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Hello IC mag, I have a brainstorm for you. I have a somewhat unusual closet (literally a Water Closet or WC as they are called in Europe) that I am thinking about growing in. I want to hear your ideas about how you would use this space to have the most efficient, easy to care for, fool-proof wayto yield as much and as fast as possible. For what it's worth, this would be my first grow, and I want to keep it relatively simple and fool proof.
Here is a Sketchup model with some measurements. Note the hump on the wall that sticks out about 6" and is 14" wide.
As you can see I have a pretty odd but versatile space here with a lot of height. I'd love to remove the toilet to free up space and vent exhaust down the sewer, but I've decided against it for multiple reasons that I wont get into right now. This complicates things a little but should be workable. The toilet is functional and at the very least, it is nice and convenient for runoff and eliminating evidence quickly if necessary. The best I can come up with is some sort of tray "table" that will go over the toilet, possibly with the seat up or removed. To make good use of the space with it in there, I could perhaps build a small mother/veg/clone chamber in front of the toilet where your legs would be if you were using it. On the other hand, having that inside my flower chamber seems kind of risky for light leaks etc. Sure, I could have many levels of shelves etc. but I don't really feel like having all those lights, drilling all kinds of holes in the wall and cutting shelves around that weird hump you can see on the pisser's right (if you're a guy, left if you're a girl, or pooper's left haha) or building a 6' tall loft around the toilet and having to stand on a ladder to mess with plants way up at the top.
Now on to the window. It's kind of both a curse and blessing at the same time. A curse because it needs to be light sealed, and a blessing because without it, there's really no other way to exchange air in this space.
The window is double vertical sliding. That is, both the upper and lower halves slide, allowing a gap at the top and bottom. The actual window glass/opening area is about 11"x54". I'm pretty sure the bottom opening is going to be a passive intake and the top exhaust.
What I am thinking about doing here is building "window boxes" that will go into the openings at the top and bottom of the window, with kinked ports to block light, and of course the middle blocked off with a layer of foam or something. The window is high up and doesnt face a street or anything, just a small courtyard alley of a big building, so if I do it right it shouldn't really be very conspicuous in the unlikely event someone scrutinizes this air shaft. I have a very rough idea of what this would be like, but this is where I am hoping you can help me out. I need some ideas and examples for these.
Power will be supplied by the light fixture, converted to outlets. This is awesome because with some yo-yo's, it will make for a very clean setup with no cords hanging down. I'll just have to reach up to adjust the timers. Hopefully it can support the hardware I want to run, which I'm pretty certain is a 400w in a cooltube, vented through a 6" 400+CFM centrifugal fan. Power allowing, I also have plenty of space to use fans to circulate the air, blow onto the plants, and excessive temps shouldn't been as much of a concern.
On to growing styles...
I've been planning on starting with good ol' soil since I'm a noob. I might be able to squeeze 3 5 gal buckets in there, maybe 4 but I don't think so. A bunch of small square pots would probably work well also. The presence of a toilet for runoff and all that height makes me think about the potential for just 2 hempy bucket monsters, although I'm not sure if that's a great or terrible idea for a beginner. It seems like a vertical SCROG, vertical light setup could work well in here, especially if one wanted to get a lot out of a few big sativas, but I'm a noob and will be starting with Afghan, so am not sure if that's a good idea either. I plan on just LST and topping for this first run.
Please share your ideas and feedback.
Thanks!
Here is a Sketchup model with some measurements. Note the hump on the wall that sticks out about 6" and is 14" wide.
As you can see I have a pretty odd but versatile space here with a lot of height. I'd love to remove the toilet to free up space and vent exhaust down the sewer, but I've decided against it for multiple reasons that I wont get into right now. This complicates things a little but should be workable. The toilet is functional and at the very least, it is nice and convenient for runoff and eliminating evidence quickly if necessary. The best I can come up with is some sort of tray "table" that will go over the toilet, possibly with the seat up or removed. To make good use of the space with it in there, I could perhaps build a small mother/veg/clone chamber in front of the toilet where your legs would be if you were using it. On the other hand, having that inside my flower chamber seems kind of risky for light leaks etc. Sure, I could have many levels of shelves etc. but I don't really feel like having all those lights, drilling all kinds of holes in the wall and cutting shelves around that weird hump you can see on the pisser's right (if you're a guy, left if you're a girl, or pooper's left haha) or building a 6' tall loft around the toilet and having to stand on a ladder to mess with plants way up at the top.
Now on to the window. It's kind of both a curse and blessing at the same time. A curse because it needs to be light sealed, and a blessing because without it, there's really no other way to exchange air in this space.
The window is double vertical sliding. That is, both the upper and lower halves slide, allowing a gap at the top and bottom. The actual window glass/opening area is about 11"x54". I'm pretty sure the bottom opening is going to be a passive intake and the top exhaust.
What I am thinking about doing here is building "window boxes" that will go into the openings at the top and bottom of the window, with kinked ports to block light, and of course the middle blocked off with a layer of foam or something. The window is high up and doesnt face a street or anything, just a small courtyard alley of a big building, so if I do it right it shouldn't really be very conspicuous in the unlikely event someone scrutinizes this air shaft. I have a very rough idea of what this would be like, but this is where I am hoping you can help me out. I need some ideas and examples for these.
Power will be supplied by the light fixture, converted to outlets. This is awesome because with some yo-yo's, it will make for a very clean setup with no cords hanging down. I'll just have to reach up to adjust the timers. Hopefully it can support the hardware I want to run, which I'm pretty certain is a 400w in a cooltube, vented through a 6" 400+CFM centrifugal fan. Power allowing, I also have plenty of space to use fans to circulate the air, blow onto the plants, and excessive temps shouldn't been as much of a concern.
On to growing styles...
I've been planning on starting with good ol' soil since I'm a noob. I might be able to squeeze 3 5 gal buckets in there, maybe 4 but I don't think so. A bunch of small square pots would probably work well also. The presence of a toilet for runoff and all that height makes me think about the potential for just 2 hempy bucket monsters, although I'm not sure if that's a great or terrible idea for a beginner. It seems like a vertical SCROG, vertical light setup could work well in here, especially if one wanted to get a lot out of a few big sativas, but I'm a noob and will be starting with Afghan, so am not sure if that's a good idea either. I plan on just LST and topping for this first run.
Please share your ideas and feedback.
Thanks!
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Hmm that doesn't sound right though, seems like a 6" would be better for cooling/odor, especially pulling and pushing through those two vents and carbon scrubber.
