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just str8 hawian punch? i gotta try this in at least one of them! or do you cut it with water?
Interesting, back in the day a few people used to swear by feeding coca cola in the last couple of weeks. I;ve seen other people speculating about the benefits of feeding some of these 'liquid crack' energy drinks to plants.
What's 'Hawaiian Punch' BTW, a soft drink?
What's 'Hawaiian Punch' BTW, a soft drink?
I add 1 2 litter bottle of hawaiian punch per 5 gallons...
Coca cola is carbonated, has caffeine, & has a bunch of sodium in it. mexico uses it to brick weed when they press it. HI-C, or kool aid mixed with sugar can work wonders! In most of my sterile rockwool setups I use carboload or of course mollasses. I imagine coca cola suryup mixed with water would work pretty damn good too, except of course caffeine...
Coca cola is carbonated, has caffeine, & has a bunch of sodium in it. mexico uses it to brick weed when they press it. HI-C, or kool aid mixed with sugar can work wonders! In most of my sterile rockwool setups I use carboload or of course mollasses. I imagine coca cola suryup mixed with water would work pretty damn good too, except of course caffeine...
hhmm...i wonder...caffine..can ya smoke it? will it zip ya? would it be a cool buzz? thingz ta ponder!
Wooden Eye
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Yes & Yes. so sure it does make brick sticky.
I once poured in a couple bottles of Low-Mineral Count Bottled Spring water. CARBONATED. That was the key. Someone told me it would flush out the salts very well.
It seemed to be nice, albeit impractical.
I am going to go down to a 4-5 day Flush, max.
In the Pro-Mix filled containers, 2 light waterings. And in the Ebb n Grow, with Hydroton, 2 - 2 day flushes, changing the water after 2 days, this is key. And refilling again. I may then reduce to 2 waterings a day, from 3, on the 'E 'n G' system, at this time. Both res changes with low amounts of CLearex (5 ml/g +/-)
Two runs ago, I did this, and it was as good as one week of flushing. If the plants were not overfed, periodically got plain water, they should be OK with that. And I can get one more PEAK feed in, during the 6th week that way.
It seemed to be nice, albeit impractical.
I am going to go down to a 4-5 day Flush, max.
In the Pro-Mix filled containers, 2 light waterings. And in the Ebb n Grow, with Hydroton, 2 - 2 day flushes, changing the water after 2 days, this is key. And refilling again. I may then reduce to 2 waterings a day, from 3, on the 'E 'n G' system, at this time. Both res changes with low amounts of CLearex (5 ml/g +/-)
Two runs ago, I did this, and it was as good as one week of flushing. If the plants were not overfed, periodically got plain water, they should be OK with that. And I can get one more PEAK feed in, during the 6th week that way.
B
Bazarocka
"Always Flush" That shouldn't even be a question my friend.
Im an Aero guy,,,but I do some somestuff on the side, using promix. When Im ready to flush, I let the girls get "thirsty". Then Water with R.O water mixed with about 2 tablespoons of Grandmas Molassis per 3gallon of water...tried & true and Works Great .....
Im an Aero guy,,,but I do some somestuff on the side, using promix. When Im ready to flush, I let the girls get "thirsty". Then Water with R.O water mixed with about 2 tablespoons of Grandmas Molassis per 3gallon of water...tried & true and Works Great .....
I use water only for 10 days. You would need to consider what NPK ratio anything you use during the flush has. Molasses has high K so you're adding K in the flush (organic yes but still feeding K to the plants).
mullray that is a great regiment! however I cant just say 10 days and done.. I consider flushing for 10 days minimum. I have flushed for 25 days before as the plants were just too friggin green! particularly without carbs. molasses has a high K but you are using it in a very diluted state. spring water in some places around here is 200ppm, giving them 5-10ppm water w a tablespoon of black strap isnt going to be noticeable.
the more the better
the more the better
Thanks for the feed on that. The more the better is my guess. Some say flush until the fans turn yellow and fall off the plant (flush till they drop). The main thing is flush. I use RO water which may make some difference. It would be interesting to run tissue analysis and find out just how long it does take for the minerals to be used up by the plant. I use raw molasses at about a litre to 200L so its pretty heavy use (0.5%w/v or total of approx 50000ppm in nutrient) - this then needs to be broken down to elemental NPK values keeping in mind molasses is 50% sugars with 30 -35% of this being sucrose. K based on my guaranteed analysis on the molasses is about 5% which means 50,000ppm in the molasses and K in the nutrient from 0.5%w/v molasses = 250ppm K or thereabouts. I think I could probably handle going up to 1%w/v molasses (1L to 100L = or 500ppm K) and am going to test this shortly. The system I use for flushing covers about 21/2 weeks using glucose and molasses and a half strength nute then going over to molasses and then flushing. Soil may need longer if there is NPK in the soil from organic manures still - that's a hard one to read and experimentation would probably be needed. By the time I'm done flushing my buds taste real sweet with no chemmy taste at all.
