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GreenThumbs

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So maybe I'm just being paranoid. My plants look very healthy overall, however, I found some small symptoms I want to make sure aren't the beginning of bigger problems. If they are I want to get them taken care of asap.

THERE IS A PROBLEM FOR SURE NOW PLEASE HELP! SEE NEWEST POST FOR MOST RECENT PICS!


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How long has this problem been going on? recently found
What STRAIN are you growing?"god bud" , "dynamite", "seattle's best" (the names i was told)
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) Clone
What is the age of your plants? 26 days
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now?
How Tall are the plants? 26 days
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? veg
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) 6 plants, 2 1000w lights
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) 10 gal Smart pots / 1 per pot
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) Sunshine mix #4 with big n chunky perlite approx 50/50 mix)
What Nutrient's are you using? GH 3 part ( micro,grow,bloom) + Botanicare cal/mag/iron supplement, and Hygrozyme
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* GH brand - micro 6tsp/5gal, grow 6tsp/5gal, bloom 3tsp/5gal, Botanicare brand - Cal/mag/iron supplement 6tsp/5gal, Hygrozyme-5tsp/5gal. Each plant then gets 3qts of this mix ( almost 1 gal) . Last feeding I also gave them each 2 quarts of H2O2 @3% concentration.
How often are you feeding? every watering
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients? N/A
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect) micro>grow>bloom>cal/mag>hygrozyme
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used? 1030
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? N/A
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? Analog soil meter reads approx 6.7-6.9
How often are you watering? Every 2 or 3 days as needed.
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? Last night. Every watering.
What size bulb are you using? 2 x 1000w MH
What is the distance to the canopy? approx 8-10 inches
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) 35-45 %
What is the canopy temperature? N/A
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) low 68, high 84, avg day 79-81 , avg night 69-72
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) Alot out, not enough in. under construction still. not sure exactly.
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? Good exhaust, not so good intake, 2 tall oscillating fans between canopy and light. 1 very small oscillating floor height.
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? no , they oscillate canopy height.
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? No
Is your water HARD or SOFT? water is 30 ppm
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap?Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? Tap
Are you using water from a water softener? No
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? no, yes,yes
Have any pest chemicals been used? No If so what and when?N/A
Are plant's infected with pest's? Not that Im aware of.
 
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GreenThumbs

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So thats the majority of the issues, the other 3 subjects share similar to no symptoms so we will leave subjects 4-6 out for now. Thanks to those that already jumped into the thread, and thanks in advance to others that may choose to help in the future. Any and all feedback is appreciated.
 
bergerbuddy

bergerbuddy

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Ok, I'm going to give ya some advice... but its been about 8 or 9 years since i've was growing in sunshine mix or promix and since I was using GH..

I suggest get a calibrated PH meter and checking the PH or ur fert/water mix and make sure you run it between 6.1- 6.6... move the ph around within this spectrum staying mainly at 6.4 or so..

GIVE PLAIN WATER AT LEAST EVERY FOURTH WATERING.... When u do this... is a good time to use the hgrozyme and PH low to 6.1 Thats assuming you water every day.. which I would recommend... just adjust your water amount but the areation that comes with daily watering is NEEDED

Don't use the zyme with every watering... try it with just the plain waterings...

I would also only use the cal/mag every other watering..... and try lowering the dose... you prby won't need it at all after about week 4 of bud..

That being said... you might want to get ur plants to stretch just a bit and u can do this by tweaking the amount of green stuff (can't remember the name GH stuff) you can do the same during bud.... by bumping up the red juice around the begining of the third week... depending of course on what the plants are looking like.

I have become a firm believer in less is best.... more causes problems buildups and adverse reactions with each other (I'm talking about ferts and additives here...LESS IS BEST.. trust me..

I hope this helps..
 
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GreenThumbs

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bergerbuddy said:
Ok, I'm going to give ya some advice... but its been about 8 or 9 years since i've was growing in sunshine mix or promix and since I was using GH..

I suggest get a calibrated PH meter and checking the PH or ur fert/water mix and make sure you run it between 6.1- 6.6... move the ph around within this spectrum staying mainly at 6.4 or so..

GIVE PLAIN WATER AT LEAST EVERY FOURTH WATERING.... When u do this... is a good time to use the hgrozyme and PH low to 6.1 Thats assuming you water every day.. which I would recommend... just adjust your water amount but the areation that comes with daily watering is NEEDED

Don't use the zyme with every watering... try it with just the plain waterings...

I would also only use the cal/mag every other watering..... and try lowering the dose... you prby won't need it at all after about week 4 of bud..

That being said... you might want to get ur plants to stretch just a bit and u can do this by tweaking the amount of green stuff (can't remember the name GH stuff) you can do the same during bud.... by bumping up the red juice around the begining of the third week... depending of course on what the plants are looking like.

I have become a firm believer in less is best.... more causes problems buildups and adverse reactions with each other (I'm talking about ferts and additives here...LESS IS BEST.. trust me..

I hope this helps..
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Helps alot Berger! Ive been using the zyme about once a week, leave it out the rest. I will bring the cal/mag down ( probably too much and not too little you're right.) The h2o/zyme flush idea i like it, will probably add some H2o2 @ 3%-5% (have 1 gal @ 35% concentrate) to kill bacteria and add some oxygen to my soil. Thanks for all your info and ideas.
 
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OK subject #1 seems to have gotten worse over night. it is the only one showing the discoloration issue ( top of the plant , old and new growth) and seems it has gotten worse. now when you look at it its apparent something is up, yesterday it was harder to tell without looking closely.
 
bergerbuddy

bergerbuddy

Canna Coco grower
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Give em some good PH water 6.3 then give em a couple waterings of just GH nothin else.... Ph it one time at 6.6 and one time at 6.2...

I personally never needed to add cal mag more than maybe three times during the whole cycle.. depending on how long they veged...

I never liked hygro zyme or hydro zyme.... I use Cannazyme and its SWEET... use it once every 6 days... otherwise... just use my nutes...

The prob with AN and regimes that add all sorts of various supplementals is.... its hard to figure out what is causing the problem when there is one.... Its difficult to know if all products are compatible with each... etc...

Just break it down to the basics for a week or two.... you will see things pop right out of it...


When you water... especially with the plain water.... WATER THE PISS OUT OF IT SO IT CLEANSES THE SOIL TO.... Then when you water with ferts do the same thing...

Sunshine and promix are nice and areable... so you shouldn't have problems with fungus around the stems or root rot... if you do this... the plants look nice and big and capable of using quite a bit of water per day...

Peace
 
MynameStitch

MynameStitch

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Green thumbs, that is light bleaching, raise the light up; the bleach marks.. the purpling of your leaves is due to colder night time temps, this will cause strains that have color changing ability to show there color genes...

Another thing too I fully agree with berger buddy; his advice is solid and is what I would have said......
 
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