Castelvetro
Member
HOw much veg do u think i would need, two weeks enough, even thats arbiturary, maybe one set of real leaves then flip? to acheive that yeild, i say leaves because everyones two week veg is probally differant based on skills.
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H3ad goes Coco
- Thread starter Grat3fulh3ad
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Alternating internodes is the most easily recognizable sign that a plant is sexually mature and ready to flower.
Castelvetro
Member
i was actually talking about from seed
I know.
clones are already sexually mature.
Plants from seed will usually not flower in 12/12 until they reach sexual maturity.
usually sometime between the 5th internode and the 11th or so, when they stop pairing and start alternating...
clones are already sexually mature.
Plants from seed will usually not flower in 12/12 until they reach sexual maturity.
usually sometime between the 5th internode and the 11th or so, when they stop pairing and start alternating...
Castelvetro
Member
never mind-
why nevermind? I completely and thoroughly answered your question already... It will be useless for you to flower your plants which you grew from seed, until they reach sexual maturity. You will know when to flip them to 12/12 by the alternating internodes.
Wow... I wouldn't be able to handle this thread were it mine!!
I would have dashed many a bottle of whiskey on the floor in absolute frustration!!
H3ad my hat is off to you, sir!
Thanks for taking the time, I have been toying with coco for a minute and this thread really helped.
So did all of the dumb shit... I got a chuckle when I wasn't pulling my hair out!
I would have dashed many a bottle of whiskey on the floor in absolute frustration!!
H3ad my hat is off to you, sir!
Thanks for taking the time, I have been toying with coco for a minute and this thread really helped.
So did all of the dumb shit... I got a chuckle when I wasn't pulling my hair out!
LoL... I guess it's the Zen in me... I take it all in stride and float like a leaf on the river... Toying with coco is fun, more ways than one to skin the coco cat, but I'm happy to share mine and my experiences with that...
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Peat
'lings
'lings
Here they are back on 12/19
Here they are today.
I must spread rep...
Thanks H3ad!
'lings
Here they are back on 12/19
These sprouted over the past 24 hrs...
Here they are today.
I must spread rep...
Thanks H3ad!
never heard that one! I always used the preflowers as markers.
Anyways, U can put em on 12/12 before that, even from germ if you wish, They will just stay longer in the strechy preflowering phase till they reach their maturity and start flowering.
Done that a few times already, u win a bit of time ( they grow faster on strech) but loose a bit of weight because of a streachier structure (less nodes and further apart).
Here they are back on 12/19
Here they are today.
I must spread rep...
Thanks H3ad!
yo peat, they look pretty similar to mine same age, well actually mine are a bit bigger 2nd pair of leaves is formed already. I see u got em with a clear green too. What ec are u givin them right now?
the lighter green ones im givin them 1.0-1.1 right now, but there is another strain much more N sensitive wich overferted on me just at 0.8 those im givin 0.6 ec right now.... but they are looking nasty.
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Peat
Hey Chimae
I'm giving most of them 3/4.5 (.94 EC)
I've bumped a couple up to 6/9 to see how they do...
I'm giving most of them 3/4.5 (.94 EC)
I've bumped a couple up to 6/9 to see how they do...
transplant
Member
Can you disolve the perubian seabird guano in the nute mix to give readily avalible 10 nitrogen 10 phosphorus? I usualy add it to my rockwool crutons nutevery mix with good results
Citizen024
Member
I need a little feedback from the H3ad experienced crowd if y'all dont mind:
1) In my veg ebb and flow with coco/50% perlite I use 450ppm Micro (which to me translates to be be 4.5ml/g) and 200ppm Bloom (which to me translates to be 4ml/g). With RO water it balances right at 6.0 pretty much. I than add 50ppm or so of Liquid Karma. After a few days if they are sucking it down I add some RO water, and bring the nutrients back up to where I want them by adding about 30-50ppm Magical (Cal Mag). If I don't reup it sometimes I see ca or mg def.
