TurboKlone?

[Guest 18340]

Anyone using one of these? I'm in the market for some type of (large)clone machine and I've narrowed it down to the Turbokloner or the EZcloner.
Anyway pros/cons would be greatly appreciated
http://www.turboklone.com/products.php

 

[dybert]

They both work great, but they're both ridiculously overpriced. Theres some great DIY articles on here that show you how to build a cloner virtually identical to either of those. Though, if money isn't an issue, both of those would work well.

 

[B. Friendly]

this is a simple bubbler. holes are covered by metalic tape to cover rooting area. put shoots through so roots are 2'' under water, attach a pump and airstone, roots in 5 days'ish. cost $50




or another build it yourself, a mister instead of bubbler:









This great cloning system is designed specially for the person looking for a small sized unit but one that packs a punch on effectiveness. This unit was special request for use who wanted a compact system in size but still wanted to use it for as many sites as they could, this system uses 38 Genuine EZ Clone 2" neoprene inserts equally spaced to get you the most sites possible on this reservoir. This system comes complete with everything you need expect the plants & the water.

Contains the following items:

10 gallon reservoir 24' long x 17' wide x 9" tall
Hydroponic rated 250gph aqua pump
Customs spraybar manifold
HD Hydroponic spray misters
High output Hydroponic rated air pump
Airline tubing 6 feet
38 each EZ Clone neoprene inserts
7 gram container of Rootech Cloning gel
1oz nutrient mix
Clear easy to follow instructions
1 year membership to members only area of this site
Free Technical advice & support before, during & after the sale.


Clones taken from a plant 4 weeks in 12/12...rooted in 5 days!!!
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So, I just wanted to share with you how I got roots in 5 days from a plant that was 4 weeks into 12/12. I only do hydro, and only use a little bubble cloner. I figured I would do a little experiment with some clones. They were put under a single 13 watt blue spectrum CFL, and 1 gal buckets (lightproofed), with a single air stone in each bucket. lid was cut to fit EZ cloner pucks, then they go into Pool Noodles and 3 gal buckets once rooted until they are chopped.

I took 6 pretty big clones, from the bottom of the plant. The clones all had buds on them, which I picked off, and cut all leaves in half. Cut the clones on a 45 with a clean razor, and scrape the top layer off the bottom couple inches of the clone.

Now, both buckets were filled with straight RO water, no pH adjustmet. Both, filled to the same height with water in bucket(a little over half way) and the temps are 72 F In one bucket the stem was submerged under the water by 2 inches. The other the stems were put slightly above the water line, but getting splashed and misted by the bubbles.

The clones were taken 5 days ago, and the ones that were under the water by about 2 inches have roots already!!!!! Yesterday there were very small bumps, now today 2 out of the 3 have multiple roots and the other will by tomorrow. The clones above the water have nothing, and do not look as good on top.

So, if anyone wants roots in 5 days...try putting your stems in the water by about 2 inches and give them a little scrape before you put them in the water. No gels, no pH adjustment, just RO water and bubbles. Water temp at 72. Hope this helps someone.


MODEL #2
Tutorial - Building your own homemade aeroponic cloning machine
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A friend of mine bought one of these $150 and his clones start rooting in about 7-10 days....100% start rate...never lost a clone

Heres a link how to build our own for under $60 Technology Garden Tutorial - Building your own homemade aeroponic cloning machine | Technology Garden


.............................................You will need.............................................. .


(1) Rubbermaid “Latchables” 50 Quart size Storage tote - Mine has a blue top with clear sides.


(1) Can of spray rubberized undercoating - in the automotive dept
(1) 3/4″ CPVC pipe - about 32 inches or so will do

(1) 2″ Section of CPVC pipe (cut from the length of pipe above)
(2) 3/4″ CPVC endcaps

(1) 3/4″ CPVC “Tee” fitting

(1) 3/4″ CPVC to 3/4″ Female thread adapter

(1) 3/4 MPT Barbed adapter for 3/4″ hose


(2) Hose clamps, stainless steel for both barbed connections
(1) Set of RainDrip 360 degree Sprayers (pack of 10)


(1) Sunleaves 345 GPH pump (at least 300GPH)
(1) Roll of Closed Cell Foam tape (weathersealing tape) to seal lid
(1) 8-10″ section of 3/4″ Hose
(1) Small Aquarium heater, 100 watt is max - set to 73-75F

(1) 7/8″ speed bore bit for pipe holes
(1) 1 1/2″ speed bore bit or hole saw for cutting holes in top


(1) 1/8″ drill bit(1) 10/32″ tap (creates threads in pipe for sprayers)

 

[Guest 18340]

BUMP!
Nobody out their is using the TurboKlone? I know plenty are using the EZ Cloner and that was my first choice.
B. Friendly, I definitely don't wanna go the diy route.

 

[Teeg420]

Im an ez cloner guy, 120 is what i use. I do like the idea of the fan to help cool the water.

Dont know anyone running one.

 

[Guest 18340]

Im an ez cloner guy, 120 is what i use. I do like the idea of the fan to help cool the water.

Dont know anyone running one.

I like the fan idea as well but I gotta wonder how much cooling it actually does. The air it blows in will be as warm as the room the unit sits in.
If it's no better/worse than the EZ cloner then it's the better deal as far as price for size (# of holes).

 

[Cruzin]

I just picked a 48 site Turbo Klone'r last night and added 83 cuttings to it. I did not use the humidity dome as it was never necessary with my previous experience with the EZ cloner. I really do not think there is much difference between the two, a few suttle nuances but overall I think its about price and size.

Good luck and PM me if you want to see some picks of roots in the next 4-5 days.

