including narrowing of the visual field and
numbness in the extremities. Exposure to mercury in utero and in children may cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination impairment. Based on animal data, may be irritating to the eyes.
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So what’s the meaning of these codes? The pictograms and hazard codes page indicates that T+ stands for “Extremely toxic” and N stands for “Dangerous for the environment.” Does that sound like stuff you want to have injected straight into your system?
Here is a portion of the abstract of a new peer-reviewed scientific study investigating thimerosal neurotoxicity. It states quite clearly that thimerosal induces autism-like neurotoxicity:


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Thimerosal-induced cellular damage as evidenced by concentration- and time-dependent mitochondrial damage, reduced oxidative-reduction activity, cellular degeneration, and cell death in the in vitro human neuronal and fetal model systems studied. Thimerosal at low nanomolar (nM) concentrations induced significant cellular toxicity in human neuronal and fetal cells. Thimerosal-induced cytoxicity is similar to that observed in AD pathophysiologic studies. Thimerosal was found to be significantly more toxic than the other metal compounds examined
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Squalene


Squalene is a natural organic compound originally obtained for commercial purposes primarily from shark liver oil, though botanic sources (primarily vegetable oils) are used as well, including amaranth seed, rice bran, wheat germ, and olives. All higher organisms produce squalene, including humans. It is a hydrocarbon and a triterpene. Squalene is a natural and vital part of the synthesis of cholesterol, steroid hormones, and vitamin D in the human body.[1] Squalene is used in cosmetics, and more recently as an immunologic adjuvant in vaccines.

Looks pretty benign, no? Well, that seems to be the case if you consume it through regular channels, that is by eating or drinking it. The situation changes unfortunately when you have the stuff injected straight into your system. Now the substance suddenly is being perceived far from benign. You see when injected, squalene is then registered by your immune system as a foreign substance, i.e. something that should not be there. As a consequence, an immune response is triggered, meaning that your immune system will proceed with attacking squalene
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here’s the abstract of a scientific study which shows that Gulf War era troops suffering from GWS, whether or not they were deployed in the actual Gulf War, almost all had antibodies to squalene:

Antibodies to squalene in Gulf War syndrome.
Asa PB, Cao Y, Garry RF.
Department of Microbiology, Tulane Medical School, 1430 Tulane Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana, 70112, USA. PMBA@aol.com
Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) is a multisystemic illness afflicting many Gulf War-era veterans. The molecular pathological basis for GWS has not been established. We sought to determine whether the presence of antibodies to squalene correlates with the presence of signs and symptoms of GWS. Participants in this blinded cohort study were individuals immunized for service in Desert Shield/Desert Storm during 1990-1991. They included 144 Gulf War-era veterans or military employees (58 in the blinded study), 48 blood donors, 40 systemic lupus erythematosus patients, 34 silicone breast implant recipients, and 30 chronic fatigue syndrome patients. Serum antibodies to squalene were measured. In our small cohort, the substantial majority (95%) of overtly ill deployed GWS patients had antibodies to squalene. All (100%) GWS patients immunized for service in Desert Shield/Desert Storm who did not deploy, but had the same signs and symptoms as those who did deploy, had antibodies to squalene. In contrast, none (0%) of the deployed Persian Gulf veterans not showing signs and symptoms of GWS have antibodies to squalene. Neither patients with idiopathic autoimmune disease nor healthy controls had detectable serum antibodies to squalene. The majority of symptomatic GWS patients had serum antibodies to squalene. Copyright 2000 Academic Press.
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Polysorbate 80 (TWEEN 80)

