Going back to post one - if it tastes like dirt it may even be fungi and dust issues in the outdoors. I once had a friend ranting on about his beautiful organic shit he used to grow outdoors, in tune with nature. Only dirt, organics (shit and shit) and sunlight. All sounds good. So he was telling myself and a couple of bros we were heathens for growing hydro indoors and our weed tasted like chemicals - whereas his tasted and smelt like dirt (all natural and naturally full of shit). After smoking some of his weed it definitely tasted a bit like dirt (dirty) and smelt moldy and just smoked up wrong. I worked in the tobacco industry then (yep sorry to all cancer patients out there) and tested it for fungi. Sure enough he was growing a pretty impressive micro culture list of fungi - the bio mass was way up there with several fungi and bacteria species. One of the fungi that was on his bud was A.flavus. A.flavus produces aflatoxins which are mycotoxins. Mycotoxins are just under 2000 times more toxic than the most toxic pesticides but hey they're organic right so they've got to be good. Mycotoxins survive combustion so you're inhaling toxic nasties straight into your lungs with every spliff. Seriously bad for immunosuppressed individuals. The guy concerned didn't want to hear that his shit was carcinogenic and a organic time bomb that even the tobacco industry wouldn't sell. Funny stuff is the same guy wouldn't accept a lighter to spark up his joints and instead used matches because they're all natural (missing the point that matches are man made, use phosphorous to ignite, and that trees die to produce matches). You just can't seem to rationalize with some people. Organic freaks have some strange ideas. Med should be grown indoors. Keep it clean.
C
coxswain
I've done my first grow last season and it was outdoor. I've never in my 20 years smoked such fine herbs. Taste, quality and long-lasting high in all of the strains I've grown. I remember smoking similar stuff back when I started (old school) but after that it was all very potent indoor stuff with quick tolerance build-up. It was natural for us to smoke the fifth, sixth splif ... and so on but those just didn't have any effect.
We rarely smoke the third one with the stuff I've grown this year. Usually the high from the first splif will last for an hour or even more and we stop at half the second one. And it's not about potency. Never was as far as I'm concerned. It's about the type of ride you're getting. I never got that from the indoor commercial herb.
Peace!
We rarely smoke the third one with the stuff I've grown this year. Usually the high from the first splif will last for an hour or even more and we stop at half the second one. And it's not about potency. Never was as far as I'm concerned. It's about the type of ride you're getting. I never got that from the indoor commercial herb.
Peace!
Anyone who thinks indoor is better has never smoked good outdoor, obviously.
Kaneh
Member
+1
It's like arguing that pure etanol is best alcohol drink there is because it's the most purest thing you can drink to get drunk!
...Most people still prefer good whisky, wine or beer.
The never ending debate. Both indoor and outdoor are excellent. Like mentioned numerous times. Indoor has less environmental factors and can produce a better appealing bud and we spend allot more time taking care of our indoor. This does not mean one is better then the other. If I have a jar of outdoor and a jar of indoor I can pick out the indoor evertime. I like them both. outdoor= $2500lb indoor=$3500lb is this because we are trying to recoup our expences in PGE and out time?
If the argument is - does indoor weed provide a better simulacrum of a hospital grade anesthetic for those who are in physical pain or just spiritually impoverished - then the answer is yes. But if you desire a medicine that is more subtle than a mono-dimensional soporific for intellectual somnambulists, then ffs go outside and get some sunshine and exercise.
Most top breeders and growers prefer properly grown outdoor weed, simply because the broader light spectrum from the sun allows the development of a more complete cannabinoid and terpene profile. Conversely indoor weed is like a rainbow with a couple of colors missing, and you might also note that proponents of indoor weed are usually a couple of eggs short of a dozen. But that can change with more life experience and exposure to more outdoor sativas.
If you really like the effect of hydro weed, then a good way to ameliorate that effect is to also drink a lot of alcohol and eat a lot of junk food.
Most top breeders and growers prefer properly grown outdoor weed, simply because the broader light spectrum from the sun allows the development of a more complete cannabinoid and terpene profile. Conversely indoor weed is like a rainbow with a couple of colors missing, and you might also note that proponents of indoor weed are usually a couple of eggs short of a dozen. But that can change with more life experience and exposure to more outdoor sativas.
If you really like the effect of hydro weed, then a good way to ameliorate that effect is to also drink a lot of alcohol and eat a lot of junk food.
