Organic Soil and Multiple Reveg's

[Cave Dweller]

If anyone has a link, an idea or even a keyword for a search I would appreciate the help. Here is what I am working towards, multiple reveg's in organic soil and homemade tea. I doubt I am the first person to consider this has anyone shared this information?

Other than homemade tea I have limited experience in organics, most of what little I know I picked up from Rolan Terroy. I know that bone meal is slow, greensand is slow, glacial rock dust is slow what other sources would take a long time to break down?

If you have anything to share please do, I'll be searching and reading in the meantime.

CD

 

[CannaExists]

Hmmm... iunno eggshells? I always be reading how you should use dolomite lime for calcium cuz eggshells are too slow.

 

[beejium]

definitely use dolomite lime, it has mag in it as well... the re-veg might use a lot of nutrients, so there is going to be some early planning needed. other then that just re-veg as normal and you should be good. run a test first and see where it gets you and be sure to let us know how it's going. oh yea i dunno how far you have read up on re-veg, but it can be stressful to the plant. stress can sometimes teach a female new tricks, like making seed. you shouldn't have a problem as long as you are using good genetics.

 

[VerdantGreen]

i grew some of the rev's genetics recently - 15 week sativa called Black Forrest
hoof and horn would be a good slow source of nitrogen.

but if you are intent on doing this (i feel that you would get better harvests from a clone) - i would prune the rootball after harvest and then reveg with some fresh soil in the pot. watch out for overwatering as it wont drink much for a while. revegging is hit and miss and rather strain dependent as well as harvest time dependent - i would harvest on the earlier side rather than late and try to leave some healthy leaves on.

V.

 

[beejium]

i grew some of the rev's genetics recently - 15 week sativa called Black Forrest
hoof and horn would be a good slow source of nitrogen.

but if you are intent on doing this (i feel that you would get better harvests from a clone) - i would prune the rootball after harvest and then reveg with some fresh soil in the pot. watch out for overwatering as it wont drink much for a while. revegging is hit and miss and rather strain dependent as well as harvest time dependent - i would harvest on the earlier side rather than late and try to leave some healthy leaves on.

V.

go for clone if you can!

 

[maryjohn]

if you are dead set on this, I think stoned crow has been talking about it.

 

[BurnOne]

This would be a great time to use guano teas because you can just give the plant what it needs.
After harvest, give the plant time to recover. There should be plenty of food in the soil from the previous grow(s) to get the plant healthy.
Then just give them what they need.
All this must be done in a good grow medium like LC's Mix. There's enough dolomite in there for several grows.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Burn1

 

[Cave Dweller]

Hmmm... iunno eggshells? I always be reading how you should use dolomite lime for calcium cuz eggshells are too slow.

Thanks, eggshells might have a place will look into it further not sure how long the pulverized dolomite lime will last.---thanks

definitely use dolomite lime, it has mag in it as well... the re-veg might use a lot of nutrients, so there is going to be some early planning needed. other then that just re-veg as normal and you should be good. run a test first and see where it gets you and be sure to let us know how it's going. oh yea i dunno how far you have read up on re-veg, but it can be stressful to the plant. stress can sometimes teach a female new tricks, like making seed. you shouldn't have a problem as long as you are using good genetics.

The reveg is a necessary evil under the circumstances and healthy plants handle stresses better and it seems that organic plants are very healthy. I have read quite a bit about the benefits of organic farming and it seems a perfect fit.----thanks

i grew some of the rev's genetics recently - 15 week sativa called Black Forrest
hoof and horn would be a good slow source of nitrogen.

but if you are intent on doing this (i feel that you would get better harvests from a clone) - i would prune the rootball after harvest and then reveg with some fresh soil in the pot. watch out for overwatering as it wont drink much for a while. revegging is hit and miss and rather strain dependent as well as harvest time dependent - i would harvest on the earlier side rather than late and try to leave some healthy leaves on.

V.

After a little digging hoof and horn seems promising. Looks like sourcing and smell could be a problem though.---thanks

go for clone if you can!

No doubt cloning is optimal---thanks

if you are dead set on this, I think stoned crow has been talking about it.

Will look into stoned crow----thanks

This would be a great time to use guano teas because you can just give the plant what it needs.
After harvest, give the plant time to recover. There should be plenty of food in the soil from the previous grow(s) to get the plant healthy.
Then just give them what they need.
All this must be done in a good grow medium like LC's Mix. There's enough dolomite in there for several grows.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Burn1

:that's good news on the lime---thanks

CD

 

[VerdantGreen]

cave dwellar - what do you see as the advantage of this multiple reveg rather than taking clones?

