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may i have a mentor to help me w/ 1st clone attempt?

farmdalefurr

I feel nothing and it feels great
Veteran
im about to clone for the 1st time. i have all the proper materials. 2x2 rockwool cubes, olivias cloning gel, sterilized instruments, etc. im just not confident in myself 2 do this alone i guess you could say. im also not sure if where/what i want to clone is do-able. this swiss cheese is 4-5 weeks along in happy frog soil w/ ff nutes. i shot a pic of the branch i wanna clone. is this branch even far along enough to clone?
 

jcochran

Member
im about to clone for the 1st time. i have all the proper materials. 2x2 rockwool cubes, olivias cloning gel, sterilized instruments, etc. im just not confident in myself 2 do this alone i guess you could say. im also not sure if where/what i want to clone is do-able. this swiss cheese is 4-5 weeks along in happy frog soil w/ ff nutes. i shot a pic of the branch i wanna clone. is this branch even far along enough to clone?

this is my first time doing this as well...but i would say yes. i took cuts way smaller than that, and had some of em root still. only problem is 4-5 days in my cuts started drooping yellowing and dying....not sure what i did wrong....maybe too much misting/too much time in the dome? not really sure man...tryna figure it out so i dont kill anymore and can actually have some clones for my next round
 

Tatz

Member
Hey guys !
Check this, it WILL help you with both yours problems...

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Have a nice day !!!
Peace
 

Fat J

Member
I'll sit in too, if you dont mind, wish I had some advice on this one but, I just recently started making my own clones too... Im using a cheezy cloner (DIY build) and it worked well with some cuts but not well with a bunch other, hope we get some good advice about how to cut them/prep them and maybe ill figger out what i did wrong...

^.^ did I already smoke that bowl... can't remember, better smoke 1...
 

Think Green

Active member
Let me start by saying that cannabis is a very resilient plant. You can hack it, bend it, train it, cut it & stress it the F*ck oat & it will still continue to grow. Having said that, taking clones is a little more touchy. Now granted, you can take cuts & set them in a glass of water and within 7-14 days you will see roots. Now this is not the ideal way to take cuts IMHO, but it will work. I myself can boast a 100% cut rate. Not bragging, just saying. Taking cuts is quite simple. I use the dutch masters replicator gel. It's suppose to draw any air embolisms out that were incurred during your initial cut. As we all know, 90% of most cutting deaths are attributed to air getting into the main stem & working its way through the cutting resulting in death. Always remember to use a new razor blade when taking your cuts. Nasty, dirty blades can work but I have seen clones take 3-4 weeks to root after being cut with a bad blade. Cut just below the 4th node from the top of your designated branch. This is the area that cuttings are most likely to root. Take lower branches for your cuts as they are softer & more supple than the branches located towards the top of the plant. Your upper branches see more light, air circulation & are well fed which makes them quite tough. Make sure your medium is good & wet. You can even throw a mild nute solution in the medium to prevent the necrosis that occurs when the plant begins to consume water & food. After making your cut @ 45 degree angle, place your cutting about 1/4 to 1/2 inch into the medium. Lots of people trim the tips of the leaves off the cutting making it easier for the cutting to transpire water & breath. After your cutting is placed in is medium & ready to be rooted, spray leaves with a spray bottle soaking the foliage. This provides your cutting a way to "eat" while it waits on its root system to develop. Plants have stomata, or pores, all over the surface of the leaves. These tiny pores will absorb the water hence feeding the plant. Gradually lower the relative humidity from 90-100% to 70-80% then to 60-70%. Gradually bringing the r/h down will encourage roots to tap in search of food and water. Keep in mind to not soak the bottoms of your cubes if using rockwool. Soaked cubes will slow root growth. If your medium stays soaked, then the roots will not have to stretch out to look for food & water, hence slow root growth. I hope this helps. Below are a pic of my last clones taken around 5 weeks ago.

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Ps: I use a humidity dome for my cuts & don't move them around a lot for at least 6 or 7 days. Then I will check for roots. :bigeye:
 

darksith

Member
take a new razor, cut that branch off right next to the main stalk, recut it on a 45, dip it in your rooting gel and put it in your medium. Place it in a tray with a dome, make sure it is nice and moist. Put tray in a warm place and make sure it doesn't dry out. You'll be good 2 go.
 