mr
the more the better
Thanks for the feed on that. The more the better is my guess. Some say flush until the fans turn yellow and fall off the plant (flush till they drop). The main thing is flush. I use RO water which may make some difference. It would be interesting to run tissue analysis and find out just how long it does take for the minerals to be used up by the plant. I use raw molasses at about a litre to 200L so its pretty heavy use (0.5%w/v or total of approx 50000ppm in nutrient) - this then needs to be broken down to elemental NPK values keeping in mind molasses is 50% sugars with 30 -35% of this being sucrose. K based on my guaranteed analysis on the molasses is about 5% which means 50,000ppm in the molasses and K in the nutrient from 0.5%w/v molasses = 250ppm K or thereabouts. I think I could probably handle going up to 1%w/v molasses (1L to 100L = or 500ppm K) and am going to test this shortly. The system I use for flushing covers about 21/2 weeks using glucose and molasses and a half strength nute then going over to molasses and then flushing. Soil may need longer if there is NPK in the soil from organic manures still - that's a hard one to read and experimentation would probably be needed. By the time I'm done flushing my buds taste real sweet with no chemmy taste at all.
mr
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I like the gradual cutoff of food. If I cared that much I would probably do the same with the sugars. In the ol days when I was a dirtfarmer, Hawaiian punch was the shizzle.. now I just use some carbo because I have tons of it leftover from my shop, and I can't stand the harshly stripped taste of buds leached for a week with clearex or final phase. Next run they get carbs for a week and ro the remaining time like I used too. no sweet or sweetleaf BS either.
im feeding ,was feeding,4tsp ff tigerbloom with 2 tsp koolbloom with 1tbls of brer rabbit blacktrap 2000ppm per gal. one gal a day every day. ie:full strength one day 1/3 nutes the next day and ro water the third day and so on.now im just feeding ro water. 1gal every day with about 25% run off! she's in sunshine 4 mix in a five gal bucket and is three years old. if i dont water every day the soil drys out big time! wish i could get pics to work on here cuz i think she's an impressive piece of work! im proud of her!!
jmansweed
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3 years old! Get the camera working Tinman - sounds interesting.
Your using primarily a synthetic/chemical blend base of nutes. Tiger Bloom and KoolBloom are solid nutreints. Tiger Bloom can keep things green IMO. Your specific strain may be effecient at using N. later in flowering also and maybe the combo simply keeps things greener - longer. (not to mention her age?!-which could some how have an effect)
I'm sure you see some benefit from adding Mollasses but remember much of whats in mollasses requires microbial life to fully process. Choosing the chemical base of nutreints, although not a bad decision, implies your priority is to feed the plant - not the medium. In any case, I can imagine a plant that old must dry out in the pot quickly. If yellowing is what your looking for flush even more water through her maybe? Let us know more about his plant if you get a chance...........thanks
Your using primarily a synthetic/chemical blend base of nutes. Tiger Bloom and KoolBloom are solid nutreints. Tiger Bloom can keep things green IMO. Your specific strain may be effecient at using N. later in flowering also and maybe the combo simply keeps things greener - longer. (not to mention her age?!-which could some how have an effect)
I'm sure you see some benefit from adding Mollasses but remember much of whats in mollasses requires microbial life to fully process. Choosing the chemical base of nutreints, although not a bad decision, implies your priority is to feed the plant - not the medium. In any case, I can imagine a plant that old must dry out in the pot quickly. If yellowing is what your looking for flush even more water through her maybe? Let us know more about his plant if you get a chance...........thanks
im guna try to take pics tonite and see if i can get it ta werk. yeah jman,it is a cool thing! i have over 30 colas on her. i think they could be much bigger buds but im still under a year new to this. this plant was brought to me by my sons friend who took it after my son died and now i have her and have made babies to keep her goin. think im guna grow one out for five years and see what she does. thanx fer the info. i like to learn as much as i can about the basic things.
Telegraphist.
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GH Ripen last 10 days
GH Ripen last 10 days
GH Ripen
It is only ionic salts, so more correctly a late flowering solution.
My first run with Ripen but so far it appears to help the late finishers hurry up a little bit.
Interesting about the energy drinks, anyone experimented with adding some concentrated flavorings? (for the esters)
(NOT TO FLAVOR PLANT)
Just what can the roots take up, i thought they could not take up large carbohydrate molecules but i do not know for sure
GH Ripen last 10 days
GH Ripen
It is only ionic salts, so more correctly a late flowering solution.
My first run with Ripen but so far it appears to help the late finishers hurry up a little bit.
Interesting about the energy drinks, anyone experimented with adding some concentrated flavorings? (for the esters)
(NOT TO FLAVOR PLANT)
Just what can the roots take up, i thought they could not take up large carbohydrate molecules but i do not know for sure
