Adjusting PH before watering promix?

[EuroToker]

I just got half pound per light with purple kush clones using promix, only thing I can think of besides the fact the clones may have been shit was that maybe the PH was too high? does the dolomite adjust for a too high ph or just for an acidic ph?? apparantly the tapwater plus nutrients here is around 10, should I be adjusting before watering?

I really need a pound per light or more

 

[Snype]

I just got half pound per light with purple kush clones using promix, only thing I can think of besides the fact the clones may have been shit was that maybe the PH was too high? does the dolomite adjust for a too high ph or just for an acidic ph?? apparantly the tapwater plus nutrients here is around 10, should I be adjusting before watering?

I really need a pound per light or more

You still have to pH your feed and water when you grow in soil to 6.5-6.8. You're solution is 10? That's just crazy. You're lucky you got anything.

 

[EuroToker]

10 according to the guy who grew at my spot before me. municipality says the tapwater ph varies up to 8.5.

everything else in the grow was okay, food, temp, humidity etc. So ph was my likely fuckup eh?

 

[Snype]

I just don't understand how you think you can grow without a pH tester and think things will be fine. You can get the paper testers for like $10. I mean you want a LB per light and that's pretty easy to get but you are lacking a lot of info. Every plant is different and you have to learn that specific mom to get the correct yields. For example is it better to bush out that particular strain, top it, not top it, LST it, etc. Also you don't mention what kind of pots you got or the size of the plants and for all we know they could be in beer cups and of course you got no pics in your albums to look at. If you want help for getting the right yields, the more info the better.

 

[EuroToker]

what do you mean by lst? i intentionally didn't top it last time because of plant density under the lights.
Plants were in 1 gallon pots, vegged for 2 weeks.

This time around I would like to put them in beds, 321 liters of promix per 4x8 lighted area, with 50 plants in each bed.

 

[EuroToker]

found out what LST is, would topping be a better bet considering I have a few hundred to deal with? last time around under the light I topped, i got way way better results than the ones that I didn't

 

[Snype]

One gallon pots are pretty small man I'm sorry to say. They must have been root bound like crazy. Mine go into 5 gallon pots and get root bound. Bigger roots = bigger buds in soil.

 

[Snype]

found out what LST is, would topping be a better bet considering I have a few hundred to deal with? last time around under the light I topped, i got way way better results than the ones that I didn't

Yo, you are not listening. It depends on your specific mom. You have to run tests and know how to run that strain by running your tests and then you will know how do grow them. Some strains love to be topped and some don't, some like this and some like that. Some are better to run 100 plants per tray and some aren't. Some you can put into flower with no VEG and get huge yields and some you can't. Get the point?

 

[EuroToker]

yeah, it wasnt ideal, i had some juicy fruit clones that did well in the 1 gals, but nobody wants juicy.

do you think 321 liter (80 gallon) beds will be enough to do the trick? at least with beds there is a lot less rootbound

 

[Snype]

yeah, it wasnt ideal, i had some juicy fruit clones that did well in the 1 gals, but nobody wants juicy.

do you think 321 liter (80 gallon) beds will be enough to do the trick? at least with beds there is a lot less rootbound

An 80 gallon bed for 50 plants about a gallon and a half per plant and would still not be good. You're not really getting it.

 

[EuroToker]

50 plants actually, i do 25 under each light.

the beds give more room for error though no?

 

[Snype]

50 plants actually, i do 25 under each light.

the beds give more room for error though no?

They give less room for error. Think about it, you can't move the plants so if they stretch or get too big and some are smaller in the wrong places, you're stuck. If one plant gets a disese, they all get it and you get 0 pounds. And up top you said 50 plants per bed not 25.

 

[EuroToker]

beds are pretty much the BC commercial industry standard, my location makes it difficult to haul lots of promix bales inside, but i guess i can add some compressed coco to bulk things up

 

[Snype]

Honestly, I don't even know what to say to you anymore. No disrespect but I feel like I'm talking to Yummy Bud. Good night and good luck.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Snype? Excellent advice.