FreezerBoy

Was blind but now IC Puckbunny in Training
Veteran
My greatest success jump came from soaking stems for 1 minute in full strength Hormex (any IBA/NAA cloning solution will do) Domes and their lethal levels of RH were my greatest cause of death. Once the dome went in the trash, death went with it. Keeping cuts short and well trimmed, I've cloned in as low as 15% RH.



Cloning is Voodoo. No other area will see such disparate results from identical procedures. What saves me may kill you dead (domes as an example). That said, there is only ONE proper way to clone; Whatever gets you roots. There are a million ways to clone in the Naked City. Keep trying till one works for you.
 

GrnMtnGrwr

Active member
Veteran
I was wondering if you were going to stop by FreezerBoy. :biggrin:

I went from being terrible at cloning to having 100% success after taking FB's advice. I put the cuts in water as soon as I took them, then let them soak in some Hormex for a minute, and then put them into a passive wick cloner. Doesn't get much easier. :yes:
 

farmdalefurr

I feel nothing and it feels great
Veteran
wow. thank you ALL for your wealth of great information. im gonna go for it and see how it goes. im just getting tired of alwayz going from seed and not being able to keep good strains going. i will get back with everyone asap on how the adventure went. once again..... THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT.
 
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easyrasta

not a fan of olivas
have better luck with clonex
just try to be very clean about the process and it should go well,
new blade, etc
best of luck
Ez
 

farmdalefurr

I feel nothing and it feels great
Veteran
well i took my swiss cheese clone. soaked my 2x2 rw cube in 5.5 ph water, used brand new blade, cut at the stalk then cut a 45 degree angle and immediately placed the stem in the rooting gel, then immediately into the rockwool cube. cut the tips of leaves off, misted the inside of my dome and closed her up. temp is currently 72 degrees w/ rh @ 91 %. everything sound ok so far?
 
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easyrasta

sounds good,
make sure the wet leaves dont touch each other or the dome,
could lead to mold, air it out once a day
best of luck &
peace
Ez
 

cannaboy

Member
Get jiffi cubes and some clonex some water and a proporgator slice a perfect stem below a leaf and branch node and at 45% slice with a razor on all 3 nodes into the clonx and into a pre soaked jiffi into the prop very easy..
 

Gdood9

Member
well i took my swiss cheese clone. soaked my 2x2 rw cube in 5.5 ph water, used brand new blade, cut at the stalk then cut a 45 degree angle and immediately placed the stem in the rooting gel, then immediately into the rockwool cube. cut the tips of leaves off, misted the inside of my dome and closed her up. temp is currently 72 degrees w/ rh @ 91 %. everything sound ok so far?

Sounds perfect. Bring your temps up a lil with a heating mat. They'll root faster. Cloning is super easy, don't let people make out that it's hard. Shit, I've rooted clones with no rooting hormone. My buddy who was a botany major used to just take cuts from plants in the field, stick them in his mouth until he got back home, cut a new 45 angle, stuck them in soil with no rooting hormone, brought up the humidity and bam....7-10 days later, roots. This was about 15 years ago.

The first time I cloned, I made 150 cuts from 12 moms. 100% success. Some cuts took longer than others to root, but whatever. I pop the dome once a day for a min and I recommend not spraying anything on them, the humidity in the dome is enough. Don't keep your rockwool cubes too wet or dry either.
 
I made a cloner out of a water bottle ice cube tray (seen on the forums) I use shultz rooting hormone, and just dipped the ends into it and put it straight into the vermiculite. I keep them about 3-4 feet away from 93 watts of CFL. The RH is about 45% and temps are at about 74-76. One of them is looking really unhealthy right now after about 4-5 days, I'm wondering if I should change my conditions to encourage root growth, what should I do?
 

FreezerBoy

Was blind but now IC Puckbunny in Training
Veteran
Cloning is super easy, don't let people make out that it's hard.

While I'm at 100% now, it took me months to get a single root. Not saying that will be the case here but, if it is, don't get discouraged. Keep trying different ways till one clicks.
 

farmdalefurr

I feel nothing and it feels great
Veteran
thanks for the kind words freezerboy. im on day 3 since i cloned it. personally i dont think shes lookin 2 hot, but that may just be bcuz im worried haha. oh well if she doesnt make it, she doesnt make it. like you said..... try try again. my rockwool is still damp but not soaking wet. temps are ok in the mid 70's and rh is ok. ill take a shot of it later and yall can tell me what ya think.
 
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