if you make bail...leaving the country...

[Capital G]

If I get popped with a garden I can't do the time for, what are my options?

well, if your already talking about how you can't do the time. it's evident what your gonna do when you do get your dumb ass caught. best advice anyone can give you is to be realistic with yourself you have no business trying to do anything illegal. wake up stop trying to be something your not. go back to school and get a good job. your well on your way to being a snitch, pump your brakes.

 

[Lakota412]

Most people don't realize how hard it is to run off. Most people don't have friends outside of there everyday circle of friends.

You run, all these friendships are over, and most of these people would not help you anyway, or they might end up on the run also.

you would have to start a new life, not easy.

and then you would probably get caught anyway, even if you did get away, you would always be looking for the hammer to drop, ruining whatever life you had put together.

But. Freedom is priceless. worth every hassle.

 

[antimatter]

from google if you live in the us.

Countries which do not have extradition treaties but do maintain
diplomatic relations with the US are

Afghanistan, Algeria, Armenia,
Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bophuthatswana, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi,
Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, China (People's
Republic of China), Ciskei, The Comors, Cote d' Ivoire, Djibouti,
Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia,
Jordan, Korea (South), Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Madagascar, Mali,
Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Maldova, Mongolia,
Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Principe and San Tome, Qatar, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saudi
Arabia, Senegal, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Western Samoa,
Yemen, Zaire, and Zimbabwe.

Countries which have neither diplomatic relations nor extradition
treaties with the US are

Andorra, Angola, Bantu Homelands, Bhutan,
Bosnia, Cambodia, Ciskei, Cuba, Iran, Korea (North), Libya, Maldives,
Serbia, Somalia, Taiwan, Transkei, Vanuatu, and Vietnam."

 

[antimatter]

Canada

Canada

Canada

>>> WITH EXTRADITION TREATIES IN FORCE:

Canada Treaty Information: Search:
Choose "Extradition" in the drop-down menu under "Subjects"
105 Treaties found.
Click on "View Details" for details of each treaty.
http://www.treaty-accord.gc.ca/Treaties_CLF/TreatyList.asp?Type=All&Page=TL

Albania
Argentina
Austria
Belgium
Bolivia
Brazil
Chile
Columbia
Cuba
Czechoslovakia
Denmark
Ecuador
El Salvador
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Guatemala
Haiti
Hong Kong
Hungary
Iceland
India
Israel
Italy
Korea (Republic of)
Latvia
Liberia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Mexico
Monaco
Netherlands
Nicaragua
Norway
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines
Portugal
Romania
San Marino
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Thailand
Switzerland
Uruguay
USA

>>> WITHOUT EXTRADITION TREATIES

List of Countries of the World:
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/countries_of_the_world.htm

Afghanistan
Algeria
American Samoa
Andorra
Angola
Anguilla
Antarctica
Antigua and Barbuda
Armenia
Aruba
Ascension Island
Australia
Azerbaijan
Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Belize
Benin
Bermuda
Bhutan
Bosnia and Herzegowina
Botswana
Bouvet Island
British Indian Ocean Territory
Brunei Darussalam
Bulgaria
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon
Cape Verde
Cayman Islands
Central African Republic
Chad
China
Christmas Island
Cocos (Keeling) Islands
Comoros
Democratic Republic of the Congo (Kinshasa)
Congo, Republic of (Brazzaville)
Cook Islands
Costa Rica
Ivory Coast
Croatia
Cyprus
Djibouti
Dominica
Dominican Republic
East Timor Timor-Leste
Egypt
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Falkland Islands
Faroe Islands
Fiji
French Guiana
French Metropolitan
French Polynesia
French Southern Territories
Gabon
Gambia
Georgia
Ghana
Gibraltar
Great Britain
Greenland
Grenada
Guadeloupe
Guam
Guernsey
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Guyana
Heard and Mc Donald Islands
Holy See
Honduras
Indonesia
Iran (Islamic Republic of)
Iraq
Ireland
Isle of Man
Jamaica
Japan
Jersey
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Kiribati
Korea, Democratic People's Rep. (North Korea)
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Lao, People's Democratic Republic
Lebanon
Lesotho
Libya
Liechtenstein
Macao
Macedonia
Madagascar
Malawi
Malaysia
Maldives
Mali
Malta
Marshall Islands
Martinique
Mauritania
Mauritius
Mayotte
Micronesia, Federal States of
Moldova, Republic of
Mongolia
Montserrat
Morocco
Mozambique
Myanmar, Burma
Namibia
Nauru
Nepal
Netherlands Antilles
New Caledonia
New Zealand
Niger
Nigeria
Niue
Norfolk Island
Northern Mariana Islands
Oman
Pakistan
Palau
Palestinian National Authority
Papua New Guinea
Pitcairn Island
Poland
Puerto Rico
Qatar
Reunion Island
Russian Federation
Rwanda
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Samoa
Sao Tome and Príncipe
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Serbia and Montenegro
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Slovakia (Slovak Republic)
Slovenia
Solomon Islands
Somalia
South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands
Sri Lanka
Saint Helena
St. Pierre and Miquelon
Sudan
Suriname
Svalbard and Jan Mayen Islands
Swaziland
Syria, Syrian Arab Republic
Taiwan, Republic of China
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Tibet
Timor-Leste (East Timor)
Togo
Tokelau
Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia
Turkey
Turkmenistan
Turks and Caicos Islands
Tuvalu
Uganda
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
U.S. Minor Outlying Islands
Uzbekistan
Vanuatu
Vatican City State (Holy See)
Venezuela
Vietnam
Virgin Islands (British)
Virgin Islands (U.S.)
Wallis and Futuna Islands
Western Sahara
Yemen
Zaire
Zambia
Zimbabwe

