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URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v10/n074/a06.html
Source: Los Angeles Times (CA)
Author: John Hoeffel

JUDGE ORDERS DISPENSARY TO STOP SELLING MEDICAL POT

A Los Angeles County Superior Court judge Friday ordered an Eagle Rock dispensary to stop selling medical marijuana in a decision city prosecutors believe is the first to conclude that state law does not allow collectives to sell the drug.

Judge James C. Chalfant's preliminary injunction applies only to Hemp Factory V, a small outlet on Colorado Boulevard near the Glendale border, but would have a dramatic impact on how medical marijuana is distributed if a higher court upholds it. The decision came in the pretrial phase of the city's lawsuit against the dispensary.

Hundreds of collectives in Los Angeles and throughout California sell marijuana, as Hemp Factory V does, to anyone who shows up with a doctor's recommendation and signs a form to become a member. The state's courts have ruled on many medical marijuana issues, but have not directly addressed whether this widespread practice is legal.

Chalfant concluded that collectives can only grow marijuana and receive reimbursement for reasonable costs.

"A retail store that sells marijuana to its members simply does not satisfy the requirement of a collective to cultivate marijuana," he wrote in his 16-page decision.

Anthony P. Malecki, an attorney for Hemp Factory V and its operator, Gevork Berberyan, did not challenge Chalfant's conclusions in the courtroom. He said he would consult with Berberyan before deciding whether to appeal.

The city's attorney, Asha Greenberg, noted that the decision was only a trial court ruling, but said that it should be a warning to collectives.

"They should pay attention to it," she said. "A lot of cases have not been as clear-cut. This judge's analysis was right on. I think it's valuable for that reason."

In his decision, Chalfant endorsed the interpretation of state law and recent court decisions advocated by Los Angeles City Atty. Carmen Trutanich, who has become one of the most outspoken opponents of medical marijuana sales in the state.

Trutanich sued Hemp Factory V in October in his first attempt to use the courts to close a dispensary in Los Angeles, which has seen hundreds open while city officials failed to enforce a moratorium.

The state law adopted in 2003 to expand on California's 1996 medical marijuana initiative allows patients and their caregivers to form collectives to cultivate marijuana. It does not explicitly allow marijuana to be sold, although the practice is commonplace.

Prosecutors and law enforcement officials have increasingly argued that the law allows patients to work cooperatively to cultivate marijuana, but not to sell it over the counter.

Dispensary operators, including Berberyan, say they do not sell marijuana, but ask for voluntary donations to cover the costs of growing marijuana. Many, including Berberyan, also say they give the drug free to patients who cannot afford the price, which at Hemp Factory is typically around $60 for an eighth of an ounce.

Berberyan, a 33-year-old former truck driver, said in a deposition earlier this month that he and six other patients grow marijuana for about 500 to 600 members. He said he started to raise pot at the dispensary's location in December. In a declaration filed after his deposition, he said Hemp Factory V had just 171 members. His attorney declined to comment on the discrepancy.

Chalfant said those numbers demonstrate that the dispensary's principal function is retail sales, not cultivation. "Hemp Factory's evidence does not show that members are collectively raising marijuana as a crop," he wrote.

The debate over whether marijuana can be sold, rooted in the law's murky language, was one of the main reasons Los Angeles labored many months to draft an ordinance. City Council members struggled with whether to outlaw sales, as Trutanich and Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley insisted they should. In the end, the council skirted the issue, adopting language allowing cash contributions, but also requiring dispensaries to comply with state law.

"We did win this issue with City Council, it's unfortunate that this judge is going in a different direction," said Joe Elford, the chief counsel for Americans for Safe Access, a medical marijuana advocacy group. He said Chalfant and the prosecutors have misinterpreted key court decisions.

Chalfant's injunction underscores just how much remains unclear about the state's medical marijuana laws, even as voters in California are likely to decide in November whether to legalize marijuana sales for personal use.

The decision could embolden Trutanich and other prosecutors who have threatened to pursue dispensaries for selling marijuana. Officials with the city attorney's office declined to discuss whether they plan to bring additional cases, but the district attorney's office has continued to prosecute dispensary operators.

