m-39, space queen gifted cut, jillybean, and star trek

[Billy Burroughs]

the other strain i had in there was a space queen from seed so far 5 seeds cracked and 3 males cracking the last 2 as we speak i started them this morning luckfully i gotta brother that somewhat watches over me even sending me the tga cut from there very own garden of space queen or i woulda been up shit creek with that one the ones from seed at first sexing have all showed femal but once they get to the flower room everything changes and it turn into a hermaphodite plants maybe its a real hard cookie when it comes to it's natural survival well heres some pics first 2 are jilly bean next is space queen then i believe another space queen its looking like im going to have to make another post to get the pic of the m-39 in there i also had to chop down a space queen that i'd been growing it for oh 3-4 months and it goes total herm on me had both male and female all over the place never seen anything alike it i put it in a plactic garbage bad and a zip lok and the trash goes in the am





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[Billy Burroughs]

the m-39

the m-39

ok heres the m-39 and i think maybe aomse pics of the flower room im always open for feedback and heres the m-39 im hating i spent all that time to get a male my first one so far every seed well except one other but i was expecting this one to i wasnt expecting a space queen straight from the breeder to do this but who knows heres the pics

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ok that should cover everything i got going in the flower room im going to see if i can add some of the room itself
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hope this gives a bettter idea what i got going on

 

[Vegan]

very nice billy ..lookin sweet so far..

i like the rigid ducting thing happnin,,that must cut way down on the cfm needed to cool them lights..do you have the fan turned all the way up ?

let see some yield/quality on those bad boys

 

[Billy Burroughs]

i do atm just simply because the guy i sent up thewre to hook up the dimmer couldnt follow simple instructions i havent got the dimmer installed yet if your going to buy a dimmer dont waste the money on the ones from hydro store the ones for 4 bucks at home depot or lowes work just as well as long as the monkey your trying to train wants to listen but typically no i run it half speed and that was just one light though and never had a problem but i havent got the dimmer installed yet to see will soon enough im to fat to get my ass up there this next time im going to wire it all hes going to have to do is connect black hot white neutral bare ground well ud think but some ppl just dont get it so like i said imma make it dip shit proof so i gotta vortex 8 inch fan got 6 inch to the fan and 8 inch coming out the back end for about 3 feet then attached to my carbon scrubber can 50 you saw most if it right got the basic idea much better way of doing it fuck that flex pipe thats all crap one thing my twin brother being a heating and ac guy just told me the main thing you wanna think of is air as water and say how is water going to flow through this sweet calm n relaxed or am i going to have near misses all over but ya the fans way over on cfm's for what im doing but like i said id rather have it and not need it than need n not have im willing to bet with even one more light in the run2 lights i could still run half way and still keep my temps way below 70 almost rarely over 65 with lights on so and during summer time im not going to have to insulate beings ill be pulling cool air to begin with unlike last garden it was in outdoor building so i had to use that 115 degree air to kool my hood i pulled through deffinatelly moving right on up there with this grow got enough cash to buy another 1000 watt hps bulb n hood 436 but i also want to get a high out put RO like a merlin and im going to buy a chiller to do the hydros when i get there so thats deffinatelly on back burner for now im going to get third light in rock a few harvests then hopefully have the dough to buy the set up for at least one 4 x 4 table just a lil ebb n flo see how it works for me my brothers doing awesome with it using same nutes as you brother slowly but surelly comin along im sorry about the space queen sucks for me too i had to toss a shit ton of clones too my sister in law doesnt like me so im sure she done it on purpose fukn bitch whatever go fight with your husband leave me out of it and if this cut doesnt come i always got either 5 or a 10 pack of them whatever

 

[Billy Burroughs]

but ya im going to be running a dimmer as soon as i can get this explained to my father in law and drawn on paper we might instal that this weekend to be hones theres nothing to it white wire goes to plug black wire goes to dimmer switch green wire out of plug to bare with wire nut and the other black wire coming out the dimmer switch goes to the otherside of your plug in almost easier than whipped cream pie

 

[socbutter]

Wanna see what happens with these babies

 

[Billy Burroughs]

new pics

new pics

ok thought id update with some new pics we'll start with the m-39

now jillybean

star trek

and heres the space queen

 

