Is anyone REALLY surprised by this. all they did was admit to what everyone has known for years.
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Big Pharma researcher admits to faking dozens of research studies for Pfizer, Merck
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and the same people who allow these big pharmas to operate this way are the very same people who are putting peaceful civilians in prison for growing a harmless medicinal plant...
A little story from yesterday.....
When I was going through all my cancer treatment they found out I have an aneurysm on my aortic artery in my heart due to being born with a bi-cuspid aortic valve. The initial solution was come in once a year and we'll see if it has dilated, if so we'll have to operate.
It would arthroscopic surgery (little camera run through the groin to the heart) so not too bad.
Well, it hadn't dilated at all, but he wanted to put me on low blood pressure medicine for the rest of my natural life because a similar genetic condition may have shown some results for stopping dilation with this drug.
He prefaced all this with, "I have this medicine, there are no tests that show it will help your condition, we do not plan on doing any tests, but I think you should take it anyway. If you can't tolerate it we'll adjust it and see if we can get it dialed in."
This is one the best Cardiologist in the United States. My mother and I were floored. Fucking drug dealers all of them. The only reason I'm alive today is because I took myself off the excessive prescriptions they were giving me at the end of treatment. I was caught in a viscous cycle until I got on the herb 100% for my meds. I'm not taking it. If it dilates I'll have the surgery. I don't need your poison.
When we got on the elevator to leave their were two hot ass Pharmacy reps in there. Big boobs selling big drugs. In the four years that I have been going through this, it seems this problem has gotten considerably worse.
I fear we are a nation being destroyed by pills sold as the solution to all of our problems. They have their place, of course, but the abuse is so rampant it's sickening.
When I was going through all my cancer treatment they found out I have an aneurysm on my aortic artery in my heart due to being born with a bi-cuspid aortic valve. The initial solution was come in once a year and we'll see if it has dilated, if so we'll have to operate.
It would arthroscopic surgery (little camera run through the groin to the heart) so not too bad.
Well, it hadn't dilated at all, but he wanted to put me on low blood pressure medicine for the rest of my natural life because a similar genetic condition may have shown some results for stopping dilation with this drug.
He prefaced all this with, "I have this medicine, there are no tests that show it will help your condition, we do not plan on doing any tests, but I think you should take it anyway. If you can't tolerate it we'll adjust it and see if we can get it dialed in."
This is one the best Cardiologist in the United States. My mother and I were floored. Fucking drug dealers all of them. The only reason I'm alive today is because I took myself off the excessive prescriptions they were giving me at the end of treatment. I was caught in a viscous cycle until I got on the herb 100% for my meds. I'm not taking it. If it dilates I'll have the surgery. I don't need your poison.
When we got on the elevator to leave their were two hot ass Pharmacy reps in there. Big boobs selling big drugs. In the four years that I have been going through this, it seems this problem has gotten considerably worse.
I fear we are a nation being destroyed by pills sold as the solution to all of our problems. They have their place, of course, but the abuse is so rampant it's sickening.
This is just one of the underlying problems thats gonna sink this country. Im gathering my hard hats and tin cans lol... I dont see how we are going to be sustainable like this for very much longer...
Before my life time is up i predict we will have a collapse one way or another that dwarfs what we face just these last 5-10 years... I hope and pray for it not to happen but nothing changes for the good it just gets worse and worse... pretty soon something has to break...
Before my life time is up i predict we will have a collapse one way or another that dwarfs what we face just these last 5-10 years... I hope and pray for it not to happen but nothing changes for the good it just gets worse and worse... pretty soon something has to break...
My best friend's 18 year old sister nearly died from blood clots in her brain caused by Nuvaring. I've told any female that will listen to steer clear of that product as you won't know how you will react to it until you're in the ICU on a ventilator fighting for your life. Fortunately, she's young and has since mostly recovered in the last year, but will forever be on blood-thinning drugs made by, of course, the same companies that made the drug that nearly killed her.
I will not use any of those birth control pills because I know my mom's medical history with them. Needless to say, that history is NOT good and sometimes she feels a dull pain in various parts of her body. Birth control pills may also make it more difficult to have children once you are "ready" to have them.
No kidding lol. They all look like they were pulled off the cover off Cosmo or GQ here. Sex sells pills and they are racking it up. One those girls that was in the elevator had one of those new fancy I-books or whatnot. Tablet PC.
That's the way it is though these days. Any problem you go to the doctor for you come home with an assortment of pills. Depressed, take two of these. Oh, life is hard, take two of these. You can't get a job, take two of these. etc etc.
It's will eventually reach epidemic type proportions I believe. We are getting pretty close to just about everyone being on some drug for some problem now.