In addition to maintaining that sales are illegal, Trutanich also has pressed the novel argument that the state's food and drug safety law, known as the Sherman Law, applies to sales of medical marijuana.

He reached the conclusion after he had asked a federal lab to test samples of marijuana that undercover police officers bought at dispensaries, including Hemp Factory V, and found pesticides, including some banned ones.

Chalfant agreed with Trutanich that selling medical marijuana would trigger the Sherman Law's requirements, which include labeling drugs properly and ensuring that they do not contain poisonous substances. In his order, Chalfant also barred Hemp Factory V from selling marijuana that contains pesticides.
 
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In addition to maintaining that sales are illegal, Trutanich also has pressed the novel argument that the state's food and drug safety law, known as the Sherman Law, applies to sales of medical marijuana.

He reached the conclusion after he had asked a federal lab to test samples of marijuana that undercover police officers bought at dispensaries, including Hemp Factory V, and found pesticides, including some banned ones.

Chalfant agreed with Trutanich that selling medical marijuana would trigger the Sherman Law's requirements, which include labeling drugs properly and ensuring that they do not contain poisonous substances. In his order, Chalfant also barred Hemp Factory V from selling marijuana that contains pesticides.

I agree 100%
 
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Blue Dot

I'll bet you do .

You mean you don't care if the bud you inhale has pesticide residue or do you mean that you don't care if you sell pesticide laden bud?

Nice double standard. Way to look out for fellow mankind.
 

GanjaPharma

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sick people use cannabis in place of pharmaceutical drugs.
they pay a premium for their meds.
it is revolting to know that anyone can call themselves a medical provider, even if the medicine they grow is infused with/covered in POISION
if you dont want judges to do the regulating fine...but there must be standards when patients are involved.
 
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Blue Dot

if you dont want judges to do the regulating fine...but there must be standards when patients are involved.

obviously the providers (dispensaries) aren't man enough to police themselves so it's no wonder the actual police need to step in.
 
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Zoolander

That's why I grow my own . I'll bet the main shit they found was floramite . I do think your right about the poison herb though , that is just wrong . They need real vendors that give a shit and have pride in their product . This is what happens when clubs low ball a real grower of meds and will take the crap for less $ from a hack
 

kmk420kali

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BD...those Standards will mean 80% of the bud cannot be sold--
I agree that it would be better with no pesticides...but please tell me any agriculture...fruits, vegetables...that are 100% pesticide free...of course I mean without having to pay an inflated price for that label--
Business is business...if you have several hundred thousand dollars riding on a crop...and you get bugs-- You will spray--
 
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Zoolander

Let's not forget how much poison is in legal meds ! Do they close down CVS for selling that crap ?
 
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Blue Dot

Business is business...if you have several hundred thousand dollars riding on a crop...and you get bugs-- You will spray--

I'm not gonna kid you or me, cause i know what you mean but in the back of my mind I believe that mites, etc are from lack of planning, lack of knowledge, lack of experience and that it's possible to grow without pests but it's exceedingly difficult yet is most possible if one has the knowledge.

Also, there are many controls less toxic then say "floramite" or "Kontos" etc. yet 90% of the growers are to lazy to really research the alternatives.

Heck, at least start with biological predator mites and environmental parameters and go from there.
 
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Blue Dot

Let's not forget how much poison is in legal meds ! Do they close down CVS for selling that crap ?

There is no poison in legal meds. It's heavily regulated.

Big Pharma produces pure chems. Yes, the actual active ingredient can be considered a poison but it is not an adulterant.

The efficacy of Big Pharma is definately in question but the purity is not in question.
 

kmk420kali

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I'm not gonna kid you or me, cause i know what you mean but in the back of my mind I believe that mites, etc are from lack of planning, lack of knowledge, lack of experience and that it's possible to grow without pests but it's exceedingly difficult yet is most possible if one has the knowledge.

Also, there are many controls less toxic then say "floramite" or "Kontos" etc. yet 90% of the growers are to lazy to really research the alternatives.

Heck, at least start with biological predator mites and environmental parameters and go from there.

