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DUUUDE, saw a setup tonight with coco and the plants looked TITS. Funny thing is the coco had been reused twice not moving it out of the pot at all. I quoted myself from another thread about coco...

DUDE, coco is the SHIOT. Seriously, listen to me. Tonight I went to a buddies house and he uses coco/perlite. He informed me that after every full harvest he just reuses the coco AS IS IN THE POT. He cuts a small square out of the roots in the pots and places his cutting in the pot that has already been fully rooted. He does not use any enzymes to even break down the old roots, he just goes on with a new flower NOT EVEN FLUSHING THE COCO AFTER HARVEST!!!!! My buddy has used the coco for two entire runs now on his third with this technique and I couldn't fucking believe how dank his plants looked. It's like the old roots were never even there. That's how dank coco is.

I've always bought new coco, but I will be trying this method next time saving a small amount of cashola.
 
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JeffSpicoli

wow this thread went through a whole shitstorm...
For what its worth... I believe ogp91fam.
I have ZERO reason to believe him. I didnt want to. But my friend saying his story is legit, is all i need to know.
But lets move on from all the nitpicking and bickering bullshit.
I have some girls going inside at around 8-9 weeks. I gotta get some photos going here


also.. here is another twist to the J1 story... A friend/acquaintance of mine. Says he used to live across the street from the guy who created J1...
 

subrob

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well shit, all this talk bout j1 makes me wanna run her again...heres some shots of what ive been smokin lately...

---VALLEY OG...not grown by me...bro of a bro...
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----couple shots of CHEM D nugs...gotta love a cure...
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-----MADNESS
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Natagonnaworrie

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Thats crazy looking^^^

i just got the analysis back on my valley og: 16.93% THC :dance013:

and a bunch of other crazy information about the bud too
 
That valley og looks so good!! Looks nothing like the valley og i've been getting at the local co-ops. I dont know if im allow to ask this so if im not i'll edit this post but does anyone in here grows for any of the co-ops here in san diego? Some of the buds on this thread is out of this world! Theres a co-op here in sd with the real clone only sd bullrider. The owner there says that its directly from the guy who created this strain. Im puzzled because i thought the clone only sd br is a sativa? The one at this place is an indica with huge christmas tree nugs with trichs all over.
 
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*Journeyman*

also.. here is another twist to the J1 story... A friend/acquaintance of mine. Says he used to live across the street from the guy who created J1...
I don't believe that one unless the guy lived in Amsterdam...lol. While doing research seems some think it came out of San Jose. It's a pretty easy cross to do so easy to replicate but still the name is pretty unique and it was so obscure when I came across it the information I initially came across I feel is solid. Still believe it came out of Europe many years back. Rev said there's some solid old school genes in it particularly the sativa influence.

WoW Sub those buds look pretty damn dank!
 
heres a picture of the sd br i was talking about. its not a good picture to show the nugs and these are actually the smaller nugs from the batch i got.
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Voodoo

Ok so I know I told you all I would keep the updates to once a week, but seriously, look at this sour diesel...

An idea of size...

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Holy fluorescent bud sites Batman!

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(residue on leaves is milk, i noticed a very small amount of PM and went nuts.)

and finally, some MASSIVE trikes considering this is what, mid 3rd week?

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Moldy Dreads

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examples please...if you'd be so kind......this should be interesting.


Ok man you invented and bred P91. Happy? I don't give 2 shits. Do I believe that you invented such a popular and long lived strain yet have nothing to show except 2 crappy pics of random buds, not really, but even if you did, coming on here and demanding praise with big long posts and nothing to show, old or new, is funny.

Can you add to the SD clone thread besides typing huge run-on sentences like essays on how much you did and know, it only derails the thread and seems like a shot at attracting attention.

Do you have a P91 plant? or any plant that we can see pics of and move on? This thread was started to discuss currently grown genetics, not spend 10 pages bickering about living from the past.

It gets old and reading huge run on sentences that self-proclaim you as the P91 legend, is just, well, tiring and boring..Then you get all holier-than-thou and try to threaten "alienation" LMF ass off.

We'd love to see some recent pics with more detail and info. if not you're not going to get much more love from this thick skinned crowd.....

and alienate myself?