>>> The British Commonwealth (I would not go to any of these considering Canada's relation)

Antigua & Barbuda
Australia
Bahamas
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belize
Botswana
Brunei Darussalam
Cameroon
Canada
Cyprus
Dominica
Fiji Islands
The Gambia
Ghana
Grenada
Guyana
India
Jamaica
Kenya
Kiribati
Lesotho
Malaysia
Malawi
Maldives
Malta
Mauritius
Mozambique
Namibia
Nauru
New Zealand
Nigeria
Pakistan
Papua New Guinea
St Kitts and Nevis
St Lucia
St Vincent
Samoa
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Solomon Islands
South Africa
Sri Lanka
Swaziland
Tanzania
Tonga
Trinidad & Tobago
Tuvalu
Uganda
United Kingdom
Vanuatu
Zambia

>>> REVISED LIST: countries not covered by either the Fugitive
Offenders Act or the Extradition Act.

Afghanistan
Algeria
American Samoa
Andorra
Angola
Antarctica
Armenia
Aruba
Azerbaijan
Bahrain
Belarus
Benin
Bhutan
Bosnia and Herzegowina
Bouvet Island
Bulgaria
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cambodia
Cape Verde
Central African Republic
Chad
China
Comoros
Democratic Republic of the Congo (Kinshasa)
Congo, Republic of (Brazzaville)
Costa Rica
Croatia
Djibouti
Dominican Republic
East Timor Timor-Leste
Egypt
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Faroe Islands
French Guiana
French Metropolitan
French Polynesia
French Southern Territories
Gabon
Georgia
Guadeloupe
Guam
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Heard and Mc Donald Islands
Holy See
Honduras
Indonesia
Iran (Islamic Republic of)
Iraq
Ireland
Ivory Coast
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Korea, Democratic People's Rep. (North Korea)
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Lao, People's Democratic Republic
Lebanon
Libya
Liechtenstein
Macao
Macedonia
Madagascar
Mali
Marshall Islands
Martinique
Mauritania
Mayotte
Micronesia, Federal States of
Moldova, Republic of
Mongolia
Morocco
Myanmar, Burma
Nepal
Netherlands Antilles
New Caledonia
Niger
Northern Mariana Islands
Oman
Palau
Palestinian National Authority
Poland
Puerto Rico
Qatar
Reunion Island
Russian Federation
Rwanda
Sao Tome and Príncipe
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Serbia and Montenegro
Slovakia (Slovak Republic)
Slovenia
Somalia
St. Pierre and Miquelon
Sudan
Suriname
Svalbard and Jan Mayen Islands
Syria, Syrian Arab Republic
Taiwan, Republic of China
Tajikistan
Tibet
Timor-Leste (East Timor)
Togo
Tunisia
Turkey
Turkmenistan
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
U.S. Minor Outlying Islands
Uzbekistan
Vatican City State (Holy See)
Venezuela
Vietnam
Virgin Islands (U.S.)
Wallis and Futuna Islands
Western Sahara
Yemen
Zaire
Zimbabwe



http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=512566 theres a bunch of stuff there I didn't list.

 

[antimatter]

Id go to an Island with Pirates and become a Pirate, thats your best bet for survival from home country kidnappings.