LOL Spastic.
Ya know, just throwing that out there.
I know y'all hate caring that circle of pills around in your purse. Condoms are a real mood killer. Adoption is sweet. Nurture over Nature IMO.
K.I.S.S. Baby
Man I'm blazed
fuck big pharma its all a god damn scam, makes me sick to think how this country runs..
that makes me fucking sick. are you kidding me? up to 10 years incarceration, thats not even 1 year per year he lied about faking these studies that have effected thousands of americans. i get popped with a few plants and im looking at up to 20.goes to show you our system is valued on class. i bet he wont do a month in jail.
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B. Self Reliant
FOr many of us, this didn't surprise us at all, but for most Americans, it probably comes across as some big scam. Too bad. Yet people wonder why we care so much about the cannabis plant! I'll never understand. . .
I would caution against discounting vaccines. Medical science can do amazing things these days, but one must always remember that it is you and only you that can save yourself.
You are nothing without your health. It is everything. The help is out there, but you have to find it. The system fails to distribute competent care across the board.
It's the sad reality of our system. Maybe one day the States can have single payer systems through themselves, but not controlled by the Feds.
That's TOU smashing bag of worms. I guess my point is the resources are out there, but you have to educate and take it upon yourself to save yourself because I can guarantee you, NO ONE is looking out for your final interest, except yourself.
Flying Goat
Member
Fuzz420 - You DID dodge a bullet on that one... Right now, Poland's Minister of health is refusing to call the population to be vaccinated en masse. It seems she is a free thinker who has trouble understanding why a vaccine MUST be used to head off a worldwide pandemic in one of the mildest flu seasons ever... What clued this lady in? The fact that the Big Pharma is pushing this vaccine like crazy with their unsubstantiated fear-mongering tactics... and the "disclaimers" on the packaging.
Stated more plainly, she pointed out how Big Pharma wants all the profit, but none of the liability should this miracle vaccine turn out to be _______________ (you fill in the blank).
Already, this vaccine has been linked to many miscarriages across the US, sometimes 4 per family when various members were vaccinated at the same time...
Hmmm... 4 sisters go to get vaccinated out of concern for their unborn babies (various stages of pregnancy). Within 24-48 hours after receiving the vaccine, ALL 4 had premature labor which resulted in hospitalization of ALL 4, & unfortunately, the loss of all 4 babies.
I have a friend whose 15-year old son was perfectly normal until he had his DPT vaccination... He became autistic, spastic & blind, unable to speak, had to be fed with a tube... He would sometimes follow you with his eyes, but generally was "not home" for his last 11 years.
Another particular rant I have is how our docs are conditioned to rely on Big Pharma's SALES PEOPLE to treat us. Docs are part of the problem as well.
Example: I went to a routine appointment at my clinic to renew meds for my fibromyalgia. I got a different doc than I had made the appointment with (I was told on the phone I'd be seeing the doc of my choice, then they switched on me).
This gal prescribed Soma for my muscle spasms, as a step up from Flexeril, because I was more active & had been working outside. (Kinda like pursuing a NORMAL life?)
She wrote the Rx for Soma 250 mg 3 times a day. I filled it at Wal-Mart & the cashier said, "That'll be $182, please." This, after they have my Medicare & supplemental insurance on file. I said, "That can't be right..." I'd always paid $2.00 for Soma in the past.
Turns out, the old 350 mg Soma ("carisoprodol" is the generic), WOULD cost me only $2.00. However, my doc had prescribed Soma 250 mg, with the new slick enteric coating...
Because Soma has been on the market so long, the patent has expired, thereby making it possible for others to release the generic medication & make a small profit. Big Pharma's answer:
make a new version, slightly different, with a NEW patent.
Make the patient take 3 pills a day instead of 2 -- either way, you end up with 700 mg of carisoprodol...
But - the patient will have to pay $180 more for the same med!
I went back to my doc & explained I wanted the generic carisoprodol 350 mg & she REFUSED to rewrite my prescription. Instead, she offered me a coupon for $30 off. When I complained that the generic would only cost me $2.00, she informed me that SHE was the doc & SHE would do the prescribing. I asked her how big a kickback was she getting for each prescription. "More than my $30 coupon, right?"
I live on Social Security Disability & this bitch would not talk to me, would not change to a different muscle relaxer, would not allow me to have the generic... And, in the meantime, I cannot afford another appointment with a different doctor for another 2 months!
Talk about screwing the patient! I'm without a medicine I can easily afford, because the doc prefers I try the "new & improved" version which costs me $180 more per month! As a result, I end up paying $130 for an appointment with a doc who decides if I don't want to take what she prescribes, I can do without all together.