My goal is to alienate myself from guys like you and only surround myself with females :), I have no need or desire to meet more guys (who find it important to live off some story on the 'net...)
Most humans let me down anyway, nothing personal

:whistling: LMFAO!


on with the show -

Voodoo - Is it reaking of Sour danknes yet? I had a SD clone that I kept for a good 3 years and at times only ran her. What a great bud, unlike TW and a couple others, I never get tired of Sour Diesel! Here's one of my favorite pics of that plant -


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I had a friend who pulled her in hydro at 60 days constantly and she was great, but I've ran her in soil for 70 and she had a more complex flavor and super strong in potency..came from a Reservoir seed, can't diss the guy, out of a few beans I found 2 great moms..
 
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Voodoo

Voodoo - Is it reaking of Sour danknes yet? I had a SD clone that I kept for a good 3 years and at times only ran her. What a great bud, unlike TW and a couple others, I never get tired of Sour Diesel! Here's one of my favorite pics of that plant -


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I had a friend who pulled her in hydro at 60 days constantly and she was great, but I've ran her in soil for 70 and she had a more complex flavor and super strong in potency..came from a Reservoir seed, can't diss the guy, out of a few beans I found 2 great moms..

I run my room about 70-71 flat to try and keep the smell down, so it hasn't been THAT bad. I have a feeling I may have a hell of a scent coming soon if that purple X OG is any indication... :biggrin:

I plan on running all the plants till they start to go amber on me, so the sour D is realistically looking at like 100-120 days of flowering. I want rainbow/black plants damn it!
 

ogP91fam

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Ok man you invented and bred P91. Happy? I don't give 2 shits. Do I believe that you invented such a popular and long lived strain yet have nothing to show except 2 crappy pics of random buds, not really, but even if you did, coming on here and demanding praise with big long posts and nothing to show, old or new, is funny.

Can you add to the SD clone thread besides typing huge run-on sentences like essays on how much you did and know, it only derails the thread and seems like a shot at attracting attention.

Do you have a P91 plant? or any plant that we can see pics of and move on? This thread was started to discuss currently grown genetics, not spend 10 pages bickering about living from the past.

It gets old and reading huge run on sentences that self-proclaim you as the P91 legend, is just, well, tiring and boring..Then you get all holier-than-thou and try to threaten "alienation" LMF ass off.

We'd love to see some recent pics with more detail and info. if not you're not going to get much more love from this thick skinned crowd.....

and alienate myself?

My goal is to alienate myself from guys like you and only surround myself with females :), I have no need or desire to meet more guys (who find it important to live off some story on the 'net...)
Most humans let me down anyway, nothing personal

:whistling: LMFAO!


on with the show -

i thought this was over....?
all of these rambling posts i typed were not what i wanted to come on here to talk about...again i ask you to reread. i was asked for proof, credibility, etc. I was asked basically to defend myself and my info. Again..i never asked to be questioned, but when i was, i provided the details i felt would clarify...if they didnt ok..but crazy you keep bringing this back up, making more accusations but then I am supposed to go be quiet. Yet you feel you can speak for others and tell me things like "We'd love to see some recent pics with more detail and info. if not you're not going to get much more love from this thick skinned crowd....." Really...and then you ask me if i have p91 anymore and more and more questions. When i answer...i am attacked or accused of rambling or derailing the thread....you are confusing at best.

your name calling: holier-than thou, self proclaimed legend, demanding praise, living off a story on the web...etc, etc....but i am the problem. Have i been name calling for no reason? Attacking peoples credibility. I have only been answering the questions asked. Enough, really...im not even upset, cuz it is funny to me. But anyone who read thru this neutrally would see that i am being treated as an outsider here...not the other way around. I have been questioned and maligned..again, not the other way around. ANd honestly...this is the first time in my career i have not gotten the respect i deserve and am actually suprised...im ok with it but not sure what is driving your rage...

for your questions....

since you didnt read my long annoying posts, cuz i did answer it already...i lost the p91 in 1995. im very sad about it.

My initial post was about BRAND NEW strains coming out of san diego and further, made from mostly san diego genetics...is that not enough. i posted pics and have many many more. All recent.

