The Swedish Chef in Shark infested waters (Great White Shark - Double DR-60's)

[BorkBorkBork]

Well, that's...something...

Here's my sad little girls.

Ok, the ones in green are the ones I took the other day, and I feel better about my technique on those.

The ones in white white are the B clones (no roots) and day 25 lol

The rest are all A clones, also day 25. The one in red has a root nub, finally, and the one in blue is trying like hell.

The rest, nothing.

I'm going to replace a few of them (at least two or three) with new ones, probably tomorrow.

I have to stop by the hydro shop soon to get something, so I'll pick up some rapid rooters while I'm there, want to give those a shot as well.

So I chopped A, here's some pre and post harvest pics.

 

[Dödsknark]

Good luck with the clones Bork. The buds look really really good.

I've not tried cloning in bubbles, only rapid rooters and rockwool cubes. Both have actually given me 100% success so far. Just soaked medium in straight tap water (around PH 8 actually, but I don't think that's a good thing) and then kept em under plastic at 25degrees celsius. 22w CFl lighting them. Opened up for fresh air and misting about once a day. Probably not an optimal way to do it but just wanted to share my experience.

Give the rapid rooters a go! I hope they work out well for you.

 

[BorkBorkBork]

Good luck with the clones Bork. The buds look really really good.

I've not tried cloning in bubbles, only rapid rooters and rockwool cubes. Both have actually given me 100% success so far. Just soaked medium in straight tap water (around PH 8 actually, but I don't think that's a good thing) and then kept em under plastic at 25degrees celsius. 22w CFl lighting them. Opened up for fresh air and misting about once a day. Probably not an optimal way to do it but just wanted to share my experience.

Give the rapid rooters a go! I hope they work out well for you.

It's funny as hell that you mentioned that, because I put it on my shopping list for the hydro store a few days ago!

I've read several way positive writeups on RR's, including the JJScorpio one in the soil forum. I was just loathe to get another "hydro shop onlly" item, but since I have to go for a filter anyways, I decided to start a list.

How many days before you usually see roots in your experience?

What attracted me to the bubbler was a relatively cheap one-time investment, nothing but water, and virtually zero maintenance.

Most other cloning solutions I found needed misting several times per day, and I'm not down with that. I end up going in the tents NEARLY every day anyways, so misting once doesn't sound horrible.

Still have hopes for the cloner, took some more clones tonight.

 

[Dödsknark]

Heya Bork!

Took 5 a11 clones today (had to trim my becoming bonsai mother) so we'll see how long they take. I haven't been keeping track but I'd guess around 12-14 days on average. My cloning area is a bit cold at the moment but I'll take care of that tomorrow perhaps.

I buy my rapid rooters at the general gardening store. In case you need more and don't have a trip to the hydrostore planned.

I'm thinking about a bubbler cuz it's a hassle handling all the dirt. Might go hydro when I have the energy for it.

Good luck with the bubbler and please keep the porn coming

Edit: This is what I use. I just lay CFL's on top with half beercans as reflectors.

 

[Thundurkel]

So far I've had the best results with Rapid Rooters and Root Riot cubes and Dip n Grow or Root Tech gel also have used Clonex with success... They give me roots in 6-10 days on top of my cfl flower cab under 2ft T12 5000K 2 bulb shop light... I just use the 2.25L 76oz 9.5cup Ziplock containers one as my tray with the other upside down on top as my humidity dome and it's perfect bro! I can fit 32 clones in there all squeezed together and they just root like crazy and I have to pull em apart cuz they grow into eachothers cubes being so vigorous!

 

[K.J]

Nice run Bork! I love the setup. It's similar to mine, only with tents instead of a cab (we even have the same 250w ballast). Grow on!