 

[quest]

#1. After being bonded, DO NOT do anything to give cause to have your bond pulled.
#2. Get a court appointed attorney or Federal Public Defender.

A case in which someone is facing that much time, will take a lot of time to wind through the system.

I had a drunk driving misdemeanor that I stretched out for over three years (with 6 different public defenders), until I offered them $1,000 to get the case over. The drunk driving was dismissed.

I had a drug case that had taken over 5 1/2 years just to get to an Appeals court to decide one issue. If I wanted, I am sure that case could still be going on. ( It was arrested over twenty five years ago).

By the time your case finally is over, they will hopefully have found bigger fish to fry, or maybe the law that you aledgedly broke no longer exists.

If all of this fails, a large, far away english speaking country would be nice, Australia looks good from that list.

 

[antimatter]

If all of this fails, a large, far away english speaking country would be nice, Australia looks good from that list.

Australia was under the list of British Commonwealth so that wouldn't work, you would be better off picking a country like Vietnam.

 

[paris]

Naw, I just kill the thirteenth seed and remain compliant under my State's Laws.
Then I also work to change the laws which are not properly constructed, making improvements along the way.

If you aren't working to change the laws, then you shouldn't bitch when confronted with this situation.

I still say, sue the Federal government, mandating they hold tobacco equal under the law to marijuana or, change the laws pertaining to marijuana to reflect the same legality as tobacco.
Nobody is willing to step up and challenge the government so, nobody should complain.

The two arguments you just made have absolutely nothing to do with one another on any conceivable level whatsoever. I've got love for you dude but either you're high as giraffe pussy or you need to go to bed.

He means if you got busted for a grow & are looking at 20 to life you must have talked your way into some deep shit, rather than talk your way out of it. (dont mean to be nosey but how do are you looking at 20 to life for growing?
Either it must have been a big grow or you had 3 dead bodies on the furtilizer pile!
TBH you just need to man up & do the time, you wont be the 1st person to go to jail for 20+ years. Where ever you go if you choose to jump bail you will always belooking over your shoulder & unless you have a few million in cash you will find it hard to survive. I mean, how much would you say you spend a year to live? Rent, food, weed, bills, car whatever. Now try to think how you would pay for everything working with no ID, you would only be able to get cash in hand work or have to do dodgy stuff to get buy. Where would you live? Where would you get your weesd from?
Dont mean to sound harsh but these are just things you have to think about. I thought of jumping bail & going to live in Amsterdam or Spain last year on a production charge in the UK (production is the next charge up from cultivation in the UK) as i thought i was going to jail, but after coming up with an amazing defence plan (with no help from my brief) i didnt go down.

The UK dont have extridite to the US as they have the death penalty, if you can get over here with a bit of cash i can set you up with a place to live & a bit of work.

I was just saying theoretically. My nose is clean.

Hell, I say it's cowardly to wait until you're charged to make your stand in front of a jury. Owl Mirror, it's time to put your money where your mouth is. Turn yourself in and show us you're a man!

I'd volunteer, but I have no problem with people thinking or calling me a coward. I just don't want them to think me a moron.

This. How one can be so intellectually sloppy as to somehow confuse bypassing a ridiculous prison sentence as cowardice, well, it explains a lot.

well, if your already talking about how you can't do the time. it's evident what your gonna do when you do get your dumb ass caught. best advice anyone can give you is to be realistic with yourself you have no business trying to do anything illegal. wake up stop trying to be something your not. go back to school and get a good job. your well on your way to being a snitch, pump your brakes.

I pose a theoretical question for fun and the sake of discussion, and you call me a dumb ass, imply I'm a would-be snitch, and tell me to stop growing.

Nice to meet you too, capital g. Enjoy your stay here!

lol wtf is it with some of ya'll?

 

[Lord Doobie]

lol wtf is it with some of ya'll?

dood, the average age here is probably around 19
they're just babies until around 33
ask a stupid question...get a stupid answer

 

[*mr.mike*]

Most people don't realize how hard it is to run off. Most people don't have friends outside of there everyday circle of friends.

You run, all these friendships are over, and most of these people would not help you anyway, or they might end up on the run also.

you would have to start a new life, not easy.

and then you would probably get caught anyway, even if you did get away, you would always be looking for the hammer to drop, ruining whatever life you had put together.

But. Freedom is priceless. worth every hassle.

That's hardly true, if you know it's what you have to do. No, your friendships aren't over... there is an internet, and people do travel. People WILL help you, friends, especially family. There IS Western Union, for example.

