BudSiteBob
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Hey Everybody.
I very recently had a sick plant thread with these same seedlings... im pretty sure it was a phosphorus deficiency. However i also learned that i had been overfeeding all my plants and using improper ratios of grow and bloom (pbp).
I was given a link to angelfire.com where i used the nutrient ppm ratio ml/gal calculator.
i learned according to mel franks charts exactly how many ml/gal of what i should be giving them during each stage.
4ml grow and 6 ml bloom for first two weeks.
12ml grow and 12 ml bloom for vegging
15ml bloom + some pk boosters for flowering (opposed to the 47ml/gal i was givin' my flowering ladies)
well i flushed out my 40 seedlings and i started watering them with the corrected nutrient ratio.
they have been growing well and most of them look pretty good. Some times it is hard to tell if there having problems again or if there is just still left over leaf damage.
The problem i had before though was a phosphorus deficiency looking thing ( due to not enough bloom nutes and also not adjusting my ph... was probably really low)
that has seemed to stop. But some of the plants are displaying much lighter colors in the inner middle of the newest growth. i have 11 different strains so it makes things a little difficult to compare.
some strains have this going on. some dont at all. some got it bad and some just a little.
ive been using tap water so im not adding calmag. im gonna get a R/O filter and switch to R/O with the calmag again.
im using my 1/3 perlite, 1/3 peat moss and 1/3 top soil mix with 1/2 cup of epsoma starter plus (for ben bacteria & fungi) per 3 gal of the media.
heres one big big issue im hoping some one can help me out with. I just started using my HANNA all in one monitor ph/tds/temp.
it seems like i can never get a consistent reading with it. i have 3 18 resivours and each 3 gal bucket has an adjustable dripper. each 18 gal res had 10 gal of tap water with 10ml/gal of pbp grow and 10ml/gal of pbp bloom. 5ml/gal of AN Nirvana...(very low k value everything else is... well i dont even know..) directions say to use as an additive at 15-20ml/gal during veg and im only using 5 ml/gal. also 1 drop per gallon super thrive.
when i stick the meters in the res i get one reading... then if i go 2 inches deeper i get a rating of 2 points higher pH!!! WTF!! very frustrating. also sometimes ill just be holding the probes steady and the pH will be jumping around all over the place....
is pH that hard to measure? i have a power head in each res that constantly stirs the nutes around and throws a bunch of bubble in there.
is my pH probe bad? i just figured it should be easy... u but in the probe and it gives you a reading.. but mine will jump around... it varies greatly with the depth of which you hold the probes at. i don't know what to trust or... i wanna pull my hair out.
in the instructions that come with my monitor it says to store the probe in the protective cap with a couple drops of a storage solution that of coarse they didn't include with my meter.
so Ive just been storing the probe with tap water in the cap? could this be my problem?
if you know the kind of pH measuring problem i am having and know a method or technique either of measuring or of maintenance of the probe that i need to be doing to get a good consistent reading. please tell me.
So here are some updated pictures of my seedlings which are now a good 5-6 weeks old. in there new home. 4x8 tent with two digital 600 hps. they all got a mod scrog screen over them.
This is my one DWC experiment. i was in a red party cup with my soil mix and i surrounded it in perlite after carefully cutting many large holes for the roots to grow through. its been 2-4 days and the roots have not grown out of the net pot yet. also as u can see. its having a serious leaf problem where the new inner growth is like.. bleeched. Cal or mag def? this is r/o water with 5ml per gal of cal mag soo... i dunno whats wrong. 5.8 ph ( i hope my meter is right) and 4.5 ml of pbp grow and bloom per gal.
Heres one of the normal seedlings in the 1/3 perlite 1/3 vermiculite and 1/3 top soil mix. being watered from the res. its kind of got the inner bleached growth thing goin on but its very subtle i dont know if its nothing or the start of a problem.
This is a mk-ultra seedling that is the only plant in the room out of 30 having this particular problem.... the bleached look... the twistie crooked leafs... i dont know whats wrong with it.. there is another mk ultra in the room and its not doing this. (also from seed (feminised))
so i know i side tracked a bunch and im all damn over the place and i got all sorts of problems so i apologize for being so disorganized. If any one can help with with that ph meter issue or any of these leaf problems, many thanks to you.
Also if any body could tell me how to get my own damn picture for my avatar. that be awesome too. i messed around in there for a while but i could find an option.
