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bigbrokush

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It's a drug that's easily abused, it poses health risks, and the potential benefits of taxing and regulating it are overstated.

By Skip Miller

January 27, 2010 | 4:47 p.m.


The City Council's vote Tuesday to shut hundreds of so-called medical marijuana dispensaries across Los Angeles was a welcome move, but the larger battle over pot has just begun.

Across the country, lawmakers and residents of cash-strapped states are edging ever closer to legalizing -- and taxing -- marijuana. In California, the first state in the nation to pass a medical marijuana law, backers of an initiative to legalize the drug expect to gather enough signatures to qualify the measure for the November ballot. And a Field Poll last year showed more than half of California voters would support such a move.

Two beliefs drive this push to make pot legal: that new tax revenue will stave off deeper budget cuts and that marijuana is a relatively benign drug. Neither is true.

Legalization almost certainly would bring with it additional substance abuse in the state, and the long-term public costs associated with that would vastly exceed the relatively modest amount of new revenue legal weed might bring in. Baby boomers who hazily recall their own experimentation with marijuana often are stunned to learn that the amount of tetrahydrocannabinol -- or THC, marijuana's primary psychoactive substance -- in domestic sinsemilla has quadrupled since the late 1970s.

According to Dr. Sheila Kar, clinical chief of cardiology at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center (and a member of the D.A.R.E America board of directors) marijuana has serious short- and long-term health consequences. It has been shown to cause an immediate rise in the heartbeat by 20 to 30 beats per minute along with an increase in blood pressure, thus increasing the workload of the heart. Marijuana is an irritant to the lungs and contains proportionally more carcinogens than tobacco smoke. It is associated with increased incidence of cancer of the head and neck area and lungs. It works on the brain, causing short- and long-term memory loss and impairing judgment, and it affects the sensations of taste and smell. One of its more pernicious effects is that it reduces inhibitions and can lead a person under its influence to try even more harmful substances.

In other words, there's a reason the federal government classifies marijuana as a Schedule 1 drug with a high potential for abuse. It is the most commonly abused illicit drug in the United States, and more teens are in treatment for marijuana addiction than for alcohol or any other drug. Do we really want this habit-forming drug easier to get, particularly as the nation has made significant strides in reducing illegal drug use?

Between 1979 and 2007, the rate of illegal drug use fell by half. Programs such as D.A.R.E. taught schoolchildren the facts about drugs, alcohol and tobacco and bolstered their critical thinking and decision-making skills so they can do more than just say no. In conjunction with Penn State University, the new D.A.R.E. middle school curriculum has been vetted and proved effective at reducing drug use. In recent years, D.A.R.E. has added units on prescription and over-the-counter medications, abuse of which is growing among teens -- another reminder, along with abuse of alcohol, that just because something is legal, it doesn't necessarily reduce the risk of abuse.

And that abuse costs all of us. The National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse, or CASA, at Columbia University estimated last year that substance abuse and addiction cost federal, state and local governments $467.7 billion in 2005. Break out federal spending on substance abuse and addiction as its own budget item and it would rank near the top with defense, Social Security and Medicare.

This is where supporters of legalization like to say that decriminalizing marijuana would free up law enforcement resources and provide a tax base to fund prevention and treatment. In fact, CASA estimates just 13% of the combined state and federal substance-abuse costs are attributable to the justice system -- a figure that also includes family court, driving under the influence and hard-core drug dealing. The bulk of the costs stem from direct healthcare expenses. Imagine what a dent we could make in reducing healthcare costs if we prevented more drug and alcohol abuse.

The California Board of Equalization estimates that taxing marijuana sales the way alcohol and cigarettes are taxed could add $1.34 billion a year to state coffers. But for every dollar in state and federal alcohol and tobacco taxes that is collected, CASA estimates government spends $8.95 to clean up the often tragic consequences of addiction, driving under the influence, domestic abuse or illness. That's right: A dollar coming in; $8.95 going out. Suddenly, that $1.34 billion doesn't seem like much, particularly when one considers that it comes with significantly wider access to a habit-forming drug that has been shown time and again to be a gateway to even more dangerous drugs.

