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The ultimate: Other plants you can grow amongst your cannabis garden -thread.

san2

Member
Hi guys, search didnt really give any results for this matter, or anything productive atleast so i thought its about time icmag growers get information about how to max out their grows with other usefull plants. I mean why not use all the light youre getting cause youre probably paying for it.

People could post what they have growing or what you could grow. Abit about it; for example:

1- Name (preferably a common name, not something only known in america or europe)

2- What its good for (foods, herb uses etc.)

3- Abit about the growing (special attention a marijuana grower might not know about)
- light cycles/ light need
- temps
- soil type
- watering
- nutrients

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Ill start the list of, people can feel free to add ones ill be listing with their own added info and opinions, all my fact are not always correct.

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1- Chili

2- Good to spice up even the dullest of foods, becomes quite an addiction. As many different strains as there is of marijuana. Doesnt have to make food too hot to eat, even little amounts make food taste better without the burn, even though your tolerance will go up.

3-

- Chilis need just the same light as cannabis, they dont mind about the cycle though, the more light the better with chilis aswell.

- Same temps as marijuana

- Same soil, not too packed, about the same ph. The bigger pots the more chilis and bigger plants.

- Watering and nutes the same as ganja

- When there are enough flowers on the plants (usually when buds form they are plucked off before the plant is the desired size) when you decide the plant is big enough you can help it start flowering by giving a flowering fertilizer. When flowers open with a paint brush swivel its around inside all the flowers more than once, and do it evertime new flowers form. They will get pollinated and start turning into chilis!

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1- Tomato

2- Everyone probably knows what its good for, one of the worlds most used fruit! Pasta sauce, salsa, salads... and the list goes on.

3-

- Tomatos need alot of light, light cycle is the same too (18 - 24 for veg and 12/12 for flowering)

- Same temperatures, maybe abit lower.

- Same soil, add some calcium and magnesium at every transplant. Same ph. Like cannabis, the bigger the pot the more to harvest.

- Watering about the same, maybe requires a little less. Abit stronger nutrient needs.

- Will start flowering at 60 - 80 days, depending on variety. Most start with 12/12 though, but need to be a certain age, 2 months veg is good.

- To pollinate well (correlates with how big tomatos you get) you will have to make the branches and flowers vibrate and let the most amount of pollen out as possible. Ive read that an electric tooth brush can do the job.

- Some tomato varieties grow vine like things from the leaf axials, these should be pruned off as they appear.

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Ill continue the list little by little as i read more and get more into it. One thats really interesting me are grapes, heard it wouldnt be impossible.

Cmon guys, everyone who wants to and likes growing other stuff too, this is your place to contribute. If everyone just puts one plant, we might soon have a long little handbook from which to choose something else to try. Who knows what cool plants even exist.

:wave:
 

san2

Member
Im not only talking about veggies, just happens to be my area of interest. Many people have less ordinary plants in their grows like salvia. I dont know what else people have, but i wanna find out. Thats kinda the idea of the post really.

Some people here also live in places where its very cold outside (believe it or not) and cannabis laws are harsh. So the amount of plants cant be big and selling the weed is completely out of the question. Also in these remote places its often hard to get good fresh veggies and the bad ones are very expensive too.

There are so many different people and so many stories. My own is that due to the situation in my life its better to not have anything the laws in my country rate as illegal, for some time (if it was only the law i wouldnt mind, but now theres family and other relationships at risk). So ill just have to let the chilis take over!

Im sure theres other people here who grow for personal use, and dont need those 300g harvests every 2 months so they have one or two plants and most of the time alot of space is left over. Im sure again amongst these people there are culinary enthusiasts and plant freaks whos main interest is maybe not the weed. I even know people who have grow rooms for other things and just have a couple of cannabis plants in the corner for entertainment.

Please bare in mind, not all forum users live in america and not all see cannabis as their lives only goal. Many people just like smoking and growing a couple of plants for self consumption and dont give it that much attention (im not one of these, if it was up to me i would carry on with my breeding projects biiig scale untill the end of times... and i like the smoke too) =)

Im not saying offtopic comments arent wellcome, but you get the point. Maybe ill just keep making this thread for myself, and then one day i and evryone else who wants will have a good archive of the matter.

If people arent bothered to give such detailed information about the growing, they could atleast list what they have or have had in their grow with success.
 
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san2

Member
How does the opium get along danky? How does it deal with the high temps, seems to require cold temps to germinate atleast no?
 

Dr.Dank

Cannabis 101
Veteran
How does the opium get along danky? How does it deal with the high temps, seems to require cold temps to germinate atleast no?

yeah germinate in cooler temps... I have some out door and some in the flower room feed em the same nuts as all the other cannabis plants and they love it I feed em General Hydroponics 3 part:dance013:.
 

san2

Member
Tru dat!

Anyone know what temps grapes like and light cycle. I heard that grapes only make fruit on their 3rd year round but also heard there are some varieties that make them on their 1st, is this true?
 
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dobo

Member
Nice thread! I'm glad you mentioned chilli's I've got some haberno's, wildfire and thai sweet chilli plants to save after winter, thats awesome that it's same as growing green! Anyone grown strawberrys with your plants?
 

reckon

Member
I used to scatter clover seed over the pots to get a blanket of clover on the soil
1) holds moisture better
2) clover develops tasty little nitrogen laden nodules along the root structure, which your plants eat
3) at harvest you turn the clover under, and re-mix the soil returning it's N to the soil

I should start that up again, the plants LOVE growing in clover

I also grow tomatoes, and baby/sprout lettuces and wheat grass (for both myself and the cats),......I have two "herb boxes", one is the french box, with chervil, tarragon and thyme, the other is the italian box with basil, marjoram and sage,....I have separate clay pots for the parsley, chives and cilantro,....all of this sits on a shelf inside the grow area (takes no cannabis space) with the top shelves receiving only indirect light: lettuces, sprouts, and wheat grass, and the middle where the herb boxes are, and the lowers for the cherry tomato plants.

I LOVE having the herbs right there, ready to use, and you only pick what you need, so no more jars of water with a bunch of cilantro stuck in it, in the fridge, or $3 boxes of thyme rotting/drying because you don't use it that often.

I can't imagine cooking any other way now
 

san2

Member
Keep it up guys.

Reckon: Yeh ive heard of growing a clover cover on the soil, it works with some other grasses too. Its called permaculture or something like that no? Regulates the nitrogen in the soil by taking it from the air, apparently works the other way too taking excess nitrogen out of the soil storing it in the clover. Pretty usefull actually, should read more on that.
 

dobo

Member
San 2 : I tried to make this as easy to understand as possible :)
The nitrogen that's freely available in the air cannot be used by the plants because it's not in the right form to be absorbed by plants. There are some plants that can convert the nitrogen into a plant available form these are called legumes (nitrogen fixing plants) clover,peas ect.. these plants harbour a bacteria that lives inside the roots in a symbiotic relationship (they help each other out) intrestingly enough they create a web like structure that adsorbs + absorbs nutrients which allows for a quicker uptake of nutrients as the root structure has been modified.They convert the nitrogen thats in the air to a plant available form of N which is ammonium & nitrites.

Heres a good diagram that shows the cycle.

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Theres also a Phosphorus cycle thats very similar but the P in the soil gets bound up in the soil by charged ion's making it plant unavaiable, thats why farmers often ariel spray P onto the land.

It's well worth a read about the Cation exchange capacity of soil and how everything works by positively and negatively charge ion's...have a smoke kick back and learn some valuable info!

Hope this was some value to my fellow growers :)
 
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