The old pics were because someone asked if i had any old pics of p91..again, seeking some proof. I posted an old shot...ok, whatever...sorry it irked u...again the fact that i have 20 year old pics of plants growing may offer you a hint...i have been doing this at least that long. I have many many pics of 20 year old grow rooms full of plants. Do you have any 20 year old pics of your grows?? with p91 etc growing? I was asked, and i posted, because yes i do have some. That again should be more of the so called proof you seek...i have lotsa pics. Look at the seedless clothing stickers from the 90's...p91 and eyebleed (p91 cross) are on there labeled...ask Che, of seedless clothing whose plants he photo'd for those stickers almost 20 years ago..more proof, but whatever, again....right?

More pics of recent grows...yeah, i have plenty...but i am in los angeles most of the time, so i will keep the pics limited to the san diego rooms that i work with.....just to keep this thread pure...cool?

The reason i mentioned alienation is because this is a much smaller world than you might think...it was just to let you know that if you spend too much time walking around the san diego grow scene talking bad about me, you will quickly learn how many people really love what i do and appreciate it. They would most certainly NOT like to hear you talking bad about someone they respect who has worked hard and long for the cause and given all of it away to them to work with without any compensation...i volunteer my expertise and lab work to soooo many growers in the area, that eventually, u would find yourself up against a wall trying to even mention that i was some a*hole. It was suggested to me by many not to even engage here, but i disagree and see that not only did the truth want to be known...but folks have other questions too that i can help with and will....if wanted. But again...there are already a group of friends who want me to just let this go...they are not any happier about this than me, and yes they troll the boards...just a reality check is all...not a threat or warning..but folks who speak badly against folks who others appreciate do risk alienation...just a fact of history.

enjoy your girls.....sounds fun. I have two daughters...i prefer that kind of female company. But to each his own. I do on the other hand love meeting ALL folks with absolutely anything to offer about plants....i am not better than anyone and am constantly amazed at what i learn from the newbies and experts alike....humans can be dissapointing...again, i prefer dogs...but hey, this is the nature of our world and i am not by any means an un-social person....so again, to each his own....

can this end yet? not that i need the last word, but the questions and accusations should be able to be answered fairly...
 

praisehim.

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Ok man you invented and bred P91. Happy? I don't give 2 shits. Do I believe that you invented such a popular and long lived strain yet have nothing to show except 2 crappy pics of random buds, not really, but even if you did, coming on here and demanding praise with big long posts and nothing to show, old or new, is funny.

Can you add to the SD clone thread besides typing huge run-on sentences like essays on how much you did and know, it only derails the thread and seems like a shot at attracting attention.

Do you have a P91 plant? or any plant that we can see pics of and move on? This thread was started to discuss currently grown genetics, not spend 10 pages bickering about living from the past.

It gets old and reading huge run on sentences that self-proclaim you as the P91 legend, is just, well, tiring and boring..Then you get all holier-than-thou and try to threaten "alienation" LMF ass off.

We'd love to see some recent pics with more detail and info. if not you're not going to get much more love from this thick skinned crowd.....

and alienate myself?

My goal is to alienate myself from guys like you and only surround myself with females :), I have no need or desire to meet more guys (who find it important to live off some story on the 'net...)
Most humans let me down anyway, nothing personal

:whistling: LMFAO!


-COULDNT OF SAID IT ANY BETTER.


on with the show -


Voodoo - Is it reaking of Sour danknes yet? I had a SD clone that I kept for a good 3 years and at times only ran her. What a great bud, unlike TW and a couple others, I never get tired of Sour Diesel! Here's one of my favorite pics of that plant -


picture.php


I had a friend who pulled her in hydro at 60 days constantly and she was great, but I've ran her in soil for 70 and she had a more complex flavor and super strong in potency..came from a Reservoir seed, can't diss the guy, out of a few beans I found 2 great moms..

sour d is the shit. i can smoke it all day everyday. ^^that d you got is looking dank VOODOO.