[Billy Burroughs]

dimmer switch

dimmer switch

ok so i finally got one instaled the classic 4 dollar one cause my momma didnt raise no sucker but i can run it at half speed my temps are a lil higher like 1-2 degrees and lights on fan going full force on three lights i can get down into the low 50's with lights off and nothing over 68 lights on at half speed it only heats up 2 more degrees but thats still more to cool so i run it turned up as far as it can go id rather have it cooler that and im sure its a lil cheaper to run it on the cold side beings we've been having this great weather for las vegas anyways these past few weeks this next crop is going to be something special i assure it took me a lil while to work out my kinks which really i think was just bad placement of my ac unit on my other garden i cant think of anything else it coulda been the sun had to be shining through it because i run the same genetics in my new gardens and notta problem one samething with the ones you ran vegan notta problem one so im bringing the agent orange x jtr back out and the 3D for my next grow do it some justice they come from a reputable company in my eyes i dont care for its leader much but hey who does

 

[socbutter]

Sweet looking girls

 

[sackoweed]

billyB
Howzit..?? Your garden is looking good my brother.. What is in star trek? And how are the jilly as for potentcy? Be back later to peep your updates.. peace and puffs..

sackO

 

[teddybud]

Looking good!

 

[Billy Burroughs]

billyB
Howzit..?? Your garden is looking good my brother.. What is in star trek? And how are the jilly as for potentcy? Be back later to peep your updates.. peace and puffs..

sackO

true organics and RO water i dunno i only "feed" my plants twice i feed a worm tea and a liquid bone meal on day 30 and day 45 all the rest is all in the soil and im more than willing to share soil recipe that is just ask if your interested it's going to sound just to good to be true but it's really this damn easy if you can read a ph pen and ph water your set and you got good water or an RO i'd suggest a merlin just got one best thing ive bought to date and i run 3K in lights

 

[Billy Burroughs]

day 45

day 45

ok heres a few pics couldnt really get in there to get any better im wall to wall bud oh ya the star trek is sensi star x trainwreck not bad kinda looking to be a low yielder though real short and stocky through out veg but heres some pics at day 45 first ones are of the star trek

now the jillybean this ones stalk is justa monster this ones gotta lotta bud on it im real happy with it i was told this is tga's most bitched about strain but ive gotta say i havent had any problems in the one seed outta 10 ive cracked so far in fact at this point no point cracking anymore i'll just sit on them this pheno i ended up with i can just tell it's wanting to make bigger buds next time i need to prune it up some more and it's going to be on point im sure but it's still pretty damn nice and is still going to yield a decent amount of pot it's a monster

now heres the m-39 and this ones starting to become kinda a let down its nothing but buds but they just dont seem to want to grow any longer but they are swelling and packing on weight its a great smelling herb but i think if i have room for it next run ill let it go but if theres not enough room ill wait till next run to run it again i cant wait to taste the original beaster strain actually grown out right and dried and cured properly it's going to be about 6-8 good sized nuggets im going to get off it i hope it's punch is as good as its aroma all of these plants are super funky i dont know how im not getting smells outside at all cant smell it anywhere i knew i was doing right by insulating that dividing wall anyways heres the m-39 aka the beasters yes the original

well thats all i got for pics at the moment here very soon we're going to have an awesome harvest best one ive pulled down here in nevada anyways pretty stoked on it i was almost giving up on the soil mix my brother and alot of our buddies back home use and have huge success' im not quite up to par with my brothers growing abilities but he's been growing for going on at least 8 years if not 10 but it took me awhile to just get midevil on the plants asses with the pruining going into flower with alot of the genetics i got will really produce very well if pruned propwerlly and will even do good when not totally peuined as they should but it's taken me about a year to kinda figure out that balance it's hard being a grower with very little help just kinda gotta remeber the things we done before somethings anyways just not using peter's for nutes anymore lol that and pot of gold soil one with the red flower lol we'd grow 100-200 at a time so we didnt care what they yielded doing this right takes alot more work than people give credit for because lets face it theres tons of people out there that have no business even growing pot and id be willing to bet most of them that are doing it here in nevada are illegal when its so easy to get a card here more less you got the money ok ur good

 