 

[Thundurkel]

I sucked at cloning too till I started doing things that way... I started that container system with Jiffy7 pellets which are RR size and the Root Tech gel and I would get the Jiffy7 soaked in water with 4 drops of Superthrive per gal. Then squeeze em real tight in my fist making a lil RR type plug but squeezing and rolling in my hand and then I'd squeeze the top bottom and sides all at the same time making a tightly packed lil rooting plug. Poke a hole with a chop stick and insert cut and make sure to squeeze the peat at the top of the plug nice a tight around the stem. After 6 days you should see roots starting to come out some strains 10 days... Also you only need a tsp of water for each plug after the first 5 days and that shit worked sooooooo good for me till I couldn't find the small Jiffy's and don't like the big ones so I switched to RR... Try it out that way man and I bet you get 90% success

 

[BorkBorkBork]

Whoop!

Thanks for all the cloning advice ya'll.

The -ONLY- well stocked garden store within 50 miles doesn't carry RR's, unfortunately. I might still pick up a pack when I do go to the hydro-shop, but it looks like I don't need to.

The 2nd round of cuttings has plenty of root bumps (10 days) and will be ready for transplant in a few more days.

PEBKAC!

The first round is getting tossed tomorrow, only one has a root of about a quarter inch, and that's it, at 28 DAYS! Hehehe.

They had a combination of things against them.

Mother plants weren't the pinnacle of health at time of cutting
Put into stasis (improperly I might add) for 4 days
Poor technique in general

I also split the stem a little on ALL of them, and I only did the 45 degree cut with NO stem split on either of them, so that may be a factor as well, so I'll be doing some experimenting.

I'm just glad it was just me.

In other news, the shit is goooooooood.

The buds that I trimmed wet were taken down from the dryline tonight and moved to paper bags (my dumbass forgot to clean the new jars). The buds that I chopped nothing off of are still moist (today is day 5).

We'll see how trimming them dry is, my guess is that it's going to suuuuuck, but we'll see.

 

[BorkBorkBork]

Hey K.J., and howdy folks! Full update time!

Another two weeks have passed, and 2/3 phenos (2/4 plants) have been harvested! No counts yet, and they'll be a pretty rough guesstimate, because I've already vaped my fair share, hahaha.

Pheno A is wicked dank. She came down last Saturday (61 days flowering) (pre and post harvest pics earlier in the thread). I ran a little trimming experiment on it, trimming a few colas wet, and the rest dry. Definitely prefer trimming wet. It was much easier to judge when it was dry enough to jar, much easier to trim, and much easier to differentiate between junk and sugar leaf.

The dry trim colas ended up drying a little too long, and had some wet leaves tucked away behind the buds, so I had to paper bag them before jarring them. I was worried that there was not enough moisture left in the buds, so I burped it only once the first 48 hours, and while it's still a little dryer than I would have preferred, I think it will be just fine.

I only ever found ONE nanner on her, and I caught it very early (day 56), so she is not too hermie prone, but I will likely run her a few days longer next time around, so we'll se how she does at 65-70 days.

I'm guesstimating the pull at an ounce and a half, but that's strictly eyeballing. Here's some pics of the A Pheno harvest. Perfectly smokeable, not harsh at all, burns down to a pure white ash. My 4-piece grinder is covered in kief after running maybe 5 grams through it. This shit is beautiful.

Can't wait to have a big monocrop of her, will have to get some bubblebags before then, or a better dry sift solution.


Pheno C came down this past Saturday (68 days flowering). I found several nanners on her on day 66. I think I got all of them early enough, I don't expect to find any seeds, but we'll see. She looks a lot better all trimmed up than I thought she would, and heavier too! I'm hoping to get lucky and get an ounce from her, but I'd be shocked.

Forgot to nab pre-harvest pics of her, but here is most of her afterwards. The main cola was this weird massive monkeypaw. Just hope I don't fuck up the dry/cure.

Pheno B seems to have stalled, trichs are only about 50% cloudy, and has tons of new white pistils. I am almost positive it's because I top-filled with supersoil 30 days into flowering, and she didn't like the extra N.

