Question for the pros

[Sturmovik]

Greetings we have a small medical outdoor we do every year nets enough for personal smoke for most of the year we would like to be able to yield some more so we dont run out mid year here is the setup and this years change

20 <Afghani??> Trainwreck
1 Bubba Kush <my insomnia fix> <no chemicals decided yet>

Outdoor open air in soil with Batpoop


Chemicals --- Maxi grow big and swell

Yield last year bout half lb per plant

Planting in April ish harvesting around october please let me know using this formula how can we improve
thank you in advance

 

[daydreamer]

I would add more organic materials to the soil. start a compost pile of your kitchen scraps, grass clippings, leaves etc. then add some bone meal and green sand to where you place the plants.

 

[Sturmovik]

Thank you for responding Ill pass that to the guys <i only have my bubba this season>

 

[Hank Hemp]

study this http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=53792

 

[LAMBS-BREAD]

This is some over 10 pound trees here from Tom Hill the Killer!

As u can see roots have plenty of space and soilmix. Add a good water schedule to this and u good to go bro.

If i remember right those are from clones. Long veg + Lst + Topping or FIM and u can make 3 years of smoke

 

[moonie]

Along with the Bat Guano add some Sea bird Guano, but I wouldnt change much if it's working for ya. The bird guano just has more P the bat guano more N, that way you'd have a little more equal nute level in the soil. Plants may get a little taller too, means higher yeilds.

 

[Sturmovik]

yeah all the above we do works but the yield is kinda disappointing on a 6 foot plant

me personaly id love a big yield so i dont even have to consider rationing untill im about to yank the next season
thanks for the guide and the suggestions so far

and i love the tom hill pics dont have that big of space XD but yeah id Loooooooooooove my bubba to be that big i think its starting in a 15 gal

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

The most important key to getting a high yield, indoors or out, is the right genetics. You can feed a slow vegging, compact indica all you want and it'll never yield as much as an aggressive rooting, tree growing, early finishing hybrid under the same conditions. In the quest for yield, Nature beats out Nurture.

 

[guest2012y]

The most important key to getting a high yield, indoors or out, is the right genetics. You can feed a slow vegging, compact indica all you want and it'll never yield as much as an aggressive rooting, tree growing, early finishing hybrid under the same conditions. In the quest for yield, Nature beats out Nurture.

I would say,"YEP" to that. Genetics are the biggest factor in yield. There are things you can do to increase yield,like removing all the tiny sucker branches off the bottom of a plant,etc.,etc.,but it's in the genes of the greens!

 

[beekler]

Adding some powdered dolomite probably wouldn't hurt either, as I understand it.

 

[VerdantGreen]

get em out earlier so they veg for longer - or start them off indoors if you need to.

and yes, genetics.

V.

 

[Sturmovik]

they are starting in the baby stage under 24 hour lights we weed the sickly out early that way then in the ground they will go the bubba is getting a 15 gal bucket so i gotta figure max potential there hehehe

 

[Clackamas Coot]

To be sure - genetics ARE important - up to a point.

Background: I grew out some genetics from 'the old days' (circa 1983) from Africa. And after picking out the proverbial 'keeper' I took several cuttings, rooted them and passed them around the Oregon MMJ deal.

I was able to visit 5 gardens which were running 'my genetics' and I have to tell you that no one could have identified the plants from these 5 gardens as coming from the very same 'mother plant' - meaning that while genetics are certainly an important component in a successful grow - that's a given - other factors may be equally important.

The ol' 'phenotype vs genotype' discussion/argument.

Peace

CC

 

[VerdantGreen]

if you are in pots then the bigger the better for max yield!

V.

 

[guest2012y]

To be sure - genetics ARE important - up to a point.

Background: I grew out some genetics from 'the old days' (circa 1983) from Africa. And after picking out the proverbial 'keeper' I took several cuttings, rooted them and passed them around the Oregon MMJ deal.

I was able to visit 5 gardens which were running 'my genetics' and I have to tell you that no one could have identified the plants from these 5 gardens as coming from the very same 'mother plant' - meaning that while genetics are certainly an important component in a successful grow - that's a given - other factors may be equally important.

The ol' 'phenotype vs genotype' discussion/argument.

Peace

CC

Funny you say that because..............I had a rather large outdoor grow and grew some monster mamas. Well right next door,not more than 25 feet from mine were my friend and neighbors outdoor plants.....same strain,same water,and I gave him step by step instructions on what I was using to grow. Halfway through the flower he asks me why his buds don't look like mine....and they didn't! Mine were huge,stinky,and just looked better. His were small,yet still the genetics gave him good bud,but clearly there was a difference in growing technique.

 

[Kcar]

Dig BIG holes - put lots of good stuff in the holes.

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

Don't know who you're hanging with up there CC, but when two good growers grow the same clone in my neighborhood, the results are amazingly similar, not different. Environment only shapes phenotype through stress. Remove all the stresses (only theoretically possible) and you'll see the genes express themselves completely. Product will be identical. I've even grown a clone indoors that was indistinguishable from it's outdoor sister.

 

[guest2012y]

I'm pretty confident the difference between me and my neighbor's outdoor was that he was doing shit different. He didn't dig big holes and amend them with the exact things I did,he didn't water like I did,and his feedings,although I told him what I was using,were probably not the same. We grew Bubbleberry,the potency was the same,the smell was the same,the taste a bit different,but his buds looked like a retarded sister. If you were not familiar with pot and how it looks,you would have thought it was different. However, the smoke was almost exactly the same. I don't know what my point is,I guess this is just an observation I made of what two exact clones and different grower methods had shown me.

 

[Sturmovik]

well id like to thank you all for good advice Ill post another Q once we get to the planting

 

[Sturmovik]

Update

Soil is going to be Foxfarm ocean forest