Outdoor at 10,000 ft ASL??? Is it possible?

[Bud Spleefman]

Okay, I need advice, and man, am I impressed with the ourdoor grows in the forum, so I thought I'd ask.

I have access to private land at 10,000 ft, and I have Dr.'s Recs for plants. I'm not going to say exactly how many, but it's significant. I can easily have 20 in flower, and have no worries. I am an indoor grower who normally takes off when ever my harvest is done in June, and starts again when it cools off during the day again, around Sept. 1. However, I AM LEGAL! So, I want to do an outdoor grow this summer. Like I said, my land is at 10,000 ft. It snows until May, and might start again in September. It might be high 40's at night, even in summer. It could hail at any minute. Elk or Deer are around constantly.

However, I have privacy, and water. And PATIENTS! I have to try. Any suggestions, please let me know. I would love to hear from fellow Mt. Growers who have done outdoors, like what strains, methods, timing, etc..... I already know I need a fence of some sort to keep out the wildlife. I am unsure of the strains that will flower properly, given the cold nightime temps. I have no idea what will finish!

Anyway, I'd love to hear from anyone who has some info on growing in the outdoors of the Rocky Mountains.

 

[antimatter]

pineberry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npRh2Ghpp2c

 

[StickyFingerz]

I think a greenhouse is the best option.

 

[North]

Bob,

if your legal, I'd go with a greenhouse for sure.

Barring that, maturation is controled by photoperiod, so you need to know your latitude and then check out the sticky at the top of the outdoors section on finishing times for strains.

looking for fast early strains, check out canadian genetics for sure, my season sounds about the length of yours and I've been pulling off decent grows in short seasons with some canadian gear.

PM for info if you need it.

 

[ol briarhopper]

I live in a very mountainous area and their is some things to consider when growing in the mountains.A lot of folks will go too high on the mountainside too try and get their crops away from thieves but the higher you go the dryer it is.Stay as low on that terrain as you can and plant in the morning sun.The evening sun is hot and dry.An early start outdoors is a must.....if your plants are big enough before drought season comes you will do well but if not they may not make it at all.Hope this helps some.....ol briar

 

[bentom187]

i would just stay on terrafirma the dangers outway the benifits if you ask me i think at 10,000ft youll experience hypoxia aka altitude sickness you could make some bad decisions and get into serious trouble,and i doubt there will be anyone there to help.plus like other people mentioned your leagle and risking death id just do indoors or green house.

 

[antimatter]

You definitely should not be planting where you get tree flaggin, and stunted plants don't even think about it, stay where its still green and lush an increase of just a 1000 feet can have a dramatic change in when the first/last frost takes place and when spring happens. Don't even think that 70 day autoflowers are gonna work at those elevations because they will not, cold nights will stunt them so much that they will end up taking longer and not yield. Im not sure how BC and Colorado compare but 4000 feet would be my cut off and I would much prefer to stay under 3000 feet lower the better, 2000 is nice and gets frost beginning of October.

 

[Bud Spleefman]

Yes to the greenhouse. No worries about hypoxia, I live at 9,000 ft already! So, I am used to the altitude. I'll try and do a journal when I get it up and running.... but thanks for the replies... I need to order some seeds.... I still need to find the fast finishers, I don't want to be stuck pulling black out cloth over the hoop house every 12 hours........

Pineberry, huh????? I'll look for some of those Canadian quick finishers, too..... maybe some Mantanusksa T-F ?? Does that strain yield at all???

I guess the good thing about a hoop house would be that I don't have to worry about animals, or at least big ones, and I don't have to worry about hail damage, and it may even help increase humidity and keep some heat in at night. All good benefits!

 

[antimatter]

Yes to the greenhouse. No worries about hypoxia, I live at 9,000 ft already! So, I am used to the altitude. I'll try and do a journal when I get it up and running.... but thanks for the replies... I need to order some seeds.... I still need to find the fast finishers, I don't want to be stuck pulling black out cloth over the hoop house every 12 hours........

Pineberry, huh????? I'll look for some of those Canadian quick finishers, too..... maybe some Mantanusksa T-F ?? Does that strain yield at all???

I guess the good thing about a hoop house would be that I don't have to worry about animals, or at least big ones, and I don't have to worry about hail damage, and it may even help increase humidity and keep some heat in at night. All good benefits!

pineberry has good bag appeal and finishes early. + on the greenhouse.

heres some more photos

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=37097&highlight=pineberry

 

[bentom187]

good luck man,there was a debate on OG a while ago,about the UV light that reaches the plants at altitude compared to sea level and the potencey of the plants it was guessed that they ones closer to the atmosphere received more and therefor more potent,im not sure if they ever came to a conclusion but if you could i think it might be intresting to see if you could get the same phenos out of the seed you have plant a few at sea level, a control indoors and the some at 10,000ft. be careful though.

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

There are a number of very good strains that come from high in the mountains. Nepalese strains for one, comes from high in the himalayans.

Its been a while, but I used to know a formula. A single degree of lattitude is lost for every thousand feet one rises in elevation, ie: if you are at 30 degrees North and are at
10, 000 feet, it would be the equivalent of growing at the 40th lattitude North. Do some arithmetic and then choose your strains, unless that is, you build a greenhouse.