I play around with EJ Catalyst a bit as well- though it drops the ph and I am not liking adding up to the mix if I can avoid it. Doesn't seem to hurt if I do though.
2) Now I have a top feet coco/50% perlite and a dose of EWC flowers room. Run to waste. I have been using Pura Vida and am wanting to not risk playing with organics right now and convert over to H3ad now as I begin flowering. By my calculations the ppm readings should be: 600ppm Micro (equals 6ml) and 450ppm Bloom (equals 9ml).
I am then hoping to add Liquid Karma 50-80ppm and Sugar Daddy (7ml/g = 100ppm). Sugar Daddy has epsom in it, which should take the place of what H3ad put in his.
That and a light foliar of Nitrozime a few times and let er rip!
I had been having problems making the hand water for 12 days stay balanced. I have been using Pura Vida Grow 6-4-3 at 450ppm and Magical at 150-200 w/ the cut tap water. With the perlite especially it wants to be watered more frequently or it fluxs. Once a day heavy watering seems to not be enough. I notice my plants not so happy- purple stems and light green between the veins. Curled leaf edges. More in the center of the tray. Is this my watering or the fertilizer? I have reason to think its more from the watering then the fert.
Now I have my drip system in- so now it will be 2-3 times a day watering with 10-20% run off. I have a digital cycle timer, so I can set it for whatever I need.
3) I am cutting my tap from 330 or so down to around 200. Do I really need to do this or just roll the H3ad formula with hard water? I know thats what it was designed for originally. I see that when I up the Bloom to flowering strength it will cause the ph to go down, which would balance the hard water.
Lastly- it looks like H3ad's schedule goes like this:
Week 1-3: 6/9
Week 4: 6/12
Week 5: 0/9
Week 6-9: flush
That doesn't seem right. I can understand dropping the Micro down after week 5, but I can't imagine a 3 week flush. I am thinking I would run 6-7.5 with 0/9 with touchs of Micro is I see too much N dep.
What would you guys think of adding a dose of Pure Flowers 0-30-20 (1ml/g) instead of upping the Bloom in week 4? Then dropping off some of the Bloom in weeks 5-7 and adding Pure Flowers in? 1ml/gal= 100pm. So maybe dropping off 150ppm Bloom (3ml/gal) in place of the Pure Flowers?
Any insights? I already have started to feed em at 450ppm Mirco and 300ppm Bloom. I had the medium at 6 and the ppm of the runoff at around 1000pmm PV Grow/Magical in the medium. I am going to ease them into it since they are about to flip.
I really need this round to run proper, and the PV crashed on me (medium ph dropped- medium ppm was at 1400) at the same transition point last time. Once I got it back under control the damage was done. I definately needed to get my drip systems started sooner. Skipping any days watering seems bad- even though I hear to let coco sit when they are rooting into into it at first.
1) In my veg ebb and flow with coco/50% perlite I use 450ppm Micro (which to me translates to be be 4.5ml/g) and 200ppm Bloom (which to me translates to be 4ml/g). With RO water it balances right at 6.0 pretty much. I than add 50ppm or so of Liquid Karma. After a few days if they are sucking it down I add some RO water, and bring the nutrients back up to where I want them by adding about 30-50ppm Magical (Cal Mag). If I don't reup it sometimes I see ca or mg def.
I play around with EJ Catalyst a bit as well- though it drops the ph and I am not liking adding up to the mix if I can avoid it. Doesn't seem to hurt if I do though.
2) Now I have a top feet coco/50% perlite and a dose of EWC flowers room. Run to waste. I have been using Pura Vida and am wanting to not risk playing with organics right now and convert over to H3ad now as I begin flowering. By my calculations the ppm readings should be: 600ppm Micro (equals 6ml) and 450ppm Bloom (equals 9ml).
I am then hoping to add Liquid Karma 50-80ppm and Sugar Daddy (7ml/g = 100ppm). Sugar Daddy has epsom in it, which should take the place of what H3ad put in his.