EDIT: yeah guys lets keep this thread pure.. so those of you in temecula-oceanside an outside county lines.. go away. haha. ogp91...ay yay yaaaaay. make an la thread then..excuses, excuses.

double edit:quoteI do on the other hand love meeting ALL folks with absolutely anything to offer about plants....i am not better than anyone and am constantly amazed at what i learn from the newbies and experts alike....humans can be dissapointing...again, i prefer dogs...but hey, this is the nature of our world and i am not by any means an un-social person....so again, to each his own....

you said you were a better grower than most here ^^ i can quote that to. it was something like, good luck getting to my level..never.hahaha.
 

OsWiZzLe

Active member
i thought this was over....?
all of these rambling posts i typed were not what i wanted to come on here to talk about...again i ask you to reread. i was asked for proof, credibility, etc. I was asked basically to defend myself and my info. Again..i never asked to be questioned, but when i was, i provided the details i felt would clarify...if they didnt ok..but crazy you keep bringing this back up, making more accusations but then I am supposed to go be quiet. Yet you feel you can speak for others and tell me things like "We'd love to see some recent pics with more detail and info. if not you're not going to get much more love from this thick skinned crowd....." Really...and then you ask me if i have p91 anymore and more and more questions. When i answer...i am attacked or accused of rambling or derailing the thread....you are confusing at best.

your name calling: holier-than thou, self proclaimed legend, demanding praise, living off a story on the web...etc, etc....but i am the problem. Have i been name calling for no reason? Attacking peoples credibility. I have only been answering the questions asked. Enough, really...im not even upset, cuz it is funny to me. But anyone who read thru this neutrally would see that i am being treated as an outsider here...not the other way around. I have been questioned and maligned..again, not the other way around. ANd honestly...this is the first time in my career i have not gotten the respect i deserve and am actually suprised...im ok with it but not sure what is driving your rage...

for your questions....

since you didnt read my long annoying posts, cuz i did answer it already...i lost the p91 in 1995. im very sad about it.

My initial post was about BRAND NEW strains coming out of san diego and further, made from mostly san diego genetics...is that not enough. i posted pics and have many many more. All recent.

The old pics were because someone asked if i had any old pics of p91..again, seeking some proof. I posted an old shot...ok, whatever...sorry it irked u...again the fact that i have 20 year old pics of plants growing may offer you a hint...i have been doing this at least that long. I have many many pics of 20 year old grow rooms full of plants. Do you have any 20 year old pics of your grows?? with p91 etc growing? I was asked, and i posted, because yes i do have some. That again should be more of the so called proof you seek...i have lotsa pics. Look at the seedless clothing stickers from the 90's...p91 and eyebleed (p91 cross) are on there labeled...ask Che, of seedless clothing whose plants he photo'd for those stickers almost 20 years ago..more proof, but whatever, again....right?

More pics of recent grows...yeah, i have plenty...but i am in los angeles most of the time, so i will keep the pics limited to the san diego rooms that i work with.....just to keep this thread pure...cool?

The reason i mentioned alienation is because this is a much smaller world than you might think...it was just to let you know that if you spend too much time walking around the san diego grow scene talking bad about me, you will quickly learn how many people really love what i do and appreciate it. They would most certainly NOT like to hear you talking bad about someone they respect who has worked hard and long for the cause and given all of it away to them to work with without any compensation...i volunteer my expertise and lab work to soooo many growers in the area, that eventually, u would find yourself up against a wall trying to even mention that i was some a*hole. It was suggested to me by many not to even engage here, but i disagree and see that not only did the truth want to be known...but folks have other questions too that i can help with and will....if wanted. But again...there are already a group of friends who want me to just let this go...they are not any happier about this than me, and yes they troll the boards...just a reality check is all...not a threat or warning..but folks who speak badly against folks who others appreciate do risk alienation...just a fact of history.

enjoy your girls.....sounds fun. I have two daughters...i prefer that kind of female company. But to each his own. I do on the other hand love meeting ALL folks with absolutely anything to offer about plants....i am not better than anyone and am constantly amazed at what i learn from the newbies and experts alike....humans can be dissapointing...again, i prefer dogs...but hey, this is the nature of our world and i am not by any means an un-social person....so again, to each his own....

can this end yet? not that i need the last word, but the questions and accusations should be able to be answered fairly...


dude i love smoking a phat bowl of the Chem D everytime i read one of your responses lol ....