 

[HippyCrackTx]

the most important thing to think of when using these cloners that ive found is obviously the water temps....if they get to high you WILL get root rot and any number of problems that will curse the plants from the get go,thats why i went back to cloning in rapid rooters....huge beards blasting out in 3/4 days,once you get the hand of cloning by hand you'll never go back ....thats my experience anyhoo

 

[Abraham Lincoln]

Why are these better than just doing the ol clip n dip then into rockwool/ rooter plugs? Do they cut down on rooting time or something?

 

[HippyCrackTx]

forgot to add....i have a buddy that uses a chiller for his big cloners...has like 4 of of those big daddy's and he rocks it pretty nice keeping those temps down

 

[chase1252]

im runnng a 96 and 144 site turbo kloner at the moment. first signs of roots n about four days with pure water at a ph of 7 been running for about two weeks and cleaned them each once. from what ive read the fan is also supposed to cut down on the slime. i wouldnt know seeing as ive never ran an ez cloner before and havnt had that problem with the turbo yet. was rooting in rapid rooters and dont get me wrong if you have the time to constantly check them on the clones then that method works great. right now trying out root excelorator in one and quarter strength nutrients in another. well wee which works best. ten days with clean water had a cutting with roots reaching into the water. also you can take MUCH larger cuttings with the turbo cloner compared to the rapid rooter with minamal care. once again cant compare to the ez kloner, never used one. lol hope this was of help.

 

[kushmon]

Turbo Cloner 96

Turbo Cloner 96

I recently purchased one of these units, used EZ Clone before. I am very disappointed with the results I got from the Turbo Cloner. I lost half my clippings in the first 3 days. All the outside rows dried up. This tells me that they were not getting watered. I believe the design is faulty. Manifold and pump are too small, not creating enough mist. The companies line is that the smaller pump cuts down on heat. As for the air blowing into the unit, forget it. Held my hand over the hole and felt no air coming through. As for cooling the tank, the room temperature determines the amount of cooling the fan can do. I am going back to EZ Clone. Can't afford the loses.

 

[legalizekindtok]

been a diy guy all my life! said to hell with pucks and anymore contraptions! broke down and got the turbo kloner!! life is real simple after 300 bucks!! only mad i didnt try it before now!! but drop em in at 70 degrees 6.0 ph prety little roots in 5-6 days tops!!! and the fan cools the res about 2-3 degrees cooler than ambient room temps!! better value than ez cloner!!

 

[Str8Dank]

evlme2 can you tell me what they or you believe this additional air will benifit when it comes to cooling? most non aero systems need a heater and i would figure that aero would not be that much different in that they would need a warmer zone as well. i know my diy works better in a warmer room then one in the high 60's low 70's

have a good one

Str8Dank

 

[organiclover]

I got one recently - works better than an ez-clone IMO
rez temps stay around 70 with help of fan
- you can fit more clones in the same area
but other than that they are very similar
i think it is a better design but i would still like to see the pump outside of the rez at some point

 

[REZDOG]

Hmmmm....
Actually,the aero-cloning unit produced by Botanicare kicks the ez cloner's ass ALL over the room. Then back across the room,again.
The Botanicare unit is FAR better built,runs a much smaller,cooler pump,and comes with an exceptional dome with kickass ventilation built in.
Fuck the ez cloner,it's crap.
The turbo Kloner's whole "fan blowing air into the rooting chamber" gizmo is (imo) ridiculous,over-engineered,uncalled for and most likely,useless.
If you need a cooler rooting zone,then you buy a smaller pump to control heat,and if you need a warmer rooting zone,then add a titanium fish tank heater,thermostatically controlled. Monitor with a floating pool thermometer for reservoir fluid temps,and a simple probe hanging in the air to monitor ambient air temps in the root zone. Regarding the "Kloner" unit- You sure as FUCK do NOT bring in outside air with a tiny magnetic fan through a tiny port to a root zone area that's extremely sensitive to fungus,molds and other nastiness. That dumb fucking fan would have to run on an INTERNAL thermostat that monitored the ambient temp of the rooting zone inside the Kloner-That's a fact. I'm damn sure that the meatpods that designed Das "Kloner" (I hate the "K"!) never thought of that. In fact,I assure you they didn't.
Fluctuating internal ambient temps = varying results-at YOUR expense.
Screw these other two,get the Botanicare aero unit and thank me later!


....My two pence and a farthing.





~RD~

. .Also,the two you speak of are BLACK plastic. The Botanicare unit is white,which disperses heat MUCH more rapidly and evenly than,um,black.

 

[SELFHEMPLOYED]

Anyone using one of these? I'm in the market for some type of (large)clone machine and I've narrowed it down to the Turbokloner or the EZcloner.
Anyway pros/cons would be greatly appreciated
http://www.turboklone.com/products.php

I use an ezcloner personally and get 100% with just about 200ml of clonex in about 9 days. My boy has a turbokloner which he picked up for super cheap after some other guy couldn't get it to work.

12 days later........

 

[Bud Bug]

The companies line is that the smaller pump cuts down on heat

Wouldn't mounting the mag drive outside of the res solve that problem? Mag drives are threaded on both end and can be ran inline. And with the magdrive you could also use a Mazzei Injector inline to aerate the air as it goes through the misters.

 

[caljim]

There are two items in my grow that I find indispensable.

1st. Nutra Dip Trimeter. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'. Best ph probe I've ever owned.

2nd. The Turbo Klone. Stacks of huge and healthy cuts. Set it and forget is what I love about it. I've cloned in everything and hands down the "areo" style cloner, whichever brand you favor, has made my life EASY.