It's 2050: Can We Feed Nine Billion People Sustainably?

[MarquisBlack]

that explains a lot.

Uh-oh, I gave him some ammo...

You and I both know I'm very well-spoken and reasonable for my age.

You on the other hand... Your curmudgeon is showing...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Uh-oh, I gave him some ammo...

You and I both know I'm very well-spoken and reasonable for my age.

You on the other hand... Your curmudgeon is showing...

I did not mean it as an insult... and yes you are well spoken and reasonable, indeed.
But the fact is, higher brain function does not fully develop until your mid 20s...

1993: Pujol J; Vendrell P; Junqué C; Martí-Vilalta J L; Capdevila A
When does human brain development end? Evidence of corpus callosum growth up to adulthood.
Annals of neurology 1993;34(1):71-5.
To locate structural changes in the brain accounting for the increasing effectiveness in cognition and skills that occurs at the final stage of behavioral development, we attempted to determine the age at which the corpus callosum completes its active growth period. We assessed the growth rate of the corpus callosum by measuring its area twice on midsagittal magnetic resonance imaging scans separated by a 2-year interval, in a series of 90 subjects with a wide range of ages. We observed an increase in the size of the corpus callosum as long as human mentation expands, up to the middle 20s. Clinical and experimental data about the corpus callosum, together with the present findings, suggest that the corpus callosum is part of the highest order-latest maturing neural network of the brain.

 

[MarquisBlack]

I did not mean it as an insult... and yes you are well spoken and reasonable, indeed.
But the fact is, higher brain function does not fully develop until your mid 20s...

We observed an increase in the size of the corpus callosum as long as human mentation expands, up to the middle 20s.

Well, I'm pretty sure I hit puberty when I was 18 (Got armpit hair while I was in the Army,lol!), so I'll come back as an equal in the conversation in another 15 years or so... just in time for you to hit senility..

LMAO.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Well, I'm pretty sure I hit puberty when I was 18 (Got armpit hair while I was in the Army,lol!), so I'll come back as an equal in the conversation in another 15 years or so... just in time for you to hit senility..

LMAO.

cannabis prevents senility...
no worries your brain will be complete in a couple more years... no need to wait 15.

 

[MarquisBlack]

cannabis prevents senility...

Really? Cuz I forget what I did two hours ago.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Really? Cuz I forget what I did two hours ago.

that's just because you got distracted in between short term and long term memory storage... cannabis does that too

 

[9Lives]

I hear ya Grat3fulH3ad...Don't even get me started on women..

I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science.

 

[D4sh3y]

WHen it really comes down to it, if you grow your own medication... growing your own food doesnt seem that daunting of a task.

 

[buckeye-leaf]

if some of your veggie gardens was as nice as your growrooms you wouldnt have to bitch about being hungry

 

[Wariat]

When the asians expansion will begin, we will have a really big problem. Only every third ppl on earth is non asian. Imagine what will hapen, when they goverments will no longer able to control them. In 2050, only every fourth ppl on earth will be non asian. I believe, that this will be reason for WW3.

About feeding people, this is not a problem at all. GMO its unavoidable. Even if ther will be 20 billion ppl on earth. Kill all animals, grow and eat only vegetables.

If ppl eat only vegetables, we could use our shit as fertilizers !!! We are almost self-sufficient.

Anyway, i believe in the "consciousness of the universe". Maybe this sound stupid for you. But think ...

Not along ago, there was a giant comete flying in the direction of our solar system. Then something really weerd hapen. The biggest solar-flare from several years exploded exactly in the comete direction and push it away from us. How would you call it ?? Accident ?? I dont think so

Isnt fractal structure of universe provide about his conciousness ?? At every level of existence, we see the same structure. From atom, to galaxy, everything has the same shape but in different scale.

Even better. Scientists in CERN almost prove, that the elementary particles such as quarks or bosons existing only when we are observing them !!!

So our thoughts affect on the reality heh ....

This is why i believe, that when the time comes, the universe will take back what he gave to us, because we not used that opportunity. We should focus on extending our knowledge, and enhance our consciousness, instead of pleasing ourselve in every aspect of life.

Faith is everything. Not in god as the religions describe him, but in the ubiquitous consciousness of the universe which passes through everything, also human being.

This is what somebody will call soul

good luck for everyone

PS. im not crazy, and im not follower of any church.