I very recently had a sick plant thread with these same seedlings... im pretty sure it was a phosphorus deficiency. However i also learned that i had been overfeeding all my plants and using improper ratios of grow and bloom (pbp).
I was given a link to angelfire.com where i used the nutrient ppm ratio ml/gal calculator.
i learned according to mel franks charts exactly how many ml/gal of what i should be giving them during each stage.
4ml grow and 6 ml bloom for first two weeks.
12ml grow and 12 ml bloom for vegging
15ml bloom + some pk boosters for flowering (opposed to the 47ml/gal i was givin' my flowering ladies)
well i flushed out my 40 seedlings and i started watering them with the corrected nutrient ratio.
they have been growing well and most of them look pretty good. Some times it is hard to tell if there having problems again or if there is just still left over leaf damage.
The problem i had before though was a phosphorus deficiency looking thing ( due to not enough bloom nutes and also not adjusting my ph... was probably really low)
that has seemed to stop. But some of the plants are displaying much lighter colors in the inner middle of the newest growth. i have 11 different strains so it makes things a little difficult to compare.
some strains have this going on. some dont at all. some got it bad and some just a little.
ive been using tap water so im not adding calmag. im gonna get a R/O filter and switch to R/O with the calmag again.
im using my 1/3 perlite, 1/3 peat moss and 1/3 top soil mix with 1/2 cup of epsoma starter plus (for ben bacteria & fungi) per 3 gal of the media.
heres one big big issue im hoping some one can help me out with. I just started using my HANNA all in one monitor ph/tds/temp.
it seems like i can never get a consistent reading with it. i have 3 18 resivours and each 3 gal bucket has an adjustable dripper. each 18 gal res had 10 gal of tap water with 10ml/gal of pbp grow and 10ml/gal of pbp bloom. 5ml/gal of AN Nirvana...(very low k value everything else is... well i dont even know..) directions say to use as an additive at 15-20ml/gal during veg and im only using 5 ml/gal. also 1 drop per gallon super thrive.
when i stick the meters in the res i get one reading... then if i go 2 inches deeper i get a rating of 2 points higher pH!!! WTF!! very frustrating. also sometimes ill just be holding the probes steady and the pH will be jumping around all over the place....
is pH that hard to measure? i have a power head in each res that constantly stirs the nutes around and throws a bunch of bubble in there.
is my pH probe bad? i just figured it should be easy... u but in the probe and it gives you a reading.. but mine will jump around... it varies greatly with the depth of which you hold the probes at. i don't know what to trust or... i wanna pull my hair out.
in the instructions that come with my monitor it says to store the probe in the protective cap with a couple drops of a storage solution that of coarse they didn't include with my meter.
so Ive just been storing the probe with tap water in the cap? could this be my problem?
if you know the kind of pH measuring problem i am having and know a method or technique either of measuring or of maintenance of the probe that i need to be doing to get a good consistent reading. please tell me.
So here are some updated pictures of my seedlings which are now a good 5-6 weeks old. in there new home. 4x8 tent with two digital 600 hps. they all got a mod scrog screen over them.
This is my one DWC experiment. i was in a red party cup with my soil mix and i surrounded it in perlite after carefully cutting many large holes for the roots to grow through. its been 2-4 days and the roots have not grown out of the net pot yet. also as u can see. its having a serious leaf problem where the new inner growth is like.. bleeched. Cal or mag def? this is r/o water with 5ml per gal of cal mag soo... i dunno whats wrong. 5.8 ph ( i hope my meter is right) and 4.5 ml of pbp grow and bloom per gal.
Heres one of the normal seedlings in the 1/3 perlite 1/3 vermiculite and 1/3 top soil mix. being watered from the res. its kind of got the inner bleached growth thing goin on but its very subtle i dont know if its nothing or the start of a problem.
This is a mk-ultra seedling that is the only plant in the room out of 30 having this particular problem.... the bleached look... the twistie crooked leafs... i dont know whats wrong with it.. there is another mk ultra in the room and its not doing this. (also from seed (feminised))
so i know i side tracked a bunch and im all damn over the place and i got all sorts of problems so i apologize for being so disorganized. If any one can help with with that ph meter issue or any of these leaf problems, many thanks to you.
Also if any body could tell me how to get my own damn picture for my avatar. that be awesome too. i messed around in there for a while but i could find an option.