What is this stuff?
Polysorbate 80
Polysorbate 80 (commercially also known as Tween® 80) is a nonionic detergent and emulsifier derived from sorbitol and oleic acid, and is often used in foods, especially pickles. Polysorbate 80 is a viscous water soluble yellow liquid. The hydrophilic groups in this compound are polyethers which are polymers of ethylene oxide.
Polysorbate 80 is often used in ice cream to prevent milk proteins from completely coating the fat droplets. This allows them to join together in chains and nets, to hold air in the mixture, and provide a firmer texture, holding its shape as the ice cream melts.
Other names
Polyoxyethylene sorbitan monooleate
(x)-sorbitan mono-9-octadecenoate poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl)
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Can it do harm? Yes, it can:
Polysorbate 80 in medical products and nonimmunologic anaphylactoid reactions.
Coors EA, Seybold H, Merk HF, Mahler V.
Department of Dermatology, Friedrich-Alexander University of Erlangen-Nuremberg, Erlangen, Germany.
Polyoxyethylene-sorbitan-20-monooleate (also known as polysorbate 80 and Tween 80) is a solubilizing agent ubiquitously used in nutritives, creams, ointments, lotions, and multiple medical preparations (e.g., vitamin oils, vaccines, and anticancer agents) and as an additive in tablets. Whereas its relevance as a contact allergen has declined during the past decades, it is of current relevance as a “hidden” inductor of anaphylactoid reactions. OBJECTIVE: To identify polysorbate 80 (generally believed to be an inert vehicle) as an inductor of a severe anaphylactoid reaction. METHODS: Skin prick testing, enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay, IgE immunoblotting, and flow cytometric detection of basophil activation were performed in controls and in a patient with a medical history of anaphylactic shock due to intravenous administration of a multivitamin product during pregnancy. RESULTS: Polysorbate 80 was identified as the causative agent for the anaphylactoid reaction of nonimmunologic origin in the patient. Polysorbate specific IgE antibodies were not identified in enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay and immunoblot examinations, confirming the nonimmunologic nature of the anaphylactoid reaction. CONCLUSIONS: Polysorbate 80 is a ubiquitously used solubilizing agent that can cause severe nonimmunologic anaphylactoid reactions.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Delayed effects of neonatal exposure to Tween 80 on female reproductive organs in rats.
Gajdová M, Jakubovsky J, Války J.
Institute of Preventive and Clinical Medicine, Limbová, Bratislava.
Neonatal female rats were injected ip (0.1 ml/rat) with Tween 80 in 1, 5 or 10% aqueous solution on days 4-7 after birth. Treatment with Tween 80 accelerated maturation, prolonged the oestrus cycle, and induced persistent vaginal oestrus. The relative weight of the uterus and ovaries was decreased relative to the untreated controls. Squamous cell metaplasia of the epithelial lining of the uterus and cytological changes in the uterus were indicative of chronic oestrogenic stimulation. Ovaries were without corpora lutea, and had degenerative follicles. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 

SeatleHomegrown

New member
you know, as much i do despise the government and ish, why the hell would they put all this shit into a vaccine if it was gonna kill us all?? i just have to say that because i got both the nasal liquid stuff and the shot over 6 months ago....
no ill effects!! no nada!!
hah good luck with this h1n1 conspiracy

and geopolitical....
your link sent me to a page about people drowning in water... what does this have to do with the thread?? haha i love icmag
 
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kmk420kali

Freedom Fighter
Veteran
you know, as much i do despise the government and ish, why the hell would they put all this shit into a vaccine if it was gonna kill us all?? i just have to say that because i got both the nasal liquid stuff and the shot over 6 months ago....
no ill effects!! no nada!!
hah good luck with this h1n1 conspiracy

and geopolitical....
your link sent me to a page about people drowning in water... what does this have to do with the thread?? haha i love icmag

Got to agree with this....many things are toxic...but when combined with the right things, are perfectly harmless-- I'm no Chemist...but yeah, it is more than just listing ingredients...it is the compounded interaction that counts--
Think I'm wrong...try drinking Hydrogen...or Oxygen...it doesn't work too well...but if you combine them just right....:tiphat:
 

hazy

Active member
Veteran
I had the dreaded h1n1 a couple months ago. It was the mildest flu I've ever had. Still sucked, but nothing like the hype.
 

daves4usc

Member
These wont kill you unless you take several shots... and you only need one. I got one and I felt fine. As matter of fact everyone I know who got one never complained about any side effects. You think that shit is bad you should look more into the food you eat everyday. Nice info though
 

Ganglere

Member
All the ingredients come together and make a mind control drug. When they are ready they'll be putting subliminal messages in reallity shows and voila, everybody's a willing slave to the Powers that be...

Oops, one major flaw: most people already are :asskick:


I seem unable to decide if it's incompetence or straight forward greed/power/malice that runs the show. What does appear inevitable is that we're fucked :angrymod:
 
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mugenbao

I had the dreaded h1n1 a couple months ago. It was the mildest flu I've ever had. Still sucked, but nothing like the hype.
That's wonderful that it wasn't that bad for you, and I'm happy to hear that, but I know two people (family members) who damn near died from it and required hospital treatment. There was a reason for the hype, though I'm glad in your case it wasn't all that bad.
 

medmaker420

The Aardvarks LED Grow Show
Veteran
you know, as much i do despise the government and ish, why the hell would they put all this shit into a vaccine if it was gonna kill us all?? i just have to say that because i got both the nasal liquid stuff and the shot over 6 months ago....
no ill effects!! no nada!!
hah good luck with this h1n1 conspiracy

and geopolitical....
your link sent me to a page about people drowning in water... what does this have to do with the thread?? haha i love icmag

Ok, how many died FROM the h1n1 this time OR even when we had our previous over amped up swine flue in the 70's?

If it aint broke......
 

medmaker420

The Aardvarks LED Grow Show
Veteran
That's wonderful that it wasn't that bad for you, and I'm happy to hear that, but I know two people (family members) who damn near died from it and required hospital treatment. There was a reason for the hype, though I'm glad in your case it wasn't all that bad.

no offense but "almost dying" is a bit of a word stretch.... driving down the road we all technically ALMOST die...

h1n1 was not as bad as they hyped it up to be BUT those who fed into the b.s. sure feel better knowing they are protecting from something that has killed what... under 5 people? Call the national guard.
 
