How do you know when your flower cycle actually began?

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I don't think you can use the indoor finishing time for a given strain to estimate its outdoor time, for example saying a 9 week indoor strain will finish outdoors 9 weeks after the first flowers form.

Indoors the cycle goes straight from a 18/6 or 24/0 veg cycle to a 12/12 cycle, and finish times are figured from the start of this cycle.
Outdoors the plant endures a light cycle that slowly changes from 15-18 hours(depending on your latitude) on the longest day of the year, towards whatever length of day triggers bloom in mid-late summer. There is no slamming straight into blooming, it develops slowly at first, and would be very hard to judge.

 

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outdoors, youll never know.
generally it takes 2 to 3 weeks of flowering before pistils show (that should give a you an idea).
but this shouldnt be used to dictate harvest, especially with outdoor plants

look for calyx swelling, pistil color, and trichome size&color.

 

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I know this thread is OLD as hell. BUT!!!!!! After reading a bunch of different websites, I decided to write a breeder myself, and see if they would respond. I decided to go with Greenhouse Seeds, and they replied my email in less than 24 hours. I am only posting this to help any future people wondering when the breeders themselves start counting. I hope this help someone in the future. Now I know that this is only 1 breeder, and I will try to email a few more, but for now....... Here is a copy of my email from Greenhouse Seeds.
Happy Holidays,
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Dear XXXXXXXXXXXXXX(my name doesn't matter),

Thank you for your email.

You start counting from the moment you switch the light to 12/12. The
flowering time depends on which strain you are growing. If you completed the
flowering weeks and the hairs are still quite white you can leave them a bit
longer. When 20-30% of the hairs become brown they are ready.

Kind regards,

GHSC

Let me explain something before anyone starts tio argue on this thread also, about my post. LOL. I am not saying I completely agree with the info that was given to me. I still go by the trichs,and hairs/stigmas(which is what they were saying also) I was just trying to spead some knowledge. I didn't make this email to me up. I emailed Greenhouse seeds, and the post I posted originally, is a copied and pasted(except for my actual name LoL) from my inbox. SO I am just spreading what the breeder says. Does that mean that on the 8th week I'm gonna harvest because the breeder says it's an 8 week strain?????? Hell NO! I'm still gonna check the trichs. And also people are saying not so smart stuff like. U don't go by the hairs. THE HELL U DON'T! U might not, and neither may I. BUT those hairs go hand in hand with the trichomes as far as maturing. If ur trichs show that it's ready for harvest but ur hairs are WHITE, is that a good sign?????? NOPE! Ur hairs on ur bud wouldn't be white! Right????

 

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outdoors, youll never know.
generally it takes 2 to 3 weeks of flowering before pistils show (that should give a you an idea).
but this shouldnt be used to dictate harvest, especially with outdoor plants

look for calyx swelling, pistil color, and trichome size&color.

Thank u! Someone that said it all! Dude ur the first out of ALL the threads I posted this stupid email trying to educate, that has said what I feel is right! I started a war because of my copied and pasted letter from Greenhouse seeds. Apparently the breeder has NO CLUE about what they do with their seeds. LMAO! U have to take ALL of that in to consideration when harvesting. Because all of what u listed matures together, at the same rate. Thank u so much! Much love to u!

 

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Here Is Another Breeder's E-mail This One's From Ceres Seeds

Here Is Another Breeder's E-mail This One's From Ceres Seeds

I'm gonna start adding these Disclaimers to my posts, to avoid arguments. LMFAO!



*THIS DOES NOT MEAN I AGREE WITH THESE EMAILS, AND THAT IS THE CORRECT WAY. I AM JUST POSTING THEM TO ANSWER PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN BREEDER'S STAR COUNTING.


*I hope I don't offend any breeder's out there by posting these emails. This is for the SOLE purpose of people's E-JEW-MAH-KAY-SHION(EDUCATION FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T EDUCATED, LOL. JUST KIDDIN PPL. SMILE!). It does NOT mean that we are actually growing any cannabis. Unless it is allowed in our country

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Hai xxxxxxxx.(once again my name is IRRELEVANT

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the correct answer would be from the moment you switch from 18/12 to 12/12.
Of course the stated flowering times are indications. You might want to flower a
couple of days longer or shorter, depending on your circumstances .

Good luck.
Louis

Ceres Seeds Amsterdam
PO Box 10213
1001 EE, Amsterdam

Email: [email protected]
Website: www.ceresseeds.com

 

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I wish I had 30 hours of time a day. That'd be nice

 

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I wish I had 30 hours of time a day. That'd be nice

I must agree with u, that "at times" it would be nice to have 30 hours a day, BUT!!!!!!!! Then what about those days that u're just ready to call it the end of the day. What if I had to deal with 11 more hours of that feeling, opposed to 5 hours of dealing with it. But if I blazed 30 hours a day, and didn't have the care in the world.......... I would say "Give us 48 hour days", Hey actually if u break it down, and we did 12/12 light cycles, on 48 hour days....... DUDE! We'd have our plants chopped in HALF the time.... LMFAO! (Though time is time, and it would still equal out, but it'd be less days. So that would make it "sound" better)