CNS17 - Multiple strain grow

[Hash Man]

Hi, I am Hash Man, this is my coco grow. I am using 3k watts over each 4x8 tray. I am growing a variety of strains and hybrids. I will post some pics now, but every now and then i will highlight a few different ladies in my garden. My favorite is the tahoe og kush. Rezdogs SSSDH is also giong to be shown here. Others include wonderfuck, powerplant, chemdog bx2, sourdog, venomhead, nycd,grape ape, grape punch, bogglegum, purple kush, gdp, etc... You will see each of these types and more in a single garden...

My obstacle is keeping the canopy even and keeping the stretch down, which i will do with topping and bending, and other types of training.

I think i have the coco down finally, after a few runs with it, but am open to any constructive critisism.

And here we go.

Row 1


Row2


Row3



Now some single plant shots.
My beloved ogkush.


Sour Dawg (JJNYC)


Sour Bubble (BOG) trust me its really her, topped multiple times. shes a good one.


Grape Punch (BOG)


More pics to come.


Nutes are CNS17grow at the moment. I may add some floraliscious one time before bloom, but will keep it basic this time ans see what comes. CNS17 grow, bloom, ripe. and thats it.

 

[Hash Man]

Its a jungle in here.

Its a jungle in here.

This is the first run that i have put so much light over such a small area and my plants are getting too big. i know whats going to happen if i allow normal stretch in flower. For this reason i have decided to use phosphoload this round. i will apply it the day i flip to 12/12 on my sativas and sativa dom hybrids, an d i will apply it on day 14 or son for my indica dom hybrids and such. i am going to use 1 ml/g and will feed no nutrients with it, because i have never used it and am worried about bburning or herming my crop.

Has anyone around here used the phosphoload in coco?

Thanks for stopping in. HM

 

[humble1]

1ml/gal is a little on the low side, unless you're applying as a foliar spray.
i've used phosphoload many times @ 8ml/gallon in coco with full strength or 2/3 strength nutes. if you can separate the feeding, i wouldn't use any phosphoload on your indicas. it mostly stops stretch, and most indica doms do not need that.
otherwise, you've got some top notch genetics and that's the best thing any grower can ask for.
have fun!

 

[Hash Man]

wow 8 ml per gallon seems like a lot, and i really dont want to ruin any plants. do you think that the intensity of the light has anythng to do with how strong or weak you apply the phosphoload? when you ran it did you notice a complete stop in streth?

 

[humble1]

i'm pretty sure the recommended dose is 2/ml liter which is roughly 8ml/ gal.
anyway, I've used it many cycles without ruining any plants.
i generally use bushmaster @ 1/2 - 1ml/gal to stop stretch and then with phosphoload a week later. these two together stop all stretch, and i've used the two interchangeably depending on what supplies i have atm. the dose is critical, though, and i would never exceed either dose with either product. with bushmaster i apply without nutes. with phosphoload i apply with nutes. some plants are more sensitive to the pgr products and i would back the lights off for a couple days on those girls.

 

[Hash Man]

right on man thanks for the info. i will back off the lights and the nutes and see what happens when i add the phosphoload. i have been going in at 600-800 ppm with a bit of good runoff every now and again. i will back off to 200 ppm and up the phosphoload a bit.

 

[themills]

1ml/gal is a little on the low side, unless you're applying as a foliar spray.
i've used phosphoload many times @ 8ml/gallon in coco with full strength or 2/3 strength nutes. if you can separate the feeding, i wouldn't use any phosphoload on your indicas. it mostly stops stretch, and most indica doms do not need that.
otherwise, you've got some top notch genetics and that's the best thing any grower can ask for.
have fun!

i'm pretty sure the recommended dose is 2/ml liter which is roughly 8ml/ gal.
anyway, I've used it many cycles without ruining any plants.
i generally use bushmaster @ 1/2 - 1ml/gal to stop stretch and then with phosphoload a week later. these two together stop all stretch, and i've used the two interchangeably depending on what supplies i have atm. the dose is critical, though, and i would never exceed either dose with either product. with bushmaster i apply without nutes. with phosphoload i apply with nutes. some plants are more sensitive to the pgr products and i would back the lights off for a couple days on those girls.

I am going to play devil's advocate and STRONGLY recommend running Phosphoload at no more than 1/2 ml per gallon.

