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lysol

As I said I water my coco daily. This is how I try to drain all the runoff. I drilled holes in the bottom and bottom sides, the bucket should be held diagonal until runoff slows to 1 drop per minute. Even then, up to an hour later you could have a pint of water sitting in the bottom, as shown in these pics. Drainage is really important. This one even had perlite.

 
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lysol

Coming along good. Having some clawing from feeding too high (600ppm) despite numerous people advising me to go to 1,000ppm

Done humoring them, I'm a leaf reader now.

I'm lowering to 400ppm and at the growth tips I can see it coming out a better (less dark) green already. Also when I lowered ec my "deficiencies" are slowing down.

 
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looking good bro, the switch to coco worked out well
 
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lysol said:
Coming along good. Having some clawing from feeding too high (600ppm) despite numerous people advising me to go to 1,000ppm

Done humoring them, I'm a leaf reader now.

I'm lowering to 400ppm and at the growth tips I can see it coming out a better (less dark) green already. Also when I lowered ec my "deficiencies" are slowing down.
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some plants (especially s-doms) 'claw' like that genetically.
the ppms may not be issue, but maybe, the ph?

if take ph down to 5.0-5.7, may get more micro-nutrients into plant.
providing additional magnesium (1/4-1 tsp epsom salts) &/or calcium (1/4-1 tsp calcium nitrate), separately, may get plant leaves look un-clawed;)

if can get thru entire season w/ >500ppm, :yes:... though s-dom may like more ppms to get large, bountiful flowers @ weeks 9-10...

enjoy your garden!
 
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lysol said:
Hey mistress, thanks for the tips. h3ad says he cuts the micro completely which decreases yield, but increases taste. I heard they are supposed to go N def. halfway thru, and I've barely had any leafs yellow on me, so I'm trying to get her to at least show signs of hunger.
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fnb & maxi...
bottle instruction for full strength. either.

taste seems more about 1) last week of plant life, 2) harvest 3) curing.
Do you think I would have better results doing that with plain water rather then following h3ad's schedule?
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? unknown.
never tried any formulas, other than full strength bottle instructions... & then to specific cultivars needs.

why move the plant?
those flowers should be fine, resting against a wall. that does not harm plant, to use wall for support.

I was thinking, maybe instead of taking the side branches early, I wrap her up in twine so she can fit thru doorways again.
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can also remove 1/3 of the branches, now... that have little to no flowers on them.
& remove all other inner-flowers, leaving only tops.

looks as though it was not trained/pruned/thinned @ all.
could easily get rid of 25% of plant that is not in shape to gives any quantity of flowers, & make it so that remainder performs to best.

nutrients are difficult to measure from garden to garden... as ea plant requires different balances.
 
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why don't you just use a cheap plastic tray for runoff? its only one plant... I use a big yellow sponge to soak up runoff takes like 10 seconds. you don't want to move the plant I used to always do that but can notice now that I don't, a big improvement. it stresses them, i don't even like rotating my plants even a little bit anymore.

i use heads formula, with slight modifications/additions but can't ever just drop my micro half way. I have to ease off of it at the very least or I'll have no leaves to speak of in 2-3 weeks. i understand ur taste/ quality concern as it is personal smoke, but coco flushes very quickly. half way thru flower i drop to 5 micro, then 4 micro, then 3 micro, etc.. 2 weeks b4 flower i drop it completely and the last week is just water. 1 week flush is more then plenty i have found, unless u want the leaves dying off into the buds

oh and with coco, i have found that I have to jar up my buds 1-2 days quicker then soil, b4 the stem completely snaps, or they end up over dry, because they are flushed so well

anyways I like what you have goin on here and glad coco saved ur girl. it looks happy!
 