 

[Craven_au]

If people really think we can support such large populations they are just plain wrong. Just because we have "intelligence" doesn't mean we're above nature. Do you see other animals multiplying with the rates we have and need the nutrition we need. NO. Just look outside, you'll learn a lot. We've been trying to exclude ourselves from natural selection and now it's catching up to us. That's fine with me. We can't keep using up the natural resources we have at the rates we do and most technology does more harm than good. Nuclear...NO WAY...what do we do with the waster? Send it into space so we can pollute that too? Renewable resources are the only way to sustain, that's why the earth is alive, it renews itself. Aquaponic's (not as hard as people will lead you to believe) and self-sustainability is honestly the way to go. Make your own ecosystem and live off that. I hope that everyone does know that when you get the proper nutrition you actually don't need as many calories. It's about a balanced diet. Cut back on eating. All these large scale grows and mass production of things don't work. Everyone needs to sustain themselves, that's really the answer. You can't depend on someone else to keep you alive. Humanity is an emotion, not logic. We need to stop spending resources on people that don't need it spent on. I'm not talking about 3rd world countries here either. I'm talking about the sick that we keep alive, the babies that aren't supposed to be born but are, continuance of genetics that are supposed to be out of the gene pool. Death is natural, it's supposed to happen and it needs to happen. At some point you gotta stand back and say, how important are we really?

Oh, what are we gonna do when we mine all of our natural resources and the things that are the raw materials we use to make our technology are gone?

Could not be more true well said

 

[Craven_au]

Wariat what do u have agents Asians they are very nice people i only believe in one race Human that attitude is what is wrong with this place.

 

[Wariat]

Wariat what do u have agents Asians they are very nice people i only believe in one race Human that attitude of yours is what is wrong with this place.

I have nothing to asians, or any other race/skin color.

But there isn't much ppl in the world who think the same way Aparhaid, and slavery in early usa prove this. Hitler and nazi. Military conflicts all over the globe.

BTW, if there will be referendum. Open borders, and fill your country with asians to rich 300% of it primary population, you will vote for yes ??? Answer yourself, not me

 

[kaze420]

people would realize food is hard to come by for most of the world. Most go to the store and pick whatever they want. Use the warm climate seasons to start a veggie garden, save some money and plant some weed and cover scents for it.

Eat healthy but don't over eat. Think about desert climates winter. they have to import much food right? spare what you need. Think about what you throw out.

6.5bil now so 9bil by 2050, depending out the social situations, war, famine, weather.. i think looking at current times. easily doable. it's just where is the money and time to get it done..

 

[Craven_au]

Sorry Bro i wish we all could think the same and get over our petty differences

 

[kaze420]

but how many will die off, starving, not being able to reproduce because of hunger. it's happening now but the population goes up.

once it goes 9bill will it drop then? grow more

 

[arcticsun]

Well, I'm pretty sure I hit puberty when I was 18 (Got armpit hair while I was in the Army,lol!), so I'll come back as an equal in the conversation in another 15 years or so... just in time for you to hit senility..

LMAO.

LMAO... you do have a lovely sense of humor ill give you that!

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I have nothing to asians, or any other race/skin color.

But there isn't much ppl in the world who think the same way Aparhaid, and slavery in early usa prove this. Hitler and nazi. Military conflicts all over the globe.

is your point that racism was prevalent among previous generations' ruling class? Do you think the wars in the Middle east are racially motivated? How does that relate to "there isn't much ppl in the world who think the same way"? this is 2010 and the pockets of intense racism in the world are shrinking and fading... The new racism is religious fanaticism...

BTW, if there will be referendum. Open borders, and fill your country with asians to rich 300% of it primary population, you will vote for yes ??? Answer yourself, not me

Are they going to pay taxes and vote liberal?

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

LMAO... you do have a lovely sense of humor ill give you that!

he's a sharp guy with a level head who'll be someone to reckon with once his brain fills in. just hope I stay cognizant long enough to see it, if his predictions are prophetic I'll be over the cuckoo's nest by then

 

[Wariat]

is your point that racism was prevalent among previous generations' ruling class? Do you think the wars in the Middle east are racially motivated? How does that relate to "there isn't much ppl in the world who think the same way"? this is 2010 and the pockets of intense racism in the world are shrinking and fading... The new racism is religious fanaticism...

No. I only think that there is big amount of hate in almost every ppl, and race/skin color for them is one of the best way to relase this hate

Are they going to pay taxes and vote liberal?

Is this really only requirement for you ??? So you representing your government in all aspect of your life ??

Go to work, make some money, do some shopping, and you will feel fullfilled.

Taxes, voting, working, buying, watching TV, news, politicians. MONEY MONEY MONEY Hah. Wake up bro.. Wake up...