your going like 90mph in a 20mph zone....slow your roll ...

at this point your beyond non-credible ...the only thing that can save u is PICS...really nice ones....and especially of this heirloom P91 u claim to have....that would give u something...until then...u should go make an account at T H C F A R M E R .com....i'm sure the Tool Farm would eat up your story faster then Chemfather met Chemdog

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ogP91fam

Member
i have more experience and education than anybody that i have met here yet is all. That is just true, it doesnt mean i know it all or that i have nothing i can learn from others. I do grow in san diego and the strains i posted about are there....so, they sure would not fit into an l.a. thread. sorry again if you dont like me...its ok.

back to the question about my nutes....i would love to answer better, now that i am back on the clock....i get paid for this...lol.

I love Fulvic acid because nothing is a better chelating agent on earth. Then add the other amazing properties like the fact it contains every micro, macro nutrient, amino acid, etc. on earth....then bring in its antibiotic, antiviral, and antifungul characteristics and it is just unbeatable. It is SOOOO active! And the best part is that it chelates so well that it leaves everything you put into your mix so small that it is much more readily available to the plants, and then to the next important point.....

Foliar feed when you can...nothing beats it. I dont suggest foliar feeding past 2weeks into flower, but for clones on up to then, nothing will get you better, more immediate and accurate results. And when you use the fulvic as a base, you dont need to worry about spray timing...when stomatii are open, etc. because this delivery system will allow your mix to penetrate into the plant tissue even thru the waxy dermal layers...there are microscopic cracks in the epidermis that the fulvic mix can slide right thru anytime. It is so great with all the nutrients with the exceptions of the non-mobiles....you need to get those directly to the root zone as well....

With a good lab report (see the one below i added for an example) you can see exactly what is being absorbed into the roots and leaves, and then you can adjust your mix of nutes accordingly...spray, then retest to see how it responded. It is really nice to be able to do this....but i know many can not get all of this info and so i will simply say that if you are just asking me for an opinion on the best over the counter ferts...simple and effective, i would say General Hydro flora series...the 3 part one with the pink, green, and brownish red micros...but i would never suggest you use it in the so-called 'lucas valley' formula because it just doenst make any sense to use that way. It is made to be used with all three parts adjusted to needs of plant....never just two....that is my only disclaimer on that....

my best/favorite choice......foliar with a fulvic blend when possible. Lotsa info...tissue reports and good ph monitoring and regulating....purest water to start with...R.O. is most cost effective and start from scratch, know what is in the mix and see how the plant reacts...my humble .02

(edit to add: if you are feeling like a show-off (since so many figure i know nothing or that they know so much more than me) or just wanna good test, the plant in the lab report below was dying....some of the levels should tell you that, as they are off the charts....any ideas on why? what is going on or going wrong? again...i do this for a living so i dont expect most to be able to assess the cause from this report but it is possible...not to say i am better, but i am good at what i do.. Solved this one and made the plant happy and moved on.....)

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JeffSpicoli

dude Praishim... Dont be telling people if they arent from within san diego county lines, they cant post in this thread... WTF is that?
This thread is about san diego genetics., or whats going on in SD... It doesnt matter if you live in SD or not.. If you have something to contribute, then post it...

I dont like how lots of people in this thread seem to have like a attitude. Almost like an entitlement.. Almost reminds me of surfers, and keeping spots 'localized' and such.

ENOUGH WITH THE BULLSHIT BAD VIBES.

from this point forward. lets end any discussion/bickering towards/with ogp91fam.
Everyone has said there part. lets move on.

Im kinda disapointed in the way some of you have behaved


oh ya.. and smokingbuddah.. There is NO WAY that is BR.. Doesnt matter what enviroment, or setup that was grown in. There is 0 chance those nugs are the real deal original BR. im 99.9% certain.
 

humbleguy

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Hey OGP91- I noted the date on your analysis. Is this a cannabis tissue analysis? I'm liking you more every minute. I told ya, A picture is worth a thousand words :biggrin:

Now let's get focused and start you up a thread. If you have access to regular plant tissue analysis then you should be hooking the community up. I agree with your statements regarding humate derivatives and would like to hear more. Just not here. This is where we throw our finest cuts.
 

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