King's Kush stolen GHS shit like usual?

[DocLeaf]

There's way too much hating happening here

Every breeder does their thing a little way different..!

I fail to understand why people think the largest seed company in the world could not secure these cuts.

Indeed,, we dont "keep" cuttings,, but if we did,, we'd probably chuck-one or two to them rago (free) ,, if they asked,, having grown all their strains between us for free in the past... what goes around comes around.,, and we're waiting on Arjan to crack open his landrace seed-stash and gift some genetics back to the global cannabis community,, to which GHSco firmly belong.

When other seed companies start travelling the globe again,, in search of heirloom and landrace seed genetics,, like Shantibaba, GrowDoc,, No Mercy et al. did during the 1990's ,, something Gypsy and GHSco still do today,, then maybe people can start casting stones at people.

GHSco India : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfpgAcSMomQ

Erb, roots, culture,
Peace, love , unity
DocLeaf

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Yup, likewise the incredible double standards used to judge breeders. Look at the Rez forum, the guy recreates and crosses elite cuts, much to everybody's joy ....and uses the original names. GHS do it and all of a sudden Arjan and Franco are complete and utter kitten squashing bastards.

I could go on, at length, but you know what I am on about.

Even Serious Seeds runs one, Bubblegum, a clone from Indiana, IIRC originally developed by the late great Silverback, they recreated it and everybody is very happy.

Read this slowly. And then read it again.

Church.

Tell you what, I will even quote it again.

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

I bought a 10 pack of kings kush cuz of this thread today; will be back with pictures....

We'll see what it is

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=158367

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Rezdog recreates clone only varieties in male/female form and inbreeds the seedline, not only that he uses VERIFIED cuts...Greenhouse just takes whatever clone they can get their dirty little hands on, feminizes it, and sells it under the same name. Don't compare Rezdog to those clowns.

Rez has made Femmed S1's before iirc, and has only inbred one line, SD, with some saying it is not that IBL anyway.

As he himself later pointed out, they also use "VERIFIED cuts"

They do not "just takes whatever clone they can get their dirty little hands on, feminizes it, and sells it under the same name"... if you paid attention to his words, it looks like they have had problems feminising the Chemdog91 cut, so it has not been released.

So, you are completely wrong about everything you so rudely said, and to cap it all, you have given me the first neg repping I have had in 2.5 years on here. Well done.

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Totally agree with ya Rez do you happen to know anything about the original Kings Kush from somewhere in Cali? I figure the shit might have came by your nose sometime in the past? Also props for that good ol M/F selection that's how I plan to start and with continue to do it that way from there out..

edit: I saw a page back you answered my question already thanks bro and happy breeding! I never get the chance to purchase your gear but someday...

... but you missed the post where I asked you to explain how "GHS are producing a plant that cannot be cloned" ?

 

[vonforne]

So basically, I'm one of the few people here who is able to give an unbiased review of the GHS seeds which I have actually grown out, because all of that arjan VS shanti stuff means nothing to me.

You said yourself that you haven't even bought seeds in years, so how do you know what their new seeds are like? I understand that you have a problem with Arjan, but I take it then that you are basing your position on your personal feelings and not on any factual or personal, first hand experience with any of the newer seeds.

I am a member of several underground Med sites that do buy his seeds and have had NOTHING good to say. I have also grown out strains from him through the sites.......they came in breeder packs. I have no problem with Arjan.....I met him in 95, 96 and 97.
Nice man. I am not basing my opinion on a personal note.....just one of experience brought through years of growing. I guess I am not one of the New age growers we see lately.............

As far as strains I have some that have been around longer than most of you. LOL and that is no shit!

New strains..........which ones are that. New names only to me. And I do not rate a name.

V

 

[greenhead]

Nice man. I am not basing my opinion on a personal note.....just one of experience brought through years of growing. I guess I am not one of the New age growers we see lately.............

Fair enough.

I wonder what a new age grower is though. I've always associated that name with something negative. Maybe I'm thinking about the music style.

 

[vonforne]

Fair enough.

I wonder what a new age grower is though. I've always associated that name with something negative. Maybe I'm thinking about the music style.

Do not take that as a negative. I am old fashion.......I grow in dirt because it is easy and what I have always done. But I do like new music. The rest of me is set in one way or another.

V

 

[deathtosoapbar]

Look at the Rez forum, the guy recreates and crosses elite cuts, much to everybody's joy ....and uses the original names. GHS do it and all of a sudden Arjan and Franco are complete and utter kitten squashing bastards.

:friends: Man you made my day , i cracked up laughing when i read that! Quality!

 

[theHIGHlander]

Back On Topic:
Factoid: Reeferman brought a bunch of his Parent Stock to Amsterdam several years ago.
If GHS has a "king's cross" clone,it's probably from when Reef and Derry from Barney's had a falling-out in a partnership that never worked out-and Derry kept a shit-pile of Reef's P1 Stock....That'd be my guess.
GHS' "bubba kush" IS actually based ("femmd") on the legit Bubba Kush Clone,and their ("femmd") Trainwreck is based on the TW-Arcata Cut,which they also possess. Fwiw.



Cheers!

nice 1 Rez (props). can yall see the last few lines.......
hear is another good breeder stepping out and saying the gear is the real deal......femmimg love it or hate it,,this is how greenhouse roll so get used to it......if you dont like, dont buy simple as peeps....there are plently of other breeders/seed banks out there.

if i remember right am sure, GHS said the grape was from a old skool stock ,,,so Rez saying reeferman took it to the dam years ago would make me think this is where GHS got there cut no? yeh?......

anyway just stop bashing....make your own mind up....1 other thing...are GHS haters saying people that grow GH gear , are daft, silly, stupid, shit grower, ect ect ect...to me that is just pure disrepectful + thats how it come across most of the time.....

peace out, lodsa good vibes to yall


keep it green
highlander

 

[Sativa_Grows]

GHSco India : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfpgAcSMomQ

Erb, roots, culture,
Peace, love , unity
DocLeaf

LOL, that does NOT prove your point. Quite the opposite, Arjan and Franco went fucking around with landraces while they were in India. That warrants zero respect.

