Limp plant!!

[Robertwantsganj]

I dont know why a plant would start limping.
someone told me to use superthrive but im unable to get that now.
and my friend who gave me this plant today said he had some spray in a bottle for the plant so i think that might be it.
but i dont know if my plant is going to make it to the morning.
what does everyone think? i got toothpicks holding it straight up

 

[Robertwantsganj]

i cant get the spray till the morning.

 

[tokinafaty420]

Looks thirsty and possibly too warm.

What are your ambient temps in there?
How close is the light?
When was the last time you watered it?

 

[ColBatGuano]

Superthrive is bunk.

Does the plant feel dry? It looks dry, but it could be drowning, too. Why's all that stuff wrapped around it?

 

[Robertwantsganj]

i dont think its too warm cause my orange kush is growing fine under the light.
its no more than 10 inches from the light. i watered it today. my friend gave it to me in a small sorta hydro cup system thing with rockwool and water under it. but i transplanted it outta that and put it into soil. just dug a whole and put the whole rockwool in there.
the twist ties are on it to hold up those lanky stems. everythings falling down! it might be because of shock from the transplant?

 

[southpaw]

What the... damn man!

I'd say water that poor thing, except the background looks like a hydro set up?

If it's a stem break, splint that girl up and make sure the split pieces are securely reconnected. I've saved upper stems that way before. This plant is damn near indestructible.

*Edit* - saw your post. If you're moving her from hydro to soil, you have to keep the soil VERY wet for the first couple of days.

 

[Robertwantsganj]

i just watered it but i guess i could put more in.
my friend said it couldve been from shock and itll be back on track by maybe tomorrow or so but i dont know.
ill go water it though but thats about all i can do now i guess

 

[tokinafaty420]

Well vascular plants such as marijuana require Turgor pressure to keep outward pressure on the cell walls. This is what keeps the plant standing up. Transpiration and a source of water is required to maintain this turgor pressure inside the cell walls of the plant. If you cut off the water supply the plant will continue to transpire through the plant's stomata located on the leaves. So the upward path of water continues, but if the soil dries out the pressure cannot be maintained. This looks like a classic example of a thirsty plant. It no longer can hold itself up and the stems look floppy.

 

[twisztdauthorit]

give it time and dont over water. ive had limp plants come back over night almost

 

[tokinafaty420]

i just watered it but i guess i could put more in.
my friend said it couldve been from shock and itll be back on track by maybe tomorrow or so but i dont know.
ill go water it though but thats about all i can do now i guess

Give it some time to reestablish the pressure inside of the cell walls. Give it a good watering and check back in like 12 hours. It should only take a few hours for the plant to start perking backup. It doesn't look like you damaged it you just let her get a bit dry.

 

[ColBatGuano]

Yes, def. give it time to get used to the new digs. Its roots need to get into the soil. Take those ties off. Let the plant perk back up into the form it wants to be in. It isn't necessary to hold up limp branches. That doesn't help the plant if its dry anyhow.

 

[Robertwantsganj]

its even more limpier than it was when i took that picture! it seems to be getting worse. is it gonna get worse before it gets better? pretty much all the branches and leaves are drooping down except the main stem which would be too if i didnt hold it up with toothpicks

 

[Hydro-Soil]

my friend gave it to me in a small sorta hydro cup system thing with rockwool and water under it. but i transplanted it outta that and put it into soil. just dug a whole and put the whole rockwool in there.

Ouch.

The rockwool holds and evaporates water at a completely different rate than the soil.

Personally.... I would pull it up and drop the whole thing into a bucket of RO water for an hour. Leaves, roots and all.

After that, pick it up and see if you can carefully peel any rockwool away... without damaging the roots. Then carefully cover the roots with a fine soil mix and re-pot.

What you're trying to avoid are roots rotting in the rockwool because the rockwool is absorbing too much moisture from the wet soil and roots rotting because they're touching each other under the dirt without enough oxygen in the surrounding moisture.

If you can't peel the rockwool off.... anyone else have suggestions for the best way to deal with it? Possibly putting it back into a hydro type setup until the roots are longer? Not sure.

Stay Safe!

p.s. There's an outside chance that it'll grow roots into the soil and survive... it's not going to look pretty during that process.

 

[ColBatGuano]

Personally.... I would pull it up and drop the whole thing into a bucket of RO water for an hour. Leaves, roots and all.

After that, pick it up and see if you can carefully peel any rockwool away... without damaging the roots. Then carefully cover the roots with a fine soil mix and re-pot . . .

Excellent idea you have there. It makes sense to me. The plant could be drying up because the rockwool is draining off into the soil, requiring more waterings than it would if it were rooted into the soil already. What would be the recommended watering cycle for a plant in a rockwool slab? Maybe if you tried that until the roots grow out you could keep it happy.

 

[Robertwantsganj]

well there were some roots already hanging out the rockwool and you could see roots tangled into the rockwool everywhere when i was transplanting it.
hopefully when i wake up itll be perking up a little but for now its all just hanging down.
stems and leaves feel soft. except the main stem is sturdy enough to keep the vertical stature of the plant
what is RO water?

 

[ColBatGuano]

RO = Reverse Osmosis filtered water. (google: reverse osmosis)

It is more important and effective in hydro than soil, but either way it is a good way to get clean water for plants with a good starting pH.

 

[El Toker]

Chances are that you ripped all the root hairs off in the transplant and the plant can't absorb enough water to keep up with the transpiration at the leaves. Put a cover over the plant like a plastic bottle cut in half, that will act as a propagator, spray the leaves regularly with water and generally treat as a new cutting until the root hairs have grown back.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Chances are that you ripped all the root hairs off in the transplant and the plant can't absorb enough water to keep up with the transpiration at the leaves. Put a cover over the plant like a plastic bottle cut in half, that will act as a propagator, spray the leaves regularly with water and generally treat as a new cutting until the root hairs have grown back.

This is good advice.... By keeping the humidity at 80% - 90%, the plant won't have to pull that water up through the roots and will keep from wilting so fast, while the roots adjust to the soil.

Stay Safe!