Monsanto's GMO Corn Linked To Organ Failure, Study Reveals

[Grat3fulh3ad]

It is from a scientific journal- check the link I posted. They were fed 11% or 33% GMO corn as part of their diet.

Sorry pal - I understand this much better then you. What I said is true whether it fits your life view or not... I could really care less.

There are unfounded threads like this at "Treehuggers.com" all day long.

Once again, I'll say it slowly. Go eat 100 times the amount of the compounds found in your "organic granola bar" every day for a month or 2 and come back here and report to us your illnesses.

Grow the fuck up.

maybe you should read the study, smart guy...
unfounded, my ass...

You understand this better than me?? lmao... you equated breeding to genetic modification... you wear your ignorance on your sleeve...

My life view... lmao... if you bothered to search the forums or read my posts concerning monsanto over the years, you'd find me defending monsanto against bullshit claims... This time there is good science showing three of their GMO strains are dangerous...

I'm all grown the fuck up, kiddo, and my son is damn near all grown the fuck up... Why don't you un-ass your head and read the study?

Oh yeah, huffington reported on it, and that makes it invalid...

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Sorry pal - I understand this much better then you. What I said is true whether it fits your life view or not... I could really care less.

This is the most ignorant loud mouthed person I've seen since hoosierdaddy.

grapeman - You don't understand and you certainly don't understand much better... you don't understand it at all. The corn has been modified on a genetic level by Bt toxin from bacterium. The corn itself produces the toxin... on its own. It has killed plenty of sheep and cattle... why can't it kill humans?

 

[zymos]

The corn itself produces the toxin... on its own. It has killed plenty of sheep and cattle... why can't it kill humans?

As someone who is about anti-GMO as it gets, statements like this just make me cringe...

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I'd suggest you quit cringing and begin elaborating... but you can do what you like

 

[zymos]

...verified source for claims that Bt corn has "killed plenty of sheep and cattle"...??

 

[mean mr.mustard]

http://www.psrast.org/btkillssheep.htm

 

[mean mr.mustard]

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/BTTIGMC.php

 

[grapeman]

It is from a scientific journal- check the link I posted. They were fed 11% or 33% GMO corn as part of their diet.

Save your ignorant rants for somewhere else, cause you are just plain wrong...

I did read the study. It is not the corn folks.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I did read the study. It is not the corn folks.

you misunderstood then...
It's the chemicals the corn produces...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

the abstract from the study report...

We present for the first time a comparative analysis of blood and organ system data from trials with rats fed three main commercialized genetically modified (GM) maize (NK 603, MON 810, MON 863), which are present in food and feed in the world. NK 603 has been modified to be tolerant to the broad spectrum herbicide Roundup and thus contains residues of this formulation. MON 810 and MON 863 are engineered to synthesize two different Bt toxins used as insecticides. Approximately 60 different biochemical parameters were classified per organ and measured in serum and urine after 5 and 14 weeks of feeding. GM maize-fed rats were compared first to their respective isogenic or parental non-GM equivalent control groups. This was followed by comparison to six reference groups, which had consumed various other non-GM maize varieties. We applied nonparametric methods, including multiple pairwise comparisons with a False Discovery Rate approach. Principal Component Analysis allowed the investigation of scattering of different factors (sex, weeks of feeding, diet, dose and group). Our analysis clearly reveals for the 3 GMOs new side effects linked with GM maize consumption, which were sex- and often dose-dependent. Effects were mostly associated with the kidney and liver, the dietary detoxifying organs, although different between the 3 GMOs. Other effects were also noticed in the heart, adrenal glands, spleen and haematopoietic system. We conclude that these data highlight signs of hepatorenal toxicity, possibly due to the new pesticides specific to each GM corn. In addition, unintended direct or indirect metabolic consequences of the genetic modification cannot be excluded.

The Maize has beed modified genetically to produce poisons as a part of it's tissues...
The pesticide is what is being tested... the pesticide is what is causing the problems... the pesticide it the result of GM. it is not something which applied to corn which is being tested... it is something that the GM corn grows inside itself...

If you read the report, then you did not read well, or understand the report, grapeman...

From the Study...

One corn (NK 603) has been genetically engineered to tolerate the broad spectrum herbicide Roundup and thus contains residues of this formulation. The two other types of GM maize studied produce two different new insecticides namely modified versions of Cry1Ab (MON 810) and Cry3Bb1 (MON 863) Bacillus thuringiensis-derived proteins. Therefore, all these three GM maize contain novel pesticide residues that will be present in food and feed.

the corn contains poison as a result of it's genetic code. It IS the corn, folks!!