Search member/grower "Fast Pine". He is an experienced grower that grows high in the mountains. He has a number of very good posts and recommendations.

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

hmmmmmmm......

 

[antimatter]

There are a number of very good strains that come from high in the mountains. Nepalese strains for one, comes from high in the himalayans.

Its been a while, but I used to know a formula. A single degree of lattitude is lost for every thousand feet one rises in elevation, ie: if you are at 30 degrees North and are at
10, 000 feet, it would be the equivalent of growing at the 40th lattitude North. Do some arithmetic and then choose your strains, unless that is, you build a greenhouse.

Search member/grower "Fast Pine". He is an experienced grower that grows high in the mountains. He has a number of very good posts and recommendations.

Fast Pine grows in the desert and even though his elevation is high its nowhere near what id consider alpine his season is still long enough to finish Sensi Star.

Bud
Im just checking your first and last frost dates in Colorado and checking the Elevations on google Earth and its showing places with 5000 feet of elevation with a first frost date as September 20th, 6000 feet August 20 and 9200 at August 3rd, 8200 at August 13th.
Are you aware of this?
http://www.victoryseeds.com/frost/co.html

 

[cannabis59]

There are a lot of strains that you can start indoors under 18/6 on up to 24/0 that will early flower and finish in the summer faily well. I would say experiment with a few of them

 

[verticalgrower]

i been in the mountains of colorado for bout 12 years now. do outdoors every season . most of my garden spots range from a altitude of 7000 to 10000 feet its deffinatly a bit more challenging out here but its not too bad as long as prepare from the beingining to start off on the right foot. a greenhouse would be best if possible then your not limited to so few strains thatll finish in time out here and has the ability to grow in our cold nights without being stunted horribly bad. you can pull off some amazing plats at the 7 to 8k elevation range get 2 pound plants like clock work with mandala number one if it can finish in time. last season it snowed pretty hard for 3 or 4 days starting on september 16th it really fucked them up and they still needed another two weeks . ive had alot of luck with danish genetics at the 9 to 10k elevation range they do stay a bit smaller in size up there royal dane is a nice plant for areas like that can really take the cold nights . oh yeah if you know anyone who has the old hawaiian indica thats floating around the area grab it youd be amazed at now awesome that plant does outdoors out here usually is the biggest out of the garden out here with quicketest to finish and most potent she does really really well out here to say the least. someone said no autoflowers out here i woud agree unless in the greenhouse they will just stay mini micro sized fucks get angery and never finish for you in time well least where i tryed em at my spot around 10000 feet. its fun and can be a challenge to get as good garden goin in areas like here but if you dont mind you could just drive a few hours out of state where you can find much better areas to grow in . i do that when i need to pull a serious harvest. oh nother thing to consider in colorados mountains is the amount of rippers out there everyone is out there walking there dog in the mountains youd be suprised how far i been out in the midle of nowhere only to stumble upon some idiot and his dog wandering around hours and hours away from town its pretty rediculous at times

 

[Bud Spleefman]

i been in the mountains of colorado for bout 12 years now. do outdoors every season . most of my garden spots range from a altitude of 7000 to 10000 feet its deffinatly a bit more challenging out here but its not too bad as long as prepare from the beingining to start off on the right foot. a greenhouse would be best if possible then your not limited to so few strains thatll finish in time out here and has the ability to grow in our cold nights without being stunted horribly bad. you can pull off some amazing plats at the 7 to 8k elevation range get 2 pound plants like clock work with mandala number one if it can finish in time. last season it snowed pretty hard for 3 or 4 days starting on september 16th it really fucked them up and they still needed another two weeks . ive had alot of luck with danish genetics at the 9 to 10k elevation range they do stay a bit smaller in size up there royal dane is a nice plant for areas like that can really take the cold nights . oh yeah if you know anyone who has the old hawaiian indica thats floating around the area grab it youd be amazed at now awesome that plant does outdoors out here usually is the biggest out of the garden out here with quicketest to finish and most potent she does really really well out here to say the least. someone said no autoflowers out here i woud agree unless in the greenhouse they will just stay mini micro sized fucks get angery and never finish for you in time well least where i tryed em at my spot around 10000 feet. its fun and can be a challenge to get as good garden goin in areas like here but if you dont mind you could just drive a few hours out of state where you can find much better areas to grow in . i do that when i need to pull a serious harvest. oh nother thing to consider in colorados mountains is the amount of rippers out there everyone is out there walking there dog in the mountains youd be suprised how far i been out in the midle of nowhere only to stumble upon some idiot and his dog wandering around hours and hours away from town its pretty rediculous at times

Thanks for the reply.... I knew people were doing outdoor in Colorado, but it's obviusly going to take some careful planning and some luck as well. It could snow on the 4th of July, I've seen it happen! I'm definitly going the greenhouse (hoop style) route, so hopefully that will give the plants some extra protection and retain some heat if we get a frost or snow....

 

[antimatter]

Hoop houses are amazing for extending the season easily buy another month.

 

[Greenmopho]

Any luck getting this off the ground?