Despite the gains of the past two decades, substance abuse remains a serious drag on the health, productivity and safety of our nation. There is a connection between marijuana and fiscal solvency, but supporters of legalization have it backward. Reducing, not expanding, marijuana use can save billions. It's time to clear the smoke.

Skip Miller is chairman of D.A.R.E. America, the top drug-abuse prevention and education program in the United States, and a partner in the Los Angeles law firm Miller Barondess.

Copyright © 2010, The Los Angeles Times
 

jomby

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There are too many made-up numbers and facts in there to count. I know that DARE was more of a gateway drug than weed ever was... shit, my only gateway drug in life has been a LACK OF weed. If I had a ready legal supply of it, I definitely would never find myself abusing prescriptions or whatever other bullshit I can find.
 

hippie_lettuce

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You know what, reading this article raises my blood pressure. Smoking cannabis does not. Geez, take it from THE D.A.R.E. chairman...Dr. Sheila is definitely backed by D.A.R.E. and big pharma.
 
B

Bazarocka

WTF is Skip Miller, and WTF does he know. Its LATE, or EARLY which ever. But ALL I can say. IS he's fulla shit. And you can tell him "I SAID SO"...

Oh 3.8 his ass.
 

accessndx

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I don't trust any mother-f*cker named Skip.....

With the exception of the cat that handles the web-business around this joint. He gets a big K+ :)

That D.A.R.E. douche can suck both nuts.
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
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The California Board of Equalization estimates that taxing marijuana sales the way alcohol and cigarettes are taxed could add $1.34 billion a year to state coffers. But for every dollar in state and federal alcohol and tobacco taxes that is collected, CASA estimates government spends $8.95 to clean up the often tragic consequences of addiction, driving under the influence, domestic abuse or illness. That's right: A dollar coming in; $8.95 going out. Suddenly, that $1.34 billion doesn't seem like much, particularly when one considers that it comes with significantly wider access to a habit-forming drug that has been shown time and again to be a gateway to even more dangerous drugs.



So let me get this straight.... because ALCOHOL and TOBACCO are so dangerous and problem causing we shouldnt legalize marijuana????

That just goes to show how fucking biased and full of shit this asshole author is.......

People should be arrested for publishing this sort of non sensical propaganda filled dog shit....
 

Hammerhead

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What a joke. Someone taking out the ars. I would expect this kind of propaganda to increase as we get closer to November
 

kmk420kali

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Rosy Cheeks

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According to Dr. Sheila Kar, clinical chief of cardiology at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center (and a member of the D.A.R.E America board of directors) marijuana has serious short- and long-term health consequences. It has been shown to cause an immediate rise in the heartbeat by 20 to 30 beats per minute along with an increase in blood pressure, thus increasing the workload of the heart. Marijuana is an irritant to the lungs and contains proportionally more carcinogens than tobacco smoke. It is associated with increased incidence of cancer of the head and neck area and lungs. It works on the brain, causing short- and long-term memory loss and impairing judgment, and it affects the sensations of taste and smell. One of its more pernicious effects is that it reduces inhibitions and can lead a person under its influence to try even more harmful substances.

The only thing that ups my heartbeat is reading drivel like this,

What other things causes increased cardiac rythm?

http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/drug_guide/Tobacco

Nicotine causes a short-term increase in blood pressure, heart rate, and the flow of blood from the heart.

Is it forbidden? Nope.

As to alcohol;

http://www.womensheart.org/content/HeartDisease/alcohol_and_heart_disease.asp

drinking more than three drinks a day has a direct toxic effect on the heart. Heavy drinking, particularly over time, can damage the heart and lead to high blood pressure, alcoholic cardiomyopathy, (enlarged and weakened heart), congestive heart failure, and stroke.