The clone that is running with BioBizz nutes is doing GREAT, however and will probably end up finishing before the dry-fert clone (even though it's a week younger).

Here they are together

Here's the veggie tent. A-Pheno mom on the left, B-Pheno on the right. C pheno cut in the middle, just topped it.

Transplanted 3 rooted A-pheno cuts the other night. 1 is from the original cuts (DAY 32!!!!!) and 2 from the second round (14 days). Hopefully, a few more of the A cuts from the third round will take as well.

The cuts were not QUITE ready to be transplanted, but they had stalled, there was SLIME! Totally my fault, I've been lazy and hadn't changed the rez in more than a week!

Spent all night sterilizing, transplanting, etc. Also mixed up another batch of soil, so there should be plenty now. The transplants went into beer cups, and the C transplant is 17 days in and doing fine, and got topped tonight. Once she starts growing I'll start training her. I think I'll flower her out, and if I do, she'll have 3+ weeks veg time. Hope the 3rd round A transplant recover, I need those to root ASAP! They are on day 9, I'm hoping to see roots shortly.

Just hope the slime didn't fuck up my cloner. Lazy, lazy! Ugh.

3rd round A cuts on the right, new B cuts on the left.

And I'm spent!

Peace!

 

[Dödsknark]

Great update! Of to work now. I'll be back later. Check this out. A perfect cure every time.

 

[Thundurkel]

so looks like you got a purple pheno? I bet if you would have fed that one longer and took it a week longer so you got the same flush time you'd have a straight purple plant from the looks of it but thats just my thoughts.. Nice harvest I can't wait to get my girls filling in cuz it's gonna be a hell of a show

 

[Re51n8]

geez those colas are massive! great show!

 

[BorkBorkBork]

Great update! Of to work now. I'll be back later. Check this out. A perfect cure every time.

Oooooh, I needs to get me some of those! Thanks for the headsup!

so looks like you got a purple pheno? I bet if you would have fed that one longer and took it a week longer so you got the same flush time you'd have a straight purple plant from the looks of it but thats just my thoughts.. Nice harvest I can't wait to get my girls filling in cuz it's gonna be a hell of a show

You're probably right. I'm very happy with the results from the BioBizz grown clone, she sure is looking pretty.

geez those colas are massive! great show!

Thanks Re5!

Just jarred up the C pheno. Will take another look at trichs on the two B plants tonight, I think the BioBizz plant is juuuuuuust about there.

 

[Dödsknark]

Borkman, your plants look super nice. Wouldn't mind running them in my tent

Yeah, I ordered one myself. I've sometimes had great success but to be honest, it's been a guessing game.

 

[BorkBorkBork]

Guessing game is right, though this definately feels like one of those things that's more of an art-form than a science, and the only way to get it right is with experience. That's what I thought until I read that thread at least.

I guess the A pheno had some more nanners than I thought, I found fully developed seeds in one of the buds. Hope this is a very localized problem. That sucks.

Don't have any pics yet, but will get some soon, of the C-pheno buds. The two crown buds are fucking ridiculous.

 

[BorkBorkBork]

Guessing game is right, though this definately feels like one of those things that's more of an art-form than a science, and the only way to get it right is with experience. That's what I thought until I read that thread at least.

I guess the A pheno had some more nanners than I thought, I found fully developed seeds in one of the buds. Hope this is a very localized problem. That sucks.

Don't have any pics yet, but will get some soon, of the C-pheno buds. The two crown buds are fucking ridiculous.

 

[BorkBorkBork]

Because DK asked so nicely via reppage....

Pheno C was bigger tighter buds, and the color difference is pretty striking, C has lots more red hairs. A pheno drips in trichs, this one not so much.

First smoke test was mingled with a lot of other samples, so I can't pass judgment yet. Bag appeal is great.

 

[banjobrain]

 

[Dödsknark]

Looks like top quality product right there. Done any testing to compare the different phenos? Just curious Ha det bra!

 

[OPT]

looks fantastic Bork!

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