EuroToker? It sounds like you're growing strictly for profit, without doing your homework. Welcome to frustration station #1, all trains depart after homework is finished.

Take one light and one strain. Grow a crop while you read up on the boards. Look for the larger grow ops that are pulling successful harvests back to back. You're using promix... so look for successful promix users.

Once you can get consistent harvests, back to back, with one light and one strain... that matches the weight you're looking for.... THEN run the rest of your lights and setup.

Until then.... please don't try completely changing how you do things... dial in one method first.

Personally.... if I'm going to shoot myself in the foot, I'd rather it only be one bullet. Please don't shoot yourself with every light in your possession, every run, until you figure it out. M'Kay?

Stay Safe!

 

[EuroToker]

Embarrassingly I've been running 20x600w for the last 4 years without problem, not spectacular yields, but decent. Starting to feel like I was lucky about the PH at that particular spot.
Like most commercial Neanderthals, I learn as problems come up, I dont get my PHD first.

Anyhow now I'm stuck trying to dial in purple kush. I'm pretty sure substrate volume and PH are my only issues.
It is a pain in the ass strain, but it is the commercial mainstay right now which means retards with a lot less experience than me are getting decent yeilds.

 

[Snype]

Embarrassingly I've been running 20x600w for the last 4 years without problem, not spectacular yields, but decent. Starting to feel like I was lucky about the PH at that particular spot.
Like most commercial Neanderthals, I learn as problems come up, I dont get my PHD first.

Anyhow now I'm stuck trying to dial in purple kush. I'm pretty sure substrate volume and PH are my only issues.
It is a pain in the ass strain, but it is the commercial mainstay right now which means retards with a lot less experience than me are getting decent yeilds.

If you got 20 x 600's fly me out there and I'll get you 18 pounds minimum per crop.

 

[Biatchzxz]

Snype. Exactly right. With that setup u can get sick yields. Dude doesn't understand we want to help him but if we don't have pictures either. It's tough to help without getting the right info or pictures. Also dude if you didn't know what LST after 4 years of growing then I don't how if u know enough. I mean listen dude not trying to be an asshols but truth is there's a ton of info on her u can find to help you before u ask a question that's missing a lot of informrion to help us help you. Anyone dude sorry if we come across as dicks but we get upset at questions with no info to help us answer u. Pics would be amazing! Anyway good luck dude

U can get a gram a watt if I'm not mistaken

 

[reckon]

I just got half pound per light with purple kush clones using promix, only thing I can think of besides the fact the clones may have been shit was that maybe the PH was too high? does the dolomite adjust for a too high ph or just for an acidic ph?? apparantly the tapwater plus nutrients here is around 10, should I be adjusting before watering?

I really need a pound per light or more

10ph in tap water!?!?!?!

where do you live, in a limestone quarry?

you could strip off paint with water that alkaline! (14.0 is pure alkaline)

holy crap!,....you do NOT need any lime with a PH that friggin high.

when I STOPPED using tap water, is when I started getting 1lb+ per 1000W harvest.

 

[darksith]

found out what LST is, would topping be a better bet considering I have a few hundred to deal with? last time around under the light I topped, i got way way better results than the ones that I didn't

ok, Im gonna give you a super head start. You want to do a stadium grow, no reflectors or shades, 7 plants per light, circle them around the plants. Flip them at around 2-2.5' tall. Get your pH fixed, I can't believe you got 1/2 pound with that pH. Do Not top purple kush! You won't get much more than 1p per light with the PK, trim the very bottoms of the plants, but not too much b/c of the stadium style of grow. Follow these instructions and you should get 1p per light, I know lots of peeps that do this and thats what they are pulling.

Bigger roots = bigger buds in soil.

no necessarily, and it all depends on veg time. I know lots of peeps that do 1 gallon pots and get 1p per 600w.

This time around I would like to put them in beds, 321 liters of promix per 4x8 lighted area, with 50 plants in each bed.

Don't do this, trust me.