Sounds way more dangerous to me than just increasing the heartbeat by 20 beats per minute. Is it forbidden? Nope.

The rest of this utterly pointless statement simply refers to a way of consuming Cannabis, in effect by smoking it.
If you chopped up some carrots and tried to smoke it instead of eating it, it would also be bad for your lungs. Therefore - according to this logic - carrots should be banned.
Or, we could forbid hot chocolate simply because you might burn your lips by drinking it too hot.

Same (lack) of logic.
 

ThizZ

Member
It's a drug that's easily abused, it poses health risks, and the potential benefits of taxing and regulating it are overstated.

By Skip Miller

January 27, 2010 | 4:47 p.m.


The City Council's vote Tuesday to shut hundreds of so-called medical marijuana dispensaries across Los Angeles was a welcome move, but the larger battle over pot has just begun.

Across the country, lawmakers and residents of cash-strapped states are edging ever closer to legalizing -- and taxing -- marijuana. In California, the first state in the nation to pass a medical marijuana law, backers of an initiative to legalize the drug expect to gather enough signatures to qualify the measure for the November ballot. And a Field Poll last year showed more than half of California voters would support such a move.

Two beliefs drive this push to make pot legal: that new tax revenue will stave off deeper budget cuts and that marijuana is a relatively benign drug. Neither is true.

Legalization almost certainly would bring with it additional substance abuse in the state, and the long-term public costs associated with that would vastly exceed the relatively modest amount of new revenue legal weed might bring in. Baby boomers who hazily recall their own experimentation with marijuana often are stunned to learn that the amount of tetrahydrocannabinol -- or THC, marijuana's primary psychoactive substance -- in domestic sinsemilla has quadrupled since the late 1970s.

According to Dr. Sheila Kar, clinical chief of cardiology at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center (and a member of the D.A.R.E America board of directors) marijuana has serious short- and long-term health consequences. It has been shown to cause an immediate rise in the heartbeat by 20 to 30 beats per minute along with an increase in blood pressure, thus increasing the workload of the heart. Marijuana is an irritant to the lungs and contains proportionally more carcinogens than tobacco smoke. It is associated with increased incidence of cancer of the head and neck area and lungs. It works on the brain, causing short- and long-term memory loss and impairing judgment, and it affects the sensations of taste and smell. One of its more pernicious effects is that it reduces inhibitions and can lead a person under its influence to try even more harmful substances.

In other words, there's a reason the federal government classifies marijuana as a Schedule 1 drug with a high potential for abuse. It is the most commonly abused illicit drug in the United States, and more teens are in treatment for marijuana addiction than for alcohol or any other drug. Do we really want this habit-forming drug easier to get, particularly as the nation has made significant strides in reducing illegal drug use?

Between 1979 and 2007, the rate of illegal drug use fell by half. Programs such as D.A.R.E. taught schoolchildren the facts about drugs, alcohol and tobacco and bolstered their critical thinking and decision-making skills so they can do more than just say no. In conjunction with Penn State University, the new D.A.R.E. middle school curriculum has been vetted and proved effective at reducing drug use. In recent years, D.A.R.E. has added units on prescription and over-the-counter medications, abuse of which is growing among teens -- another reminder, along with abuse of alcohol, that just because something is legal, it doesn't necessarily reduce the risk of abuse.

And that abuse costs all of us. The National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse, or CASA, at Columbia University estimated last year that substance abuse and addiction cost federal, state and local governments $467.7 billion in 2005. Break out federal spending on substance abuse and addiction as its own budget item and it would rank near the top with defense, Social Security and Medicare.