OrganicMonkey
Member
I would think that a well operated green house would be the best, then you have the perks of everything. I would want a greenhouse that still gets UV or at least I could control that, as well as one that can go dark for a night cycle. A lot of people will be putting to shame many indoor buds, as outdoor season is coming.
QUOTE FROM Tom Hill
I think that indoor is generally and usually superior to outdoor for a number of reasons like lighting duration during flowering, age of plant, and lessor amounts to process.
I think that indoor is generally and usually superior to outdoor for a number of reasons like lighting duration during flowering, age of plant, and lessor amounts to process.
hopleaf
Member
do you give vocabulary lessons by any chance?
I'll let all you guys argue it out...
I'm gonna puff on some killer, Whether it be from outside under the mh in the sky or indoors under the hps on the ceiling....
I have smoked tons of killer nugs both indoors and outdoors for one to say one is better then the other I'm in disagreement. I have seen to much good nugs from inside and outdoors to say one is better then the other I cant I can only say killer is killer, Be it from outdoors or indoors if it is good its good, I have seen good and bad from both in and out....
Good strains good growing leaves ya with good nugs, Thats indoors or outdoors....
I'm gonna puff on some killer, Whether it be from outside under the mh in the sky or indoors under the hps on the ceiling....
I have smoked tons of killer nugs both indoors and outdoors for one to say one is better then the other I'm in disagreement. I have seen to much good nugs from inside and outdoors to say one is better then the other I cant I can only say killer is killer, Be it from outdoors or indoors if it is good its good, I have seen good and bad from both in and out....
Good strains good growing leaves ya with good nugs, Thats indoors or outdoors....
Have to agree.
I'm surprised anyone could even think otherwise, let alone go around making sweeping statements like "INDOOR is ALWAYS better", as if using capital letters would make it true. Never mind the neurotic, anally retentive nonsense about "dust", OMG, D-U-S-T, were all gonna die. I suppose we best turn over all production to big pharma, they're really good about eliminating dust. Sheee-eeet, way too many people are smoking cannabis these days if you ask me, LOL! Hang on, a dust particle just landed on one of my trichs, gotta get it off ASAP!
I've grown several strains both inside and out, and when it comes to subtleness of aromas and high they are a cut above when done outside, full stop. I used the same clones, too, just to be 100% sure. I grow indoors cause it's illegal, and cause some of my herb won't finish outdoor. No hi-tech lamp will ever match the sun.
Who cares if it looks a bit rougher?
- Are you going to blaze it or frame it?
Double Kindness
Member
I have had and grown some excellent utdoors stuff, and some not so great outdoors stuff. It all depends on the conditions, environment and experience of the grower IME. I have also grown indoors, great and not so great, again, with varying conditions I got varying different grades of marijuana. It all about what the conditions are for what you're trying to achieve.
I can kind of understand the OP point, to an extent. Sometimes when I smoke imported outdoor weed, I will have a mild allergic reaction. I am HIGHLY allergic to a shitload of plants and trees. I can't even go outside without feeling like shit in the summer. I believe this is because the weed picks up pollen from some random plant that I am allergic to. It might not even be from smoking it, it could be from handeling, smelling, the buds.
This doesn't happen when I take my Claritin, and it doesn't happen with all outdoor weed, usually just imported, and that's probably because I'm not used to whatever pollen is floating around in whatever state or country it's being produced in.
I also get an allergic reaction from bananas, lol, so I'm sure not everyone with allergies gets a reaction from outdoor weed.
This doesn't happen when I take my Claritin, and it doesn't happen with all outdoor weed, usually just imported, and that's probably because I'm not used to whatever pollen is floating around in whatever state or country it's being produced in.
I also get an allergic reaction from bananas, lol, so I'm sure not everyone with allergies gets a reaction from outdoor weed.
bicycle racer
Member
if you grow outdoor in your yard and give same high quality nutes medium etc.. same as for your indoor plants you will be very pleased with what you get just watch out for caterpillars. people always mistake my outdoor for indoor grown also the high of outdoor is often better you cannot duplicate the suns rays. i grow both indoor and out all the time i like indoor for control but people who say outdoor sucks are just ignorant put simply. my outdoor plants do get more dusty sometimes particularly when there are wild fires. both have pros and cons. the ultimate imo would be a indoor grow sealed from the outside with a sun roof and also hps on light movers co2 etc.... that would be the ultimate in quality i think.