That and a light foliar of Nitrozime a few times and let er rip!
I had been having problems making the hand water for 12 days stay balanced. I have been using Pura Vida Grow 6-4-3 at 450ppm and Magical at 150-200 w/ the cut tap water. With the perlite especially it wants to be watered more frequently or it fluxs. Once a day heavy watering seems to not be enough. I notice my plants not so happy- purple stems and light green between the veins. Curled leaf edges. More in the center of the tray. Is this my watering or the fertilizer? I have reason to think its more from the watering then the fert.
Now I have my drip system in- so now it will be 2-3 times a day watering with 10-20% run off. I have a digital cycle timer, so I can set it for whatever I need.
3) I am cutting my tap from 330 or so down to around 200. Do I really need to do this or just roll the H3ad formula with hard water? I know thats what it was designed for originally. I see that when I up the Bloom to flowering strength it will cause the ph to go down, which would balance the hard water.
Lastly- it looks like H3ad's schedule goes like this:
Week 1-3: 6/9
Week 4: 6/12
Week 5: 0/9
Week 6-9: flush
That doesn't seem right. I can understand dropping the Micro down after week 5, but I can't imagine a 3 week flush. I am thinking I would run 6-7.5 with 0/9 with touchs of Micro is I see too much N dep.
What would you guys think of adding a dose of Pure Flowers 0-30-20 (1ml/g) instead of upping the Bloom in week 4? Then dropping off some of the Bloom in weeks 5-7 and adding Pure Flowers in? 1ml/gal= 100pm. So maybe dropping off 150ppm Bloom (3ml/gal) in place of the Pure Flowers?
Any insights? I already have started to feed em at 450ppm Mirco and 300ppm Bloom. I had the medium at 6 and the ppm of the runoff at around 1000pmm PV Grow/Magical in the medium. I am going to ease them into it since they are about to flip.
I really need this round to run proper, and the PV crashed on me (medium ph dropped- medium ppm was at 1400) at the same transition point last time. Once I got it back under control the damage was done. I definately needed to get my drip systems started sooner. Skipping any days watering seems bad- even though I hear to let coco sit when they are rooting into into it at first.
Citizen024
Member
Having just made a test gallon of H3ad 6/9 I get: 20ppm RO, 530ppm Micro, 340ppm Bloom. 890ppm total. And it came out close to 5.0 (orange/red with the drops). If I add some hard water I should balance right out.
I am using a Hanna GroCheck.
My plants look happy with the sauce- leaves in full grow mode. We shall see what a couple days yields. I am going to go for good solid waterings 2 times a day to start, three is anything funny is happening. Checkin run outs close too. Right now it runs out at around 1100 and a nice solid yellow (6.0)
I am using a Hanna GroCheck.
My plants look happy with the sauce- leaves in full grow mode. We shall see what a couple days yields. I am going to go for good solid waterings 2 times a day to start, three is anything funny is happening. Checkin run outs close too. Right now it runs out at around 1100 and a nice solid yellow (6.0)
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GOOROO
everything looking happy in here. day 9 of flower
Gorgeous plants GooRoo I'm having similar results but I'm using Cutting Edge Solutions MICRO and BLOOM at 6/10 with tap water and PH sits at 6.0 or so I just have a drop kit not a pen but yea man for those in coco and got a sample pack of CES over the summer like a lot of folks on here did it works really good using Heads mix...
I'll post some pics in a bit
I'll post some pics in a bit
Castelvetro
Member
hey bro... I think you meant:
just trying to help...
btw... "floating like a leaf on the river" only implies going with the flow of life, without being to bothered by the unpleasant things which float along with you... It does not imply non-interaction with the river or the other flotsam or unawareness of the river... It just means "Take things as they come."
Sometimes I must float like a leaf on the river of life... and deal with a persistent poster of misunderstandings or slay an occasional troll...
what's your beef with me anyhow?
Peace and Love
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