This is where supporters of legalization like to say that decriminalizing marijuana would free up law enforcement resources and provide a tax base to fund prevention and treatment. In fact, CASA estimates just 13% of the combined state and federal substance-abuse costs are attributable to the justice system -- a figure that also includes family court, driving under the influence and hard-core drug dealing. The bulk of the costs stem from direct healthcare expenses. Imagine what a dent we could make in reducing healthcare costs if we prevented more drug and alcohol abuse.

The California Board of Equalization estimates that taxing marijuana sales the way alcohol and cigarettes are taxed could add $1.34 billion a year to state coffers. But for every dollar in state and federal alcohol and tobacco taxes that is collected, CASA estimates government spends $8.95 to clean up the often tragic consequences of addiction, driving under the influence, domestic abuse or illness. That's right: A dollar coming in; $8.95 going out. Suddenly, that $1.34 billion doesn't seem like much, particularly when one considers that it comes with significantly wider access to a habit-forming drug that has been shown time and again to be a gateway to even more dangerous drugs.

Despite the gains of the past two decades, substance abuse remains a serious drag on the health, productivity and safety of our nation. There is a connection between marijuana and fiscal solvency, but supporters of legalization have it backward. Reducing, not expanding, marijuana use can save billions. It's time to clear the smoke.

Skip Miller is chairman of D.A.R.E. America, the top drug-abuse prevention and education program in the United States, and a partner in the Los Angeles law firm Miller Barondess.

Copyright © 2010, The Los Angeles Times
lol being a med patient I am offended

but since I am a little educated I know that bs like this in the end just kinda unravels itself and shows how unstable an argument can be if not researched correctly and as for DARE i don't really care about it but believe it or not I had no idea what a "drug" was until they went and educated me about it when I was a lil kid lol i'm not too old but I do think that the knowledge of drugs was brought into my life a little to early but hey I guess it was better for me in the long run
 
Z

Zoolander

Let me say that cannabis is not what landed me in rehab , it was oxy and hydrodone that the doctors pushed on me for my back and severe migraines .
 

mcmawg

Member
What a tool!
Just checked the Times: 100 comments; only 5 are in Skip's corner. The rest are laughing/yelling at Skip and the Times.
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
Veteran
The comments sections in stories like this have changed considerably in character in just the last year. Not only do they shout down propaganda pieces like this, they do so with facts. There used to be anti-freedom writers who could actually construct a sentence and perhaps even make you think about their point of view with their arguments. It really seems from reading the comments sections nowadays that the only people who support continued prohibition are blistering idiots.

Im pretty sure cali wasn't the first state to pass a MMJ law..

It depends on what you mean by MMJ law. If you mean a meaningful law which got medicine to patients then CA was indeed the first. If by MMJ law you mean symbolic which hasn't resulted in a speck of relief for the sick and suffering then VA gets the honor, all the way back in 1978. There was actually a flurry of worthless state laws passed in that era, right after Rob Randall won his lawsuit and started getting his tins of UMiss schwag. But like VA's law they require doctors to write prescriptions, and pharmacies to distribute the medicine, both of which are precluded by Federal law, and which requirements make the laws worthless unless the Feds change theirs.
 

MoeBudz^420

Active member
Veteran
They are mistaken, on purpose of course. This doctor has obviously been well paid for by DARE. Cannabis is a vasodilator, which means it dilates the vessels, thus reducing blood pressure, and it is this dilation that causes the increased heart rate that is common to all of us. A common side effect of vasodilation is the ever so common red eyes.

An increased heart rate is not necessarily a bad thing, we can elevate our heartbeat by much more than 20 BPM by doing this: EXERCISE! And for the cancer thing and the other drivel, she can put her DARE money where her mouth is and S.M.T.P. (Show Me The Proof)
or sit down and shut up!!

My question is, just how da heck can they keep saying that cannabis is dangerous when all that is required to see the truth regarding this issue is to type "cannabis" and "LD50" into google...and...

BAM! there's the truth, staring you right in the face...


Stupid DARE -bought doctor, you need a bonghit! :rasta:



Peace
 

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