[Billy Burroughs]

mmk just about harvest time

mmk just about harvest time

be doing this in the am got more pics too but at the momement i wanted to show off this plant i got here and say shit whatcha got on these purps lol only from temp swings strains called jillybean a tga genetic looks like its going to hold a monster amount of bud 4 ounces at least if not 5 or 6 its got 4 real fat at the bottom colas plus about 15 other smaller ones but still good sized and dense as a rock even wet this is going to be some killer smoke my brothers alreay harrassing me for a cut so he dont have to crack any of his jilly beans i'll oblidge just because he could crack everyone he has and not get this pheno and i'd say this is the one your going to want if your growing this strain but if or i should say when i crack more seeds of it we'll be able to tel if theres a better pheno out there im doubting it so heres a couple pics of tga's jillybean at day 57 or 58:

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there for a good week or two this plant smelled so foul real sour smell to it if there woulda been any water in my drip trays and all were dry i smelled it up close as i did with all the rest and up close it smell super dank but 12-6 inches away smells like soured milk almost but ya this is going to be some killer pot would you all believe me if i grew this plant with nothing but soil and water well it's almost true i dont use nutes i do use a few i use a liquid bone meal and molasses and carbs and a worm tea the worm tea and the liquid bone meal only get fed on day 30 and day 45 thats it and the plants entire life up until the 30th day of flower they had nothing poured on them but ph'd water i like to start with a high ph of about 7.2 for my water for the first 30 days this brings your soil ph up a tad so the last 30 days you merely switch from ph up to ph down and start in the general area until you get your first reading after your first reading it shouldnt take but putting the ph adjuster in and re phing it and then if its good pour this way my last 30 days of flower my ph levels are always under 6.0 typically in the 5.5-6.0 ramges and the lower phd water evens things out so that your last part of flower your ph levels will stay in that optimum growth range of 6.1 - 6.3 for us soil guys the great thing about the mix i use is how forgiving and versatile it is i can run hydro ph levels all the way through no problems plus have the range of a soil grow as well this gives you a huge ph buffer ie when i pour my first bit of water on my plants i ph to about 7.0-7.2 and it's not untypical to have run off ph readings at or below 5.0 4.8 is the lowest its ever been and my plants love it they've never shown any sign of a burning or anything except once i take that back i had read teaming with microbes and its an awesome book and awesome way it lays out organic gardening i was making my own fairly balanced EWC teas and watering with it the first month or so plants loved it then i had a ph pen go defective on me and i didnt realize it until everything had already been watered with the tea anyways killed almost everything and was barelly able to salvage anything out of that grow but 3 made a come back after repeatedly being flushed the rest died and the tea wasnt at fault the ph was but because of this i stopped making the tea and what not one it stinks and 2 i live in nevada and it attracts cocroaches like you wouldnt believe not the lil guys in ur house the big 6 inch long bastards so fast it's almost immpossible to kill one and the fact that it was adding one more process to my routine that could possiblly have something go wrong like it did and loose out in the end so i just removed that step it's a great way to have a killer soil base but theers just to much risk theres enough in watering alone why add to it well i'll get more pics up after i get the harvest down and trimmed hope ya enjoyed my "purples" lol purple this purple that really ive smoked several purps and nothing sttod out and said you have to have me so i figured id give it one more shot theni'm done with the purps a guy i used to work with grew GDP's and he swore by it even harvested 5 pounds from 2 lights in 4 rdwc crusty buckets but not one plant per bucket 4 plants per bucket with 2 1000 watt HPS lights total liar he used advanced nutes for one thing that right there tells ya his intelligence level but ya it was decent pot but it was never purple and i dunno if his rooms were just to hot or what but his rooms were always in the 80's and somedays in the 100's because he wouldnt instal a window ac unit i tried to help this guy out even got him an appointment to get his card and ya know what he did slept in and didnt go guess who came knockng about 5 or 6 days later yup john t law and i told him the neighbors are going to turn him in because he'd leacve his back door open and what not and pretty uch have the weed kinding hanging right there you could smell it smell it from the driver side of my car that was parked on the street he'd went out and bought a can filter to get rid of the smell but didnt know how to use it i tried to show him but he didnt wanna hear it he's the expert around here just ask him so he had this can filter sitting in the middle of a room that he had the bud in then bought a vortex 8 inch fan ya 300 dollar fan and just set the fan on top of the can filter and couldnt figure out why it wasnt working i tried again to explain how carbon scrubbers work and once again he's the fucking engineer here one of them types only get themselves in the end lol this is they guy when i first moved here from eugene ya know for a quarter ounce there i was paying 50 bucks for dank when i came here and i asked for an ounce the guy told me 480 dollars and showed me the weed total what us kids from the pacific northwest call this kinda shit weed work anyways there wil be more pics to come and hopefully we can get some more ppl to respond or even look at my thread lol no one but me has posted on this in fricking weeks months well enjoy them pics like i said more to come have a great day

 

[guest2012y]

Naked Lunch.............well I'll have to say that those nugs are purple as fuck and coated with glands beyond a reasonable amount.