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Guywithoutajeep

Ummmm the government does not put chemicals into vaccines. Scientists do. The government does not order the scientific community to develop vaccines which contain lethal doses of certain molecules.

Furthermore, I want everyone to realize that even water in high doses is highly toxic. So you must understand that just because a chemical is poisonous at a certain concentration does not imply that it is never safe to ingest or pass through your bloodstream.

Example: Mercury is known to be highly toxic at low doses, but yet we find that we ingest it everyday. It is in our water supply and in many of the foods that we eat. Are you going to stop drinking water? Of course not. Will it kill you? Of course not.

Lets keep this simple. Many ask the question, why do scientists put chemicals which we know to cause harm to ourselves? Well, the question in itself is misguided. All molecules at certain concentrations are known to be toxic. Even marijuana.

While I believe that a normal healthy person does not ever require flu vaccines it is still a great public service to provide medicine to the people.

I'm earning a degree in molecular, cellular, and developmental biology and we went over this a long time ago. It's so easy to caught up in the usual government conspiracy, dooms day type ideology, but it is simply debunked by solid and repeated scientific evidence.

If there was any type of toxicity issues with flu vaccines believe me, biologists would go apeshit. We love to rag on the government just as much as anything else.
 

SOTF420

Humble Human, Freedom Fighter, Cannabis Lover, Bre
ICMag Donor
Veteran
I had swine flu this year and it was pretty mild, like a bad chest cold. I smoked lots of Sweet Tooth which helped me cough the shit out and it went away. :joint:
 

geopolitical

Vladimir Demikhov Fanboy
Veteran
Out of all the ingredients in a typical flu shot, dihydrogen oxide, in excess or absence is responsible for more deaths worldwide than anything else you've listed there. Crop failures, wars, malaria, you name it, it's got water wrapped up in it. In fact, water intoxication is a lethal condition and can cause death in minutes. Generally you go into cardiac failure of one sort or another.

Acute mercury poisoning generally takes years to kill unless it's a compound like mercuric cyanide or an organic compound like dimethylmercury, which the last spill I know of took out several thousand people in an afternoon. If you've got a dimethylmercury problem, you won't know it, you'll be dead already.

Mercury salts are how you'd normallly encounter them if you did and these in fact have real issues passing the blood/brain barrier, so generally you die of acute organ failure before they really do significant damage to your brain.

More than likely however your daily exposure to mercury comes mostly from food, esp seafood. This would be ethylmercury, a moderately toxic compound that can definitely ruin your weekend in sufficient quantities or over prolonged exposures. AFAIK your thiomersal would break down pretty rapidly into ethylmercury (the sort you'd likely encounter from say, eating fish). Ethylmercury has a half life of about 15-20 days for most people.

Personally I'm a fan of some mercury compounds. I like dental amalgams, especially as they are bacteriostatic unlike ALL of the resins that replaced them. Oh, unless you're a big tobacco chewer. I did see some interesting research on mercury excretion rates in snuss users vs. non. That being said, I like solid gold as a filling agent even more, but that's well out of most people's price range.

Did you know dental amalgam use dates to nearly 700bc?
 

SeatleHomegrown

New member
Ok, how many died FROM the h1n1 this time OR even when we had our previous over amped up swine flue in the 70's?

If it aint broke......

why did you quote me with that answer? im coming from the same POV as you are and your response made no sense/connection to what i said....


Out of all the ingredients in a typical flu shot, dihydrogen oxide, in excess or absence is responsible for more deaths worldwide than anything else you've listed there. Crop failures, wars, malaria, you name it, it's got water wrapped up in it. In fact, water intoxication is a lethal condition and can cause death in minutes. Generally you go into cardiac failure of one sort or another.

Acute mercury poisoning generally takes years to kill unless it's a compound like mercuric cyanide or an organic compound like dimethylmercury, which the last spill I know of took out several thousand people in an afternoon. If you've got a dimethylmercury problem, you won't know it, you'll be dead already.

well i had both, its been several months, and im not Dead already!! that alone should be proof enough to disprove this H1N1 death shot myth, but if we need more proof as to why this vaccine is safe, bring it on people! also i highly doubt this vaccine is used to brainwash us through the television. crazy haha
 

baan

Member
I'll spell it out.

swine flu shot = reproductive damage and alteration

reproductive damage and alteration = less and weaker offspring

less and weaker offspring = less population

Sure, you eat food with the stuff in it. That's part of the problem too, but you need a bigger better dose once in a while. You could smoke a cigarette and not get the same effect as eating a fistfull of tobacco.

And if you think that pharmaceuticals and government are not connected, just do a little research into their relationship and you'll find all sorts of neat stuff including lobbying and legislation. They're tight, no question about it.

EDIT: also find out about bioaccumulation. If it doesn't kill you yet it could still kill you quicker. Don't forget that a little 'spill' could tip things over the edge and into the grave if a toxic 'spill' happens in your neighborhood or city.
 
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