Here is a quote from the following thread...I just posted--
The question this brings to mind...is how do these pesticides act when burnt??
Eating it doesn't mean anything-- We (Smokers) do not eat it...so I wonder what the reactivity of these chemicals is once exposed to flame??
I know that some chemicals...are completely neutralized when exposed to excessive heat--
Just wonderin'--:smokeit:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=66865&page=20

Predator mites?? On hundreds of plants outdoors?? Really??
 

KUSHEATER1

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keep a clean enviroment and you won't have pests or atleast very few that can be taken care of without poisons
 
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The question this brings to mind...is how do these pesticides act when burnt??
Eating it doesn't mean anything-- We (Smokers) do not eat it...so I wonder what the reactivity of these chemicals is once exposed to flame??
I know that some chemicals...are completely neutralized when exposed to excessive heat--
Just wonderin'--

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=66865&page=20

Do not ignore the flip side.

Many chems are ACTIVATED or or least become more toxic when heated and inhaled.

Ironic that THC MUST be heated (carboxylyzed) in order to become active, no?

Nitrogen, I think, and other naturally occuring chems give off toxic gas when heated but are neutral when eaten.

I'm not gonna pretend to know all the reactions but it's silly to think that heat neutralizes every chem.
 

kmk420kali

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Do not ignore the flip side.

Many chems are ACTIVATED or or least become more toxic when heated and inhaled.

Ironic that THC MUST be heated (carboxylyzed) in order to become active, no?

Nitrogen, I think, and other naturally occuring chems give off toxic gas when heated but are neutral when eaten.

I'm not gonna pretend to know all the reactions but it's silly to think that heat neutralizes every chem.

Sorry bro...I did not claim that it neutralized every chem...I am just curious what it does do to the commonly used Pesticides--
 
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Sorry bro...I did not claim that it neutralized every chem...I am just curious what it does do to the commonly used Pesticides--

Some are neutralized, some are activated and some have no effect. That's usually the way complex chemistry works.

BTW, Some plants actually use fire in order to activate their seeds to become viable after a fire season. Life and chemistry are VERY complex. More complex then some idiot chemist at Bayer Advanced can figure out.
 

kmk420kali

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Some are neutralized, some are activated and some have no effect. That's usually the way complex chemistry works.

BTW, Some plants actually use fire in order to activate their seeds to become viable after a fire season. Life and chemistry are VERY complex. More complex then some idiot chemist at Bayer Advanced can figure out.

If that had been a breakdown by product...I would be satisfied--
 

Tony Aroma

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I agree 100%

I too agree 100%. (Does that make a total of 200%?)

As a consumer, you have a right to know what is in any food or medicine you buy. In fact, it's required by law. That's why all packaged food lists ingredients on the label. As do all medicines. Why should MMJ be any different?

And while it is true that pesticides are used in growing commercial produce, we as consumers are aware of that. We are told to wash our fruits and vegetables to remove any remaining residue before eating them. Since you can't wash your buds, it is especially important to know what's on or in them.

Not saying that pesticides should not be used in growing MMJ. I don't know how practical that might or might not be on a large scale, or which ones are safest. But if you are taking anything as a medicine or food, you need to know what's in it, so you can decide for yourself whether or not you want to ingest it. If we want MMJ to be taken seriously as medicine, there needs to be some level of quality control and assured purity.
 

bergerbuddy

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You mean you don't care if the bud you inhale has pesticide residue or do you mean that you don't care if you sell pesticide laden bud?

Nice double standard. Way to look out for fellow mankind.

I think he means that the State coming in and enforcing some kind of "Sherman" law sounds like undue and indeed beauracratic BULLSHIT..

That as the fuck himself says.... HE WANTS TO SHUT DOWN DISP.... NOT ENSURE THE WEED IS GOOD.... SHUT EM DOWN... WITH ANY REASON HE CAN FIND..

I myself think that pesticides are HORRIBLE.. that being said I think Genetically Modified Organisims ARE WORSE THAN HORRIBLE... and our lovely Gov. has said its TOTALLY ILLEGAL TO IDENTIFY GMO FOOD ON ITS LABLE...
Now how come if all the Gov wants to do is watch out for us????

FUCK THE GOV.... FUCK THIER REGULATIONS... FUCK THEIR INTERFERENCE
 

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