V.

p.s. hoof and horn is pretty obscure these days but i got some off ebay. feather meal is also supposed to be good but i couldnt get that at all in the UK

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

All good suggestions, but if your goal is to avoid repotting and rootball trimming, I don't think that can be done.

 

[bakelite]

CD,
You may want to consider amending your soil with some Espoma Plant Tone. It is loaded with many long term release ferts that were mentioned on this thread (bone, feather, sunflower and crab meals, corn gluten, alfalfa, greensand, rock phosphate) all of which should be long release. Combine this with short-med release ferts and you should be good to go.

 

[jaykush]

minerals, in the form of rocks and rock powders, as many diverse materials you can find. as well a a high fungal soil. they will do the hard work turning the minerals into plant available forms.

 

[Castelvetro]

by the time alot of cannabis switches it hormones n starts to re veg u could of just planted from seed and been ahead in size of the plant by the time it responds n starts growing new stuff. just something to think about, expect about 3 -4 weeks for this to happen from what ive heard not seen.

 

[maryjohn]

aye, reveging a clone rescued from a windowsill took me a whole month. Then, the cuttings took a month each, instead of the 9 days or so it took to root that same clone.

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

The time revegging takes varies hugely based on two parameters, the first one being genetics. If the genes are amenable, any method will work. If they're not, good luck even with this method; At the time of harvest, leave at least three tiers of (healthy) leaves on the bottom. Harvest when the rootball is still a bit moist, but not too wet. Use a serrated bread knife to carefully cut the rootball down to a size that matches the remaining top and repot into a nutritive mix with good drainage. If the genes are liking you, the method and your growchops, regeneration will be visible in just a few days and you'll be able to make cuttings in another week. The good news is that only very, very few plants are genetically difficult to regenerate, with the vast majority falling into the easy to moderate category.

 

[Cave Dweller]

cave dwellar - what do you see as the advantage of this multiple reveg rather than taking clones?

V.

The advantage I am looking for is the least amount of time, space, effort and cost, plus a little flexibility. The goal is not as much as possible as soon as possible.

I have done a lot of reveg just not organic. Organics is what I am trying to wrap my mind around. From organics I am expecting a more healthy and stable enviroment.

CD

 

[Cave Dweller]

The time revegging takes varies hugely based on two parameters, the first one being genetics. If the genes are amenable, any method will work. If they're not, good luck even with this method; At the time of harvest, leave at least three tiers of (healthy) leaves on the bottom. Harvest when the rootball is still a bit moist, but not too wet. Use a serrated bread knife to carefully cut the rootball down to a size that matches the remaining top and repot into a nutritive mix with good drainage. If the genes are liking you, the method and your growchops, regeneration will be visible in just a few days and you'll be able to make cuttings in another week. The good news is that only very, very few plants are genetically difficult to regenerate, with the vast majority falling into the easy to moderate category.

I will consider root trim and repot but kinda ruins the advantages that revegn holds for me(less time, work and waste) In the past I have not touched the roots.

CD

 

[Cave Dweller]

All good suggestions, but if your goal is to avoid repotting and rootball trimming, I don't think that can be done.

That is not good news, that is exactly something I am trying to avoid. Never understood rootbound, I would think that with proper nutrients and air exchange the more roots the better.

 

[redandblack303]

I started to flower my plants and left the one I was gonna keep for a mother in the flower room to stretch her out a bit then put back in veg, she was in there for 2 weeks and it's almost harvest time now and she finally reverted back to veg. Now the worst part, mutant leaves, everything else looks fine bit the leaves, wtf, hope I can still clone and get another round out of this Grape Ape, I would like to get some pollen from one of the plants now and pollinate my mother the next round. We'll see.

 

[Cave Dweller]

I started to flower my plants and left the one I was gonna keep for a mother in the flower room to stretch her out a bit then put back in veg, she was in there for 2 weeks and it's almost harvest time now and she finally reverted back to veg. Now the worst part, mutant leaves, everything else looks fine bit the leaves, wtf, hope I can still clone and get another round out of this Grape Ape, I would like to get some pollen from one of the plants now and pollinate my mother the next round. We'll see.

No worries, the mutant leaves are to be expected. She will be back to her old self in no time.