All my plants dying quickly

[motaloca]

Anyone got an idea what this is?
Soil from local nursery mixed with compost
Can't be nute burn as they have only been give r.o water.
I have basil plants in the same soil and they grow great.
It was very humid the last couple of days.
The run off was measured and is around 6.5
the bottom leafs first turned very soft and dark green.
then after 3 days they look like this( see photo)
They are multiple strains, some local Cambodian and some are Mandala safari mix.
They all are affected.

 

[danimal7]

that soil looks sketchy and are they draining well enough ?

 

[HippyCrackTx]

i would say that the soil and compost mix has such a high nutrient content that it is literally torching your plants even if your just feeding water.....that my friend is textbook nute burn
imho of course....i see there is no perlite as well to break up that soil

 

[GreenDreamz]

i definatley would transplant ASAP, flush with water only and make sure there is enough drainage coming out of those pots.

 

[medichron]

You are supposed to add cal mag if your using RO water, this could be your problem...but i'm not really sure.

Peace and good luck,
Medichron

 

[motaloca]

Thanks for the replys.
Can't buy perlite where I am.
I took some cuttings and put some in ro water and some in coco and it continues to die.
I have also used this soil before with no problems, and the basil plants have no signs of this.
This is the only soil i can buy here the other options is to just dig some soil myself and hope for the best.
It doesn't drain very well but i wait till its dry before I water again.

 

[motaloca]

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[severian]

How long has it been since you transplanted to this soil?

"the bottom leafs first turned very soft and dark green.
then after 3 days they look like this( see photo) "

Did they turn dark green just after transplant?

Btw, its not cal mag deficiency.

 

[HippyCrackTx]

what about rocks/pebbles or sand? do you have any of those at your reach? have you pulled a harvest outta that medium before?i dont know bro.....but i would opt for coco over that any day,but i understand that you may be somewhere that no modern gardening luxuries are available.....can u mail order stuff?

 

[motaloca]

Yes i have pulled quite a nice harvest out this medium.( soil from local nursery, mixed with compost, horse manure, dried seaweed, burned rice husk, soybean meal) I have some pics in my gallery.
No the bottom leafs just turned dark green (almost black)before transplant.
They soil they were started in had no compost or other additives in.
I have coco in it's natural form and have to cut it myself. I'm just waiting for the cal mag to arrive.
I will travel to Thailand to buy coco , fert and so on. I just have it with this soil.
I also will try to mix with sand( can u use normal builders sand?)
http://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=7521
Thanks for all your help

 

[ArcticBlast]

looks exactly like what's been going on in my veg room... i got that shitty miracle gro organic that feeds for 3 months... i soaked it for what i thought was a reasonable time, then i added perlite and regular topsoil.... my plants fucking hate it

ArcticBlast

 

[severian]

Yes i have pulled quite a nice harvest out this medium.( soil from local nursery, mixed with compost, horse manure, dried seaweed, burned rice husk, soybean meal) I have some pics in my gallery.

My guess is the horse manure is too concentrated. But its just a guess.

Might want to pull them out and soak in water - maybe they will recover. GL

 

[Zeinth]

Anyone got an idea what this is?
Soil from local nursery mixed with compost
Can't be nute burn as they have only been give r.o water.
I have basil plants in the same soil and they grow great.
It was very humid the last couple of days.
The run off was measured and is around 6.5
the bottom leafs first turned very soft and dark green.
then after 3 days they look like this( see photo)
They are multiple strains, some local Cambodian and some are Mandala safari mix.
They all are affected.

does this pic look similar?

phosphorus lock out..its in the sick plant guide..

 

[fireman]

Its soil so it took a minute to get fucked up so its takes a couple of days to fix. Also your plants arent going to fix there leaves from the burn. That is perm necrotic damage. Def was textbook way too hot. Also Basil can handle the high nutrient content because it likes rich soils.

Tplant as much as you can into a basic soil without manure or anything

Fireman

 

[grapeman]

horse manure is a very hot material. IMO, it is cooking your plants. had a 20 ranch once that previously had a 40' x 40' horse corral. in 20 years, I could never get vines to grow in that little area. IT IS HOT. Especially if it is not composted properly.

Looks as if the nuts are burning your plants.

 

[Bazarocka]

Yuck

Yuck

i would say that the soil and compost mix has such a high nutrient content that it is literally torching your plants even if your just feeding water.....that my friend is textbook nute burn
imho of course....i see there is no perlite as well to break up that soil

Ditto---I have to agree--Nute burn, transplant and get rid of that dead leaf matter asap.. Good Luck

PS: You cant get Pearl;ite where your at```~~~``` I assume you must be on the moon. lol,,,,,just kidden,,,,,.

 

[danimal7]

alot of these "nursery mixes" are based with ground up pallets , pallets that have been painted ,pallets that have had god knows what stacked on them for years

also the "cow manure" they put in is totally bogus ...
Black Cow brand is the only cow shit i've seen worth a damn

cow manure is more for outside grows IMO

 

[motaloca]

Thanks for the help, but i think it isn't a nute burn as i planted some seeds for a test in the same soil 3 days ago and they came up. the problem started also BEFORE the transplant in soil with compost and manure. They were started in plain top soil from my garden. If it would be that the soil is so hot the seeds would never sprout or not? I'm waiting for the cal mag and then go coco.
All stems started to root and the tops that i have taken as clones do the same in water and coco.
I had clones doing the same before when i had them under a humidity dome. They also started to turn dark green and mushy.
and then necrosis set in.
I clone now without dome and it works much better.
btw I am in Cambodia and it was very humid the last couple of days.

 

[Ed Borg]

Greetings Motaloca, I hope all is improving bro! To me, it looks like the medium(perhaps the horse manure) is frying them up. I had a similar problem and the only thing that helped was staying with pure water until the burn went away before applying any food again. Perhaps transplanting only 1 or 2 of them once they dry out only to a pot of cocos to see what develops next. Experiment ASAP with only 1-2 so that you can see and compare the results. Keep records as this will be the only way to lock down the results for future success. Growing in Cambodia is indeed very difficult, so keep your head up and stay positive. There is a lot of humidity there so perhaps go EXTRA light with the waterings until they really need it, and once doing so, do it in a hydroponic style of perhaps a few ml every 2 hours or as required until they start to thrive again. Peace 2U Always.

 

[jim_browsky]

Thanks for the help, but i think it isn't a nute burn as i planted some seeds for a test in the same soil 3 days ago and they came up.

It certainly looks like they're fried. If you want to rule out pH
lockout or nute burn, take the readings from your soil. Add one part
soil and two parts distilled/RO water and mix very well in a jar.
Strain mixture after it has sat for thirty minutes, strain it into a
clean jar and take the EC and pH. It is true that you don't know
what you are getting from the nursery when you buy "potting" soil
and compost.
Promix BX, for example, has a pH of 6.2 and an EC of .3 when new.