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lysol said:
To the shower for runoff. I looked into putting a tray down to collect runoff (I have carpet). They were all like $200 designed for ebb & flow. Taking to the shower allows me to easily go to runoff. Unfortunately its too big to do that every day like I've been.
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smallest pond pump @ home improve store, in lower bucket (that catches run off)... pump connected to 1/2" vinyl tube, that empties into another bucket.
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Yeah I agree, but until I can figure out how to water to runoff without moving it from the room, I dunoo..
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see ^... just get cheapo 10-15 coin pump from fish/general store. place in lower bucket & pump into second bucket.
Hmm, I see why you'd say that (stretchy) but according to them its an indica hybrid (sk*nk x citral)*** 8 to 9 weeks.
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it is not the stretch that confirms s-dominance, it is the plant pictured. the growth structure & flower structure are @ least 40-60% s-influenced.

they may state that plant may be done in 8 weeks, but highly unlikely...

the if sampling that plant, maybe wait until @ least 60-63 days, or 9 wks... maybe full mature @ 70.

most i's go to 63. most s go until @ least 70 days.
sk is a hybrid & citral is a taller i... but maybe their citral is already a hybrid.
maybe another gardenr chime in, that have worked s & i... & hybrids of both...

for what citral leaves/growth look like, see ace citral k!sh.

that plant is not anywhere near i-dom. there may be 25-30%, but that it.:2cents:
Well the way I plan to do it is take it in sections. See my attachment, the parts in the red circle labeled "stage 1" I will take at about 8 weeks. The rest I will leave to over ripen (more of a couch lock). By taking it in stages I beleive I have a change to increase my overall grams.
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another manner would be to make sure no 'stage 2' exist... then, all of the energy goes to the meat of the plant.
if do it in those stages, the 'stage 2' will require @ least another 10-14 days, to reach the maturity level of the 'stage 1'.
over 8 weeks will not over-ripen that plant... that plant is bare minimum 9 weeks. anything prior to that would not be best expression of the fruit:2cents: regardless of what the comp claims the lineage is... that particular pheno is very much a s. plant.

if ever ran pure i's, or even 60% i-doms, would immediately note that.
Actually I pruned the hell of out it funnily enough. It has just recovered more than I could ever have hoped. At one point I cut the plant down to like 1/3rd of it's size a few weeks before I flipped it.
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it is not so much about pruning it a lot... but thinning & pruning to the strengths of ea plant.
the entire section labeld 'stage 2' could be absent, leaving only trained tops to max-out.
far too much inner growth, close to the stem/branch internode - especially for a s.
What do you consider "starting to flower"? When the buds start to close up into a cola? I usually count day 1 when I see pistils/pre flowers.
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not really about counting days...
about taking the plant to their full maturity...

if the plant is from seed, abandon the label claim for days/weeks.
also, a seeplant will take longer to mature than the clone of the same plant, maybe by 7-14 days...

but, fwiw, have yet to find a plant that was fully mature in under 60 days... @ least mature enough that *mistress* views no new reproductive organs.
this can be altered by many environmental factors, give/take 3-5 days, but generally, when 99% amber.
when all p!s/t!ls fully withered.

some prefer to pick eariler, but to *mistress*, that is total waste.
just wait until it is done.

some like stages, or to 'dead-head' the plant, like roses.. but prefer to wait until lowest flowers are fully mature & withered/coated in amber.
then... maybe... the next day:) just to make sure.
 
greenatik

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home depot has the trays as well as hydro stores. there's nice ones $10 and cheap ones 1-2$.

I didn't realize how much water you were flushing through it. do you always water with a lot of runoff? I use to water with more runoff before but have since minimized my watering and am seeing similar results, if not slightly better in quality, as I have in the past. more frequent; hand watering once a day lights on, and a half water thru drip system night time... but not to runoff. I'll flush every other week with a flushing agent (florakleen), with a little runoff, filling the little tray half way, and pound the nutes back on em.

the sponge works good for me but a bucket-head wet/dry vac seems to be popular among other icmagers, and pretty cheap too

but there's more then one way to skin the coco-cat that's for sure. just sharin my experiences and trials with it !

well im here to watch the show and see some buddin action

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lysol

greenatik said:
do you always water with a lot of runoff?
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It depends. Not always, but if I water for a week with minimal runoff, I like to followup with one with a lot of runoff to just make sure (those salt build ups are my worst enemy)

In other news taking mistress' recommendation for the flush I think is paying off big time. The bud tips look healthier. Also I just wanted to say I know what immature bud looks like, so if it really is immature I won't do it at 8 weeks then, but I'm hoping it will be ready for sample. I am doing 2 stages, the idea is to let stage 2 ripen a lot longer to increase my overall yield. You are also right about the popcorn buds but I think pruning past 2 weeks in flower is counter productive
 
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