fish hydrolysate ?
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redneck shogun
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I've been meaning to learn how to use the fish in my pond for that but I figured it was unlikely that anyone here would know how to go about that. But who knows maybe someone here might chime in with something. All I know is that I heard there was a company around here that made it from catfish and I was intrigued on how I could do it myself.
Zendo
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If you google this, there are a few recipes online, using papain (papaya) enzymes to break down the fish, and molasses/sugar to help control the smell. Mostly you just have to pulverize or blend the fish and then add to 5 gallon bucket or what have you.Then adding enzymes and sugars and stirring every so often..
IMHO this one may be more trouble than worth. If you have extra fish, maybe look into bokashi, or just bury in your gardens or compost.
Maina are thinking mackerel and pollock?
It is a stinky process but i still think if your gonna toss fish its great for a hydroslate. Granted it may be smelly but it will be great full of tons of good stuff such as proteins, fatty acids and B-vitamins. There is a recipe in the Oragnic Fanatcis Collective at top. You could also just search how to do it, it will be easier.
Its grind the fish down to a slurry mix in a high carbon ingredient such as saw dust, humic acid and and some molasses. Let sit for around 2 weeks but make sure to stir it every now and than. You could also mix in powdered sea kelp if you wish to make a marine extract. It will get smelly so if thats a problem for you heres a link this stuff is pretty cheap http://www.groworganic.com/item_F1335_PVFS_Liquid_Fish_2402_Gallon.html?welcome=T&theses=6940541
Worth a shot. I bokashi lobster carcass and worms dig it.
Mackerel is gonna stink so bad if you do it open!
With bokashi you could even try bunker. Very carefully lol.
Mackerel is gonna stink so bad if you do it open!
With bokashi you could even try bunker. Very carefully lol.
Zendo
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Organic Gem- $7/quart. Unless you just like the sound of a fish hydrolysate DIY project.
Organic gem, earthfort, neptunes harvest, etc..It would be kind of cool to see the results from this finished, but it's just too gnarly for DIY IMHO. If you are going to do it, you should snap pictures for a tutorial and post it on the IC.
editors note* The opinions given are from a whacked out vegetarian who thinks the concept of pulverizing a dead carcass and stirring it's remains in his backyard/garage is borderline nuts, and a serious violation of the noble eightfold path. Disregard all posts in this thread.
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vonforne
I made that stuff before.....it is best made and used OUTSIDE. You can use it inside as long as you are not married and own cats. LOL
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Zendo
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I've read places where people said that if you use enough sugar it 'helps' with the smell. I had a hard time believing that.. I'm sure I would puke every time I had to pop that lid.
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vonforne
Not much turns my stomach but the first 1 to 5 days DO NOT open the lid. It is a smell you will never forget. You will feel this one in the throat.
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I completely agree and couldnt agree anymore with you Von, i try to forget the smell, but i've had nightmares of it attacking me lol. If only it didn't work se well, even when i dilute it, this stuff scares me. Only time it smells good is when you wash the container out.
Are we confusing fish emulsion and fish hydrolysate? Because I just purchased my first bottle of Organic Gem recently and it has almost zero odor at all. I buy the idea that the manufacturing process probably involves odor, but I suspect that properly made fish hydrolysate shouldn't have as much odor as you guys are talking about.
I think fish emulsion has less smell than hydrolysate. Its not that there shouldn't be much odor, its the type of odor. It doesn't smell like fish, maybe in a lesser extent. The only time i find it smells like fish is after i used it and washed the container out. Only than does it smell like an acceptable fish smell, any other time i find it horrid and hate how the smell sticks around. Than again smell is very subjective..
not to speak for maina, but he's a diy guy from what i can tell. i think that is cool.
NUG-JUG
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It would be kind of cool to see the results from this finished, but it's just too gnarly for DIY IMHO. If you are going to do it, you should snap pictures for a tutorial and post it on the IC.
editors note* The opinions given are from a whacked out vegetarian who thinks the concept of pulverizing a dead carcass and stirring it's remains in his backyard/garage is borderline nuts, and a serious violation of the noble eightfold path. Disregard all posts in this thread.
LOL Yea pics of the dead fish carcass soup would be awesome. I use Age Old 3-3-2 fish and kelp and it smells horrible imo. I think we are calling the same thing by two different names possibly?
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it just has a bad smell the first few days after that it is just fishy. it has a similar smell when you use some fish emulsions.......that fishy smell in the room for a couple of days.
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Dig- we are talking about making it.