 

[elmanito]

A “super-weed” threatening agriculture. The problem is pigweed down in Arkansas cotton fields. There were amazing images of giant pigweeds growing thick and tall in the midst of a struggling cotton field. The worried farmers describe how they’ve noticed the herbicide becoming less and less effective over the last few years, and now it’s a REAL problem.

The story that ABC doesn’t tell, begins with Round Up ready (RR) cotton, a suite of cotton varieties genetically engineered to tolerate the Glyphosate herbicide commonly known as Round Up. Round Up kills all other plants (weeds) except for the Frankencrop, RR cotton (and RR soybeans and RR others). Why do I call it a “Frankencrop?” Because the genetic engineering of these varieties happened in a lab with gene guns and chemicals, instead of by natural, albiet directed selection. The technology is popular with farmers, because it’s so easy — plant, spray, harvest. No cultivation. No walking the fields with a hoe. No back-breaking physical labor. The pigweeds seem to like it too now.

After several years of Round Up dependent weed control, “old school” natural selection has come back to bite RR farmers on the ass. At first it was a plant or two in a single field. Through random shuffling of its genetic code, these mutants hit upon the same resistance to Round Up as the Frankencrop. The problem is that one or two isolated plants each produce a gazillion seeds, all with the same resistant trait, insuring survival of the species for years to come. That’s what nature does, and those of us who raised the possibility of this and other unintended consequences as GMOs were taking hold, were told not to worry. Scientists had it all figured out.

That’s why this feature made my blood boil. At one point (00:27) the statement is made that “the scientists who developed the herbicide,” say it’s the farmer’s fault for using the herbicide too much and that it was only a matter of time before nature found a way around. That’s rich. The scientists who developed the herbicide and the company responsible for selling as much of it as they could is Monsanto. Monsanto is never mentioned in the feature, except for a 2-second clip (oo:15) of a Monsanto employee saying it’s going to be around 2016 before a solution (another Monsanto product, one must suppose) is available.

Now Monsanto’s beautiful silver bullet has failed and it’s the farmer’s fault. But that’s OK. Hang in there farmers! Monsanto has another silver bullet coming down the barrell. They’ll be happy to let you have it — right between the eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-cka5s4AqE

Happy farming


Namaste

 

[zymos]

the corn contains poison as a result of it's genetic code. It IS the corn, folks!!

actually,that is only true of 2 out of the 3 strains used in the study:
"NK 603 has been modified to be tolerant to the broad spectrum herbicide Roundup and thus contains residues of this formulation"

But to insist "It is not the corn folks" is disingenuous. It is a fact that more pesticides are being applied due to the use of "RoundUp Ready" seeds and the like, and arguing about whether is is the pesticides or some other result of genetic engineering is almost beside the point...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

actually,that is only true of 2 out of the 3 strains used in the study:
"NK 603 has been modified to be tolerant to the broad spectrum herbicide Roundup and thus contains residues of this formulation"

But to insist "It is not the corn folks" is disingenuous. It is a fact that more pesticides are being applied due to the use of "RoundUp Ready" seeds and the like, and arguing about whether is is the pesticides or some other result of genetic engineering is almost beside the point...

the roundup residue is in the corn... produced by the corn to make it roundup ready... the residues of this formulation grow in the corn.

 

[zymos]

the roundup residue is in the corn... produced by the corn to make it roundup ready... the residues of this formulation grow in the corn.

Not true- "Roundup Ready" means it is resistant to Roundup, it doesn't produce it. Look it up...

And then they get to sell the Roundup also!!

 

[headband 707]

Monsantos does gene splicing making the seed extremely disease resistance that can only be handled by Monsantos over use of their herbicide and pesticide. The reason this is sooo wrong is that all insects will eventually adapt to the insectides being used and then they have a whole set of new problems like they are having right now. This whole experiment hasn't had time to show positive results and it's not going to .. Whoever let this whole thing pass is getting paided off by some very powerful ppl. The fact that no one seems to ever win in court against these guys is another problem.Grow your own crop with your own seeds .. peace out Headband707

 

[grapeman]

you misunderstood then...
It's the chemicals the corn produces...

Hey we agree. I guess what I am saying is that whoever at monsanto that came up with the idea to insert herbicide absorbing or insecticide producing genes into the dna had the best intentions but ultimately, it turned out to be a bad idea.