 

[socbutter]

Love shat you've done with your grow. They look marvelous!

Sorry about not posting but I am tagged and have been keeping up to date on your grow. Can't wait to start growing and using your soil mix when I move to Colorado. The simplicity of you mix just amazes me.

 

[Vegan]

pics are lookin awes ome billy..

how bout some pics for the update..

emerson nice colors ya got cant wait to smoke on some

 

[Billy Burroughs]

lol ya know what ive been so busy latelly and dont have time at the moment but i will get them up there by the end of the week i promise working on car and what not went out this morning to do it and with how fast and hard that wind was blowing 60-70 mph i decided to wait till the wind died this switch better fix this or i'm walking my butt to the store and the bank to get some milk and cash my checks and deposit them

 

[sackoweed]

billyB
Howzit brother..?? Been a bit since i been by.. LOL i asked you what were the parents of star trek and if jilly bean was potent? And you answered me with what you fed the plants tea's and such, no answer to my question lol... stoner... lmfao.. Ill check back and see what ya say.. btw that plant is looking frosty and nice colors as well. peace n pufs.

sackO

 

[Billy Burroughs]

billyB
Howzit brother..?? Been a bit since i been by.. LOL i asked you what were the parents of star trek and if jilly bean was potent? And you answered me with what you fed the plants tea's and such, no answer to my question lol... stoner... lmfao.. Ill check back and see what ya say.. btw that plant is looking frosty and nice colors as well. peace n pufs.

sackO

lol sorry bro i might have confused your post with someone else's or a private message who knows sometimes i hop on after taking my xanax before bed and oh ya i'll type a book and not remeber it log in and be like wow i was loaded that night
but star trek is (sensi star x trainwrek) and jillybean is (orange velvet x space queen) i got the space queen breeder cut from sub's garden my brother has the orange velvet can't wait to get it seems he sends 2 or 3 at a time lets me flower them a few times and when he figures i'm growing good pot with whatever strain he sends me more sub and him used to be real tight almost business partners the jillybean totally purpled out on me due to temp swings i'm sure i gotta bout a 25-30 degree swing from night to day so but it was still pretty as hell made me get out a querkle bean and a few pre 98 bubba x deep purple doja and every pic i've seen of the latter cross even the trichs are purple but all the same as with most purp strains none of them yield worth a shit and personally i'd rather smoke the space queen that or this m-39 i got given to me oldie but man is it a great plant to grow grows into nothing but solid colas somewhere in my albums theres a plant thats nothing but about 6 or 7 meaty colas and that'd be the m-39 the reason i kept it for myself is because it's got that skunk taste that seems to have left with the 90's and i love that taste the star trek strain actually smells like weed beer smells almost like hops but hops being a cousin to marijuana i suppose it could be it smokes killer real smooth real stoney i try not to smoke it unless i'm wanting to nap or go to bed that and the bubble hash got about 20 grams or so of full melt hash from the sugar leaves and it was only half of them i still got a big ass bag in my freezer to run lol i'm loving it it took me sometime to get to this level a lil less than a year thanx to my brothers help and my insistance on taking the money i made from previous harvests and spending it on nothing but my flower room till it's exactally where i want it now i need to get a veg room with a 1000 watt MH with a vebnted hood and i'll have everything even got the merlin RO in case i wanna switch to hydro which i do sooner or later i'm going to grow in this soil for at least another year maybe 2 i don't wanna be like alot of guys that hop straight into hydro and fail miserablly for a good year before they kinda start figuring it out i wanna know everything i can know before i start doing hydro when i do go hydro it'll be ebb and flo tables and probablly coc for my medium that or hydroton deoending which is going to be easiest to manage