They do not "just takes whatever clone they can get their dirty little hands on, feminizes it, and sells it under the same name"... if you paid attention to his words, it looks like they have had problems feminising the Chemdog91 cut, so it has not been released

Sorry to ruin your image of the your oh so perfect, self proclaimed, king of cannabis...but that is exactly what he does. None of their selfed clone only varieties produce anything even remotely close to the original clone...

 

[nnep]

... but you missed the post where I asked you to explain how "GHS are producing a plant that cannot be cloned" ?

I think the person who said that was referring to the ever-growing emphasis on fem'd seeds that they are displaying.

And no, i don't think GHS failed, they're just successful and juat like any other successful company they have a large crowd of haters.

I think think of a lot more shady breeders if i wanted to.

 

[Thundurkel]

... but you missed the post where I asked you to explain how "GHS are producing a plant that cannot be cloned" ?

I can admit when I am wrong and I had things mixed up since the two pages seemed to run together in a Skunk mag of mine. The issue is God's and Monsters and has a article about Feminized Seeds and then right after that. You have a page on Dr. Frankenbeans which I will quote the first paragraph....

Quoted from Dr.Frakenbeans words by Joe Pietri

"Are your expensive female seeds hard to clone, or when you try to breed them all you get are hermaphrodites? Thank Dr.Frankenbeans aka Skunkman, real name @%#$#**#^%. At a 1997 Vancouver hemp conference, Watson spoke of his research. His main focus was to stop growers from cloning or being able to create any seeds, from strains being bred in Amsterdam. The funding for this research came partially from the Dutch government. Many of his other projects involved breeding hemp strains, weakening the original medicinal strains. The Dutch government even furnished three large greenhouses for Dr.Frankenbeans to do his heinous experiments possibly becoming the Monsanto of the cannabis seed industry."

So you all can see I've taken a pic of the pages, also after reading that I would never want to fuck with fem seeds AT ALL!

It was the pic of the those stupid colored fem seeds next to the Frankenbeans article I started mixing folks up and thought it was Arjan but it was Skunkman so they say... Hope I don't get banned I'm just quoting what any user here has access too...

 

[REZDOG]

Hi all.
One last Factoid:
GHS still has its' (Shanti's Period) SSH P1 Stock,too.
Sorry,haters,but it IS legit.
IMO GHS is polluting growrooms with their "femmd" dreck & disingenuous
marketing campaign.
At lunch last year I offered Arjan (basically) all my P1 Stock,IF he'd ONLY breed M/F with them,for FREE.
I wanted the genetics spread wider,for the good of the community.
No dice.
That said,Arjan offered me any new,"femmd" GHS stock to try,I have yet to,as the S1
"chemdog" (that they never released due to S1 FAIL!) was the only one
that interested me-just to see it nose-dive just as I knew it would have.

I'll get you guys an inexpensive,M/F,"elite"-based release so's you can compare painlessly.


Cheers!

 

[VerdantGreen]

LOL, that does NOT prove your point. Quite the opposite, Arjan and Franco went fucking around with landraces while they were in India. That warrants zero respect.


Sorry to ruin your image of the your oh so perfect, self proclaimed, king of cannabis...but that is exactly what he does. None of their selfed clone only varieties produce anything even remotely close to the original clone...

Sativa_Grows, ive never seen you post about anything on IC except your hatred for GHS - thats kind of tragic.

im sure Arjan is crying all the way to the bank

personally my feelings about whichever seedbank dont really run below indifference - i just cant see how people can get so worked up about stuff like that.

V.

 

[VerdantGreen]

,,,
IMO GHS is polluting growrooms with their "femmd" dreck & disingenuous
marketing campaign.
....

hi REZ, when i was at the hemp expo in london a couple months back i was searching all the seedbanks for regular seeds - very few had any and i was told more than once that the reason for this was that 99% of their customers want fem seeds.

greenhouse werent there btw .

V

 

[tmu]

Inexpensive? =)

 

[Thundurkel]

hi REZ, when i was at the hemp expo in london a couple months back i was searching all the seedbanks for regular seeds - very few had any and i was told more than once that the reason for this was that 99% of their customers want fem seeds.

greenhouse werent there btw .

V

Yea but that 99% is just lazy newbie's that don't know how to tell a male from a female quick enough. Also don't want to be smart by selecting a keeper from a pack and clone it that way the whole crop is equal quality. But they think these fem seeds are as good as clones and it's sad, I've only grown out a bagseed and I have to say it's been the funnest growing experience I've had yet. Reason being is I don't know what kind of cool shit I may have and with GOOD genetics you will ALWAYS find something to keep.

Also that Strain Hunters shit has been said to be BULLSHIT on many forums and the fields they show of supposed Malawi Gold is GHS seed stock planted in the fields for a staged show...

 

[Green Supreme]

Pretty sure Kings Cross is a Reeferman cross of a local cut called the King {If I had to guess I would say its a Purple Skunk cross} and a Kush. Huge thread, but not much info really. Peace GS

 

[VerdantGreen]

Yea but that 99% is just lazy newbie's that don't know how to tell a male from a female quick enough.....

or, some people dont want to/cant keep mums or grow plants that they are only going to throw away.

if 99% of growers want fem seeds you can hardly blame the seedbanks for providing fem seeds...

V.