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Help identifying males (please)

Mr. Greengenes

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Don't sweat the males too much, they really do take some time to develop flowers, in spite of what J.C. says (sometimes I wonder if he has any experience at all, the stuff I hear). They're not going to just jump up and drop clouds of pollin in the space of a couple hours, believe me. In fact, they have to 'turn down' first. That's where the flower develops to the point where it points downwards. A few hours later, or the next day, the flower opens. It still doesn't drop right away. The freshly opened flower will take about an hour 'till it's ready to pour pollin. At that point, the pollin is still a little wet and will fall straight down into your collecting tool. That's the best time to collect it, later on it's lighter and can blow around easier. If you plan to store it, make sure you dry it some first. A package of silica gel in a small jar works well.
 

guest2012y

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Ouote:"If you plan to store it, make sure you dry it some first. A package of silica gel in a small jar works well." ....Good advice Greengenes,I always make sure it's dry before storage. Also a cool idea about collecting it wet. I used to just keep my peepers on em' and then strip away all but one group of flowers. Then I would stick a baggie with a twist tie over them when they looked ready to drop.
 

growclean

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Ohhh! I am pissed. I think that I can concretely tell that 6 out of my 8 are males for sure and the other 2 I can't tell yet. I will take some pics and post them tomorrow to see if you can help tell me for sure. Do you think if the other two are not showing yet that it means they are likely females? If I get all males I am going to be bummed.... Failure (me).
 
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vonforne

Ohhh! I am pissed. I think that I can concretely tell that 6 out of my 8 are males for sure and the other 2 I can't tell yet. I will take some pics and post them tomorrow to see if you can help tell me for sure. Do you think if the other two are not showing yet that it means they are likely females? If I get all males I am going to be bummed.... Failure (me).

if there are males then it is of no failure of yourself......it is just genetics. Wait for a week or so make sure he is male.....cut him back so he does not flower out yet and use him later to make some seeds.....if y<u want.

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VerdantGreen

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if nothing else keep them around to learn better what they look like as they become definitely male or female - thats a good thing to learn.

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growclean

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Yeah, I know it is a good lesson, and nothing that everyone else hasn't went through and learned already. And really, that is why I did that first seeding. Still, it is hard... they looked sooooo good now and I was counting on them a little... Oh well, I have alot to grow still and alot of good strains... I am still counting on some of them though... LOL!
 
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PastorJ

Male & Female Cannabis

Male & Female Cannabis

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VerdantGreen

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its not over till its over - if you get less girls than you wanted you can veg them for a bit longer or even take cuttings. as you can see from the pic above the primordia look fairly similar and you dont know for sure till you see two hairs coming out the top (femal) or it develops into a nut

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guest2012y

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This is great,I remember seeing this back in the day when I was learning to identify male flowers. What ever happened to Ed?...I got him baked once on some herb I grew in the early 90's. He said,"pretty good" and that's all he said.
 

Mr. Greengenes

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Growclean, don't chop those yet. I'm with VG, "It ain't over 'till it's over". I recently purchased some seeds in B.C. One strain, 'Burmese' didn't get 100% germination, and all the seedlings first showed a male flower. I was bummed and thought I got a batch of males. Good thing I didn't chop 'em right away, because about half changed their minds and went to the other side of the fence, so to speak. I know, a lot of people are thinking, "hermie alert!", but there's more. The choice Burmese clone, which started life as a fence straddler, hasn't popped another 'ball' again, and she's spread to five gardens now, and counting. I sent word to 'keep an eye on her' cuts, but I have a feeling that was unneccessary advice. Moral of the story? There's lots more to the hermie issue than meets the eye. All is NOT known yet.
 

growclean

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Growclean, don't chop those yet. I'm with VG, "It ain't over 'till it's over". I recently purchased some seeds in B.C. One strain, 'Burmese' didn't get 100% germination, and all the seedlings first showed a male flower. I was bummed and thought I got a batch of males. Good thing I didn't chop 'em right away, because about half changed their minds and went to the other side of the fence, so to speak. I know, a lot of people are thinking, "hermie alert!", but there's more. The choice Burmese clone, which started life as a fence straddler, hasn't popped another 'ball' again, and she's spread to five gardens now, and counting. I sent word to 'keep an eye on her' cuts, but I have a feeling that was unneccessary advice. Moral of the story? There's lots more to the hermie issue than meets the eye. All is NOT known yet.

I'm not cutting down anything yet. I am smart enough to know that I am to dumb to tell yet anyway. I will watch and update this thread... I need to try to get some good macro shots to see if you all think that I am on the mark anyway. This is my first go around at this particular rodeo....:shooty:
 

growclean

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Ok, so I did identify two as females for sure (I think...:hide:), but I moved them to the flower room. These other 6, the jury is still out. The one I think is female also, the others either male or I don't know what the hell I am doing... and I don't... know what the hell I am doing...:whee:

So here goes:

 

2-COOH

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the fifth picture looks like the start of a new branch, that can sometimes look like a male pre-flower. I agree with the other posts that it takes a WHILE for male flower to produce pollen, so let them grow out for a while so you'll definitely know, and know for the future.
I have also seen female flowers protrude slightly with small stem growth below them and in the beginning they also look like male pre-flowers.
 

TanzanianMagic

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Ok, so I did identify two as females for sure (I think...:hide:), but I moved them to the flower room. These other 6, the jury is still out. The one I think is female also, the others either male or I don't know what the hell I am doing... and I don't... know what the hell I am doing...:whee:

So here goes:


(From left to right and top row first:)

1) Male
2) Male
3) Male
4) Male - most likely - wait until the pre-flower gets bigger
5) Too blurry to tell
6) Female - two beautiful pistils
 

etinarcadiaego

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I recently has a plant that appeared to have a male-ish preflower. Standard ball on a stick . . .

I didn't cull it as I had no reason too.

Turned out NOT to be a male preflower, but a freak branch growing out of the node, like a preflower would.

Turns out this has happened to others, often, here's a pic (not mine):

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TanzanianMagic

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You can see at least two pistils on the left side. Sometimes you can get hermies of course. However, if you have two clear pistils and one flower that could be indeterminate, you should presume that the plant is female. Or you can just remove the one male flower and hope there aren't more.
 

beejium

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if you have space and room, clone that female. or practice cloning male or house plants, so when the time comes you can clone female plants with ease. my mom taught me how to clone jade plants years ago. i thank her for that, because they are a lot harder to clone than weed. ...something to think about in the near future anyway.
 
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