Hash from seed run buds.

[ijimunot]

I am doing a seed run with hash plant x afghan. Was wondering what quantity and quality of trichromes from mature seeded bud be like. Hash will be dry sifted. I understand the variables involved with environment and nutrients. But if I can make good hash from the product after I remove the seed then I would be a happy camper.

 

[cork144]

you should watch gypsy nirvanas trip to morroco, all the plants they used were seeded, heavily,

 

[ijimunot]

I seen that some time ago. It was a dark red hash. I remember that they let it dry some on the stalk, cut it then finished drying before thrashing it. Thanks

 

[Stonerguy]

I don't think the quality/quantity will be good but it might be a good experiment to try to isomerise the hashs CBN back into active THC-A.... If I am not wrong seeded plants have less good cannabinoids thc, thc-a and more CBN from the degredation of all of the cannabinoids that were on the plant before it was pollinated.

So I say yes go for it but go for isomerization!!!

 

[ZEROorDIE]

I don't think the quality/quantity will be good but it might be a good experiment to try to isomerise the hashs CBN back into active THC-A.... If I am not wrong seeded plants have less good cannabinoids thc, thc-a and more CBN from the degredation of all of the cannabinoids that were on the plant before it was pollinated.

So I say yes go for it but go for isomerization!!!

spot on.

if you use the plant material and make hash out of it as is, you will end up with a very stoney/sleepy high after smoking the hash.

there are many ways to isomerize the hash to get more THC and THC-A out of it as since they have aged so much they are primarily the less desired cannibinoids.

personally what i would do is a oil extraction but once the iso/w/e is about 75% evaporated, put the baking dish youre evapping on in the oven at 220* F for about 20mins

afer that step put it directly in the freezer for 2hrs then scrape

this will help to convert whatever cannibinoids can still be isomerized to forms of THC

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

WRONG

Resin from seeded plants is a little less potent, and has less terpenoid content. It has the exact same Cannabinoid ratios, just a bit less of them.
All imported hashish is from seeded plants, all of it.
If you think that resin from seeded plants is no good it is because you have not made any.
That said sinse resin is better.
-SamS

 

[ijimunot]

Isomerizing havent thought of that in years. I'm thinking screen half. Iso all then mix the trichromes with the isomerized honey to make the end product more manageable. I welcome something that will knock me out and help me sleep. Thanks

 

[Stonerguy]

WRONG

Resin from seeded plants is a little less potent, and has less terpenoid content. It has the exact same Cannabinoid ratios, just a bit less of them.
All imported hashish is from seeded plants, all of it.
If you think that resin from seeded plants is no good it is because you have not made any.
That said sinse resin is better.
-SamS

Is there literature on the subject about the ratio be for pollination, during (development of seed), and after seeds have matured?


I will admit I have not made much hash but have smoked alot of it. I think there is a difference between seed run buds AKA Fully seeded hopefully right? (Trying to get the most seed you can right) and merely some imported bud that is kinda seedy you know a few seeds?

I wonder if there is literature on the subject? I would get on my schools journals data base and look around but its sunday and I am smoking some fine blond right now!

 

[ICETOKER]

WRONG

Resin from seeded plants is a little less potent, and has less terpenoid content. It has the exact same Cannabinoid ratios, just a bit less of them.
All imported hashish is from seeded plants, all of it.
If you think that resin from seeded plants is no good it is because you have not made any.
That said sinse resin is better.
-SamS

Right on sam.... through the years all of my favorite hashes have been imports. ALL of them. But not any one of those has the raw potency of my bubble or bho..... but some have been damn close

 

[medmaker420]

This is exactly what I am going to do as well. Seed runs and hash, sounds like a winning partnership indeed.

I would like to research a bit more on the different extract methods to allow for either a higher thc versus higher cbd ratios and so forth.

Having nappy and happy hash sounds like a perfect day/night setup.

 

[ZEROorDIE]

WRONG

Resin from seeded plants is a little less potent, and has less terpenoid content. It has the exact same Cannabinoid ratios, just a bit less of them.
All imported hashish is from seeded plants, all of it.
If you think that resin from seeded plants is no good it is because you have not made any.
That said sinse resin is better.
-SamS

interesting. im gonna have to go look into this as i was always under the impression that as the plant matured the cannabinoids continued on their degradation fromthe initial non psycoactive annibinoids to D-9 THC then to CBD and CBN and other less usefull cannibinoids

hence early cut buds(little to no brown in the trich heads) are higher in THC-a and Delta 9 whereas late cut buds(thrich heads mostly amber some brown and little clear) was more CBD and CDN causing the couch lock high vs. a heady high

feel free to correct me or even better link me to some other research.

*dissapears into the forums depths to hunt for info*

 

[Lord Humungus]

i had a couple of fully seeded plants that i converted to BHO... im glad i did becasue the seeded bud material was dooky to burn...

 

[joaquin386]

Nice info. Though the hash was made from seedless plants.

Have to buy the book hashish!

 

[OrganicMonkey]

The hash should be good, sometimes the calyxes get burned, showing less trichromes because of seed production requiring different nutrients then seedless. It's the best choice to make with the product that you have.