Anything more seems to negatively effect aroma and flavor. It will still stop them in their tracks even at this strength.

 

[Hash Man]

i think i will try 1 mil per gallon and see what happens. will do it on all my plants as the canopy is even.
i had an issue with my extract fan yesterday and walked in to the smell of root rot and an 86 degree temp...i let all my ladies dry out well and am gonna water them really thouroughly tonight with the phosphoload and floraliscious plus to help with the rot issues. its not many plants but some are showing less vigorous roots than others. the smell is all gone too btw.
I think this is a good example of why you should monocrop, as all the plants have different needs. This is a case in point where i overwated coco somehow, even when the roots were like white velvet before i upped the dosage. Not sure what to make of this as i have never experieced it before. My main guess is low oxygen because of the high temps. I will take some pics and upload them soon.

 

[LJB]

This is the first run that i have put so much light over such a small area and my plants are getting too big. i know whats going to happen if i allow normal stretch in flower. For this reason i have decided to use phosphoload this round. i will apply it the day i flip to 12/12 on my sativas and sativa dom hybrids, an d i will apply it on day 14 or son for my indica dom hybrids and such. i am going to use 1 ml/g and will feed no nutrients with it, because i have never used it and am worried about bburning or herming my crop.

Has anyone around here used the phosphoload in coco?

Thanks for stopping in. HM

Hashman, not a threadjack, an FYI:

http://www.ag.auburn.edu/hort/landscape/temperature.html

Greenhouse Temperature
J. Raymond Kessler, Jr.

DIF = day temperature (DT) - night temperature (NT)

For example, DIF values of +10°, 0°, and -10°F are derived from 70°F DT - 60°F NT, 65°F DT- 65°F NT, and 60°F DT - 70°F NT, respectively.

The principle of DIF can be applied in the greenhouse to control plant height and reduce the need for chemical growth retardants.

– The primary effect of DIF is to influence internode elongation. A negative DIF may influence the biosynthesis of GA3 since spray applications of GA3 can cause normal internode elongation under negative DIF.

– Plant height can be decreased by decreasing the day temperature or increasing the night temperature or both. Achieve a close to zero or negative DIF. Conversely, to increase plant height, increase the day temperature or decrease the night temperature.

– The magnitude of the response to DIF is not the same across all DIF values. The increase in internode length as DIF increases (more positive) is greater than the decrease in internode length as DIF decrease (more negative).

– The difference in the day and night temperature determines internode length regardless of the absolute day or night temperature.

– DIF works best when plants are in a rapid stage of growth. Response to DIF is rapid, often as soon as 24 to 48 hours.

– Extremely negative DIF can have adverse affects on plants resulting in yellow foliage. If a negative DIF is applied for a short period and plants are returned to a positive DIF, green color usually returns to the leaves. However, young seedling treated for an extended period may remain yellow and stunted.

– DIF affects internode elongation, plant height, leaf orientation, shoot orientation, chlorophyll content, lateral branching, and petiole and flower stalk elongation.

cont. at link

I don't have the means to test this on our plant. It would have to be controlled. Two identical CEA rooms, etc.

Your plants look awesome.

 

[Lune TNS]

Hey looks like a great lineup and a great start, should be a fun show to watch

How do you like the cns17? I just switched over to it from pbp, pretty much everybody seems to dig the stuff...

 

[Citizen024]

Stopping stretch with phosoload may do it for you; I am interested to see if you try it as I have never used it before. I have a really stretchy strain I love and have to trellis to deal with. Would love to see how well it works.

I think one of the pics showed a really stuffed canopy, you could always thin out smaller branches to make room for your big ones to get space to breath and allow light in.

 

[W.P.]

I am going to play devil's advocate and STRONGLY recommend running Phosphoload at no more than 1/2 ml per gallon.

Anything more seems to negatively effect aroma and flavor. It will still stop them in their tracks even at this strength.

Good answer!!!!!! PGR will taste in a 3 wk flush, no matter what dose . IMOP

Will work as claimed and Hands down increase production 20%+!!!!!!

(Yeah If you like buds with less flavor , smell, TRICH'S, and that tastes like plastic burning......)


Others might not be able to tell........., these are facts from a connoisseur POV

 

[whadeezlrg]

nice setup!