However, it is not the corn nor the fact that the corn is genetically altered. It's the chemicals. Trial and error, but without it, food would be much more expensive today and it would be impossible to feed the masses tomorrow.

We've been contributing to a grape breeding program for decades. The program has moved from grafting to dna. I would say there are about 100 failures to one promising variety. Even then, that one does not always make it in the real world under real farming conditions. But without these advances in science, there would never be bigger, better shipping (for long distances), sweeter, more productive varieties of anything save for mutations. I my 40 years of farming, I have found one mutation that had promise but did not pan out.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Hey we agree. I guess what I am saying is that whoever at monsanto that came up with the idea to insert herbicide absorbing or insecticide producing genes into the dna had the best intentions but ultimately, it turned out to be a bad idea.

However, it is not the corn nor the fact that the corn is genetically altered. It's the chemicals.

Yes it is the chemicals in the corn that the corn produces as a result of the genetic modification to the corn... so it is the chemical, yes... It is the three specific strains of GMO corn which produce and contain these chemicals as well, since the chemicals are integral to the corn's structure.... so when you say it is the chemicals, you are also saying it is the corn.

Trial and error, but without it, food would be much more expensive today and it would be impossible to feed the masses tomorrow.

Like I said... search GMO on the site and see how many "anti-GMO" comments I have ever made... I'm not posting this to slam the entire concept...

I do not like Monsanto's business practices, but that has nothing to do with the fact that three strains of their corn are poisonous(contain poison due to their genetic makeup)... The corn is poisonous trying to split hairs by saying that the poison is the chemical in the corn and not the corn itself it merely quibbling imho...

We've been contributing to a grape breeding program for decades. The program has moved from grafting to dna. I would say there are about 100 failures to one promising variety. Even then, that one does not always make it in the real world under real farming conditions. But without these advances in science, there would never be bigger, better shipping (for long distances), sweeter, more productive varieties of anything save for mutations. I my 40 years of farming, I have found one mutation that had promise but did not pan out.

again... BREEDING is a completely different thing than GENETIC MODIFICATION!

I'm all for improvement through hybridization...

It's the splicing genes from animals into plants to create modified genetics that holds the potential for consequences like this...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Not true- "Roundup Ready" means it is resistant to Roundup, it doesn't produce it. Look it up...

And then they get to sell the Roundup also!!

I know what roundup-ready means... I grew up in next to cotton and soybean fields...
I did not say it produced roundup... you look it up...
I am going by what the study said. It said the chemical were present because of the corn's genetic makeup and contained in the corn, not because it was treated while growing and was present on the corn. it produces proteins that are in roundup in its tissues it is these proteins which make it poison to mice. the study was not feeding roundup to mice, it was feeding corn to mice. I'm sure they did the animal testing of roundup many years ago...

EDIT... I did look it up... the poison the corn produces is the an enzyme which cannot be affected by roundup... roundup is glycophosphate, which destroys an enzyme plants need to live... RR ready plants have a new different enzyme, which is not good for mammals, it seems...

 

[CalcioErba2004]

Biochemical engineering is not a bad thing. It is a bad this when a company makes a chemical, alters a crop that everyone around the world eats(including animals) just so they can sell more of their pesticides and herbicides. Not only that they have patented this gene(how the fuck can you patent life??) and it is getting into "normal" plant strains and fucking up their gene pool. Like I said earlier, Monsanto is trying to monopolize the market of agriculture by making sure their gene is spread around. They say you cannot grow their seeds harvested from a crop but their gene is getting spread to crops that are not from their seed and then suing people for using their gene without paying for it.

People get sick from the round up that they spray on all these plants not the enzyme that they patented. It comes down to this. A farmer has a weed and insect problem and sprays round up and whatever on his crop. The weeds and insects aren't dying so he sprays more and more until they die. The corn and soy don't die because it doesn't affect them but that doesn't mean the plant doesn't absorb the chemicals that were sprayed on it. How do you clean them off? Spray them with more chemicals? This practice is what is getting people sick and killed, not the actual plants or seeds or the enzyme. Like I said biochemical engineering is not a bad thing, but business practices that put profits over the populations health is a very bad thing.

Another good documentary about this subject and food in general is Food Inc. I suggest watching it, it's a real eye opener.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

My focus isn't on the roundup ready enzyme.

I'm pointing out that Bt toxin, which works by causing holes in intestines in insects, is causing holes in intestines in mammals.

Though both are the product of genetic modification, I maintain that Bt toxin is more responsible for harmful effects than the aforementioned enzyme.