If you're lucky enough to only be at a state level, you could leave the country, and STILL be able to renew your passport at an embassy without fear (do it through the mail, if you can). In most countries, you'd be able to pick up citizenship after ten years, without them finding out about your case.

I meet a couple people like this every month. If you had the balls (and the cash) to outright disappear, chances are you'll make it. This does happen everyday. Think indirect-third country, land routes and places where you don't need a visa for short (less than three month) stays.

Forget about your professional qualifications, unless you already have certificates in your destination.

Plan to work hard. Unless you've got lots of money. Then you have to find a partner you can trust.

You just have to go someplace where you look like the locals, and you can forget about speaking or reading english, unless you plan to teach it.

I'll just say this: If the wrong people came for me at work, I have the swiss seat all made up, and the clips and rope for five fast stories... old student loans and all...

 

[guest1ab]

I would go to Brazil and grow marijuana. Heck I'm already planning to do that!

 

[Stoned Crow]

The two arguments you just made have absolutely nothing to do with one another on any conceivable level whatsoever. I've got love for you dude but either you're high as giraffe pussy or you need to go to bed.

I was just saying theoretically. My nose is clean.

This. How one can be so intellectually sloppy as to somehow confuse bypassing a ridiculous prison sentence as cowardice, well, it explains a lot.

I pose a theoretical question for fun and the sake of discussion, and you call me a dumb ass, imply I'm a would-be snitch, and tell me to stop growing.

Nice to meet you too, capital g. Enjoy your stay here!

lol wtf is it with some of ya'll?

If you're dumb enough to get the time, you're dumb enough to do the time.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

Think indirect-third country, land routes and places where you don't need a visa for short (less than three month) stays.

what are some good countries? i have some in mind but i dont want to say on this forum in case it ever comes back to bite me in the ass.

 

[Owl Mirror]

dood, the average age here is probably around 19
they're just babies until around 33
ask a stupid question...get a stupid answer

Yeah, I forget that fact some times.
I'm used to conversing with adults, not children with dreams of an anarchist utopia.
I really fear for the future, if these are examples of the next generation.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

no "dreams" for an anarchist utopia, im just prepared for it if shit happens because its possible.

and yea sometimes us younger heads get really fed up with the way life is working, how we are born into a lifestyle where we are supposed to go get jobs and start families, when most of us just want to party and live life like we wanna.

they just did a study saying that modern day teens have way more problems with authority, depression, etc, etc.
im not a teenager im 23, but i can definately see how my current mindset was shaped when i was in high school, drugs, parties, run-ins with the law, it makes me a person today that really contributes nothing to society except the beautiful plant MJ.

 

[Owl Mirror]

no "dreams" for an anarchist utopia, im just prepared for it if shit happens because its possible.

and yea sometimes us younger heads get really fed up with the way life is working, how we are born into a lifestyle where we are supposed to go get jobs and start families, when most of us just want to party and live life like we wanna.

they just did a study saying that modern day teens have way more problems with authority, depression, etc, etc.
im not a teenager im 23, but i can definitely see how my current mindset was shaped when i was in high school, drugs, parties, run-ins with the law, it makes me a person today that really contributes nothing to society except the beautiful plant MJ.

anarchist utopia = " ... get jobs and start families, when most of us just want to party and live life like we wanna"- "contributes nothing to society"

I'm speechless

 

[Justa6655321]

Brazil has some of the best pussy in the world....I'm going to run there and try to get as many Brazilian women pregant as I can...

 

[beatster]

i would go live in jessica albas closet

 

[paris]

Synopsis: A few very angry older guys lack of reading comprehension skills leads to a poorly constructed argument- amongst themselves, as they manufactured their own controversy via poor reading- all closed and wrapped up in a mean-spirited generational attack.

conclusion: Talk about bongs and blunts here, nothing heavy.


How a thread like this can turn into such vitriol and personal attacks is amazing to me. I ask an interesting hypothetical(relative to the occupation of many here) and a few dopes with poor reading skills and self-hatred come in and ruin the party.

I'm not into bans, but if I was, I'd suggest some mods do some reading in this thread.

 

[ruthless]

If i got busted doing a big 1 and was looking at anything like 6+ id leave. Anything under that just think of it like its a job. How much have you made divide it by how many years your serving and thats how much your geting a year it would just make it abit easier u know?

But ye fuck going to prison id probably end up in costa del sol sipping sangrias with all the bank robbers hahaha