How's THAT for collaboration?
BTW, I've located the other doc I had hit it off well with. She's over in Mobile. When I can afford to make an appointment, I'll be filling her in on her colleague's behavior & why I'm willing to drive an extra 1/2 hour to see her instead...
She believes in nutritional healing, herbal medicines & told me I was managing my condition in a manner more healthy than most FM patients...
My point is - shop around until you find a doc who understands you & your condition. Make sure they are not in league with Big Pharma...
Stated more plainly, she pointed out how Big Pharma wants all the profit, but none of the liability should this miracle vaccine turn out to be _______________ (you fill in the blank).
Already, this vaccine has been linked to many miscarriages across the US, sometimes 4 per family when various members were vaccinated at the same time...
Hmmm... 4 sisters go to get vaccinated out of concern for their unborn babies (various stages of pregnancy). Within 24-48 hours after receiving the vaccine, ALL 4 had premature labor which resulted in hospitalization of ALL 4, & unfortunately, the loss of all 4 babies.
I have a friend whose 15-year old son was perfectly normal until he had his DPT vaccination... He became autistic, spastic & blind, unable to speak, had to be fed with a tube... He would sometimes follow you with his eyes, but generally was "not home" for his last 11 years.
Another particular rant I have is how our docs are conditioned to rely on Big Pharma's SALES PEOPLE to treat us. Docs are part of the problem as well.
Example: I went to a routine appointment at my clinic to renew meds for my fibromyalgia. I got a different doc than I had made the appointment with (I was told on the phone I'd be seeing the doc of my choice, then they switched on me).
This gal prescribed Soma for my muscle spasms, as a step up from Flexeril, because I was more active & had been working outside. (Kinda like pursuing a NORMAL life?)
She wrote the Rx for Soma 250 mg 3 times a day. I filled it at Wal-Mart & the cashier said, "That'll be $182, please." This, after they have my Medicare & supplemental insurance on file. I said, "That can't be right..." I'd always paid $2.00 for Soma in the past.
Turns out, the old 350 mg Soma ("carisoprodol" is the generic), WOULD cost me only $2.00. However, my doc had prescribed Soma 250 mg, with the new slick enteric coating...
Because Soma has been on the market so long, the patent has expired, thereby making it possible for others to release the generic medication & make a small profit. Big Pharma's answer:
make a new version, slightly different, with a NEW patent.
Make the patient take 3 pills a day instead of 2 -- either way, you end up with 700 mg of carisoprodol...
But - the patient will have to pay $180 more for the same med!
I went back to my doc & explained I wanted the generic carisoprodol 350 mg & she REFUSED to rewrite my prescription. Instead, she offered me a coupon for $30 off. When I complained that the generic would only cost me $2.00, she informed me that SHE was the doc & SHE would do the prescribing. I asked her how big a kickback was she getting for each prescription. "More than my $30 coupon, right?"
I live on Social Security Disability & this bitch would not talk to me, would not change to a different muscle relaxer, would not allow me to have the generic... And, in the meantime, I cannot afford another appointment with a different doctor for another 2 months!
Talk about screwing the patient! I'm without a medicine I can easily afford, because the doc prefers I try the "new & improved" version which costs me $180 more per month! As a result, I end up paying $130 for an appointment with a doc who decides if I don't want to take what she prescribes, I can do without all together.
How's THAT for collaboration?
BTW, I've located the other doc I had hit it off well with. She's over in Mobile. When I can afford to make an appointment, I'll be filling her in on her colleague's behavior & why I'm willing to drive an extra 1/2 hour to see her instead...
She believes in nutritional healing, herbal medicines & told me I was managing my condition in a manner more healthy than most FM patients...
My point is - shop around until you find a doc who understands you & your condition. Make sure they are not in league with Big Pharma...
Anything that fucks with your endocrine system is shite........
My wife had years of side effects from taking the pill for less than a year.....threw her whole systems balance out of whack......
Fuck that noise.....any man worth having as a mate would never ask or want his girl to take the pill....as much as screwing with condoms suck, it's better than buggering your mate's health for your jollies.
Which is why the $200 I spent on that vasectomy was prob the best value I ever did git.......
lidspinner
Member
i am with everyone of you who hate big pharma, but I guess what I want and need to know is this.............
What do we do to stop it?
is there anything we can do to stop it?
is it to late?
I want to see solutions...and I cant find any.
What do we do to stop it?
is there anything we can do to stop it?
is it to late?
I want to see solutions...and I cant find any.
Breaking the cycle indoctrination is what will stop this, but there are powerful institutions and even worse powerful egos and greed in place to overcome.
