Why INDOOR is ALWAYS better medicine

[Hash Man]

indoor is generally fresher that outdoor because it s produced year round. i like outdoor a lot after harvest, but will pick indoor nugs to smoke on if i have the choice. i go back and forth on this one, but indoor seems to have more frost coverage in general; and with no worries about weather, the strain can finish in peace.

 

[THCV]

inside, i control what ends up on the plant. kaneh, i have never heard of gasses building up on plants inside; it is the particulates that matter, and you are spinning BS to say that things inside my lab-like grow are "releasing micro particles". Nevertheless, as i said, carbon filters take care of particles and VOCs (gasses). You can try having surgery outdoors, but I'll pass--you know that's total BS. Nice try though. Microbes and spores fill the air, not a good idea to get cut open outside if you can avoid it.

As for combustion by-products, i would prefer the devil i know (MJ) to the devil i don't (random elements of dust). But hey, you outdoor cats are in denial, and i understand, it's hard to come to terms with. Don't worry, you'll be fine. But I'll be better. Because i am in control of my medicine, and you are not.

 

[theJointedOne]

ummm outdoor does not all have dust. I gro at around 4000 feet next to a pristine river and no roads anywhere. this stuff in my opinion is way better tan any indoor

outdoor the best

indoor is stress

 

[theJointedOne]

oh also check the stats on how much enerygy it takes to grow a pound indoors, you are ruining the earth!!!

only an inexperienced smoker of cannabis would say that indoor is superior to outdoor. I have been living in northern california my whole life. I have NEVER even seen herb that is seeded let alone crappy mex weed. And after I have talked, worked for, and learned from over a hundred master growers here, not one will tell you they think indoor is better. I met the guy who was running mendo healing. He had the biggest op i have seen with well over ten thousand plants indoors and out and gh's too. guy will tell you outdoor is the best. Taste is supereior, high is WAY superior, and the fact that this plant is a creation of the almighty and was placed outside to grow leads me to belive the best herb is coming from outside.

ps. i am in the bay for vacay, i wen to the clubs yesterday and spent a lot on a bag of stuff that looked good called sour grapes and some kush. I didnt even get high at all. Then i smoked a bowl of my outdoor and OMG it is like the full spectrum light of the sun versus a flouro, sure the flouro is gonna make someting happen, but c'mon

 

[THCV]

JointedOne, that sounds like your OD is the only type of OD i like. But I use co2, so my nugs are larger and denser than anything i have ever seen outdoors. Another, more obvious advantage to indoor sealed setups.

You guys love outdoors because it's cheaper, right? And the rest is just arguing right? I mean, if you could have your prize strains growing indoors in 1800 ppm CO2 and totally clean air at no additional cost, you are telling me you wouldn't do that? Because outdoor is "stonier" or something, whatever that means (more CBN is what that means, probably)? It's like abortion or same-sex marriage, people take their positions and then won't let go. But i have grown both, and i know what's up. Indoor medicine rules over outdoor, in the marketplace of patients and cannaseurs in socal, and in my own joints.

 

[THCV]

oh please. come try and sell your awesome outdoor in socal, you won't get more than 3000, and that is for the absolute best. meanwhile, i get 5000 all day. why is that? sheer force of will? no. people look at my indoor nugs and say "let me get my cash". There is no hesitation. Believe me, it isn't salesmanship. So, please explain why A++ indoor is worth so much more than A++ outdoor in the most competitive pot market on earth. I'm listening. Oh wait, maybe you've never been down here and seen killer indoor. Yeah, the indoor from up north isn't as good, not sure why, maybe a cultural thing? Anyway, indoor A++ kush RULES down here, and it ain't easy to make, and yes, it generates greenhouse gasses to do it, like every other stinking business on earth, aside from outdoor organic growing.

I guess it's time for the inexperienced kush haters to flame...but please don't bother on this thread.

 

[jaykush]

you forget about greenhouses, a good climate controlled greenhouse is far better than any indoor system hands down, anyone who says otherwise just doesn't know.

indoors has its benefits, and so does outdoors. a greenhouse gives you both

ps i lived in socal my whole life and i know socal dank.

 

[theJointedOne]

oh please. come try and sell your awesome outdoor in socal, you won't get more than 3000, and that is for the absolute best. meanwhile, i get 5000 all day. why is that? sheer force of will? no. people look at my indoor nugs and say "let me get my cash". There is no hesitation. Believe me, it isn't salesmanship. So, please explain why A++ indoor is worth so much more than A++ outdoor in the most competitive pot market on earth. I'm listening. Oh wait, maybe you've never been down here and seen killer indoor. Yeah, the indoor from up north isn't as good, not sure why, maybe a cultural thing? Anyway, indoor A++ kush RULES down here, and it ain't easy to make, and yes, it generates greenhouse gasses to do it, like every other stinking business on earth, aside from outdoor organic growing.

I guess it's time for the inexperienced kush haters to flame...but please don't bother on this thread.

i am not hating. And for your info i have had herb around the world and lots of the stuff from so cal. I will admit, they like their innies more than outties but to me i see that as a cultural thing like how popular culture is all about money and bling and cars. Well its not like that up here in rural norcal, your heart and the way you treat people is how you are judged, not by the size of your wad of cash..... but to say that so cal is pumpin out better than nor has no basis, you just have more kids and newbs shouting out to the world what they are doing!!!!!

Sad to say most patient down there cannot afford more than a gram every few days, that is bullshit imo. I would guess that most of the stuff down there comes from up here. All the kushes floating around are not even real kush either, doesnt that trip you out? OG kush doesnt much smoke at all like real kush genetics from the hindu kush mountain range of the mid east. Just a name! And so what if dudes like the indoor, it just brings out the rats that smell money and id rather deal with mi bretheren than some bobby babylon.

i went down and was supposed to meet up with a owner of a few disp's. anyway i get down there and it is the mother fucking russian mafia....you will be hard to find that scene here in the real norcal.

 

[theJointedOne]

JointedOne, that sounds like your OD is the only type of OD i like. But I use co2, so my nugs are larger and denser than anything i have ever seen outdoors. Another, more obvious advantage to indoor sealed setups.

You guys love outdoors because it's cheaper, right? And the rest is just arguing right? I mean, if you could have your prize strains growing indoors in 1800 ppm CO2 and totally clean air at no additional cost, you are telling me you wouldn't do that? Because outdoor is "stonier" or something, whatever that means (more CBN is what that means, probably)? It's like abortion or same-sex marriage, people take their positions and then won't let go. But i have grown both, and i know what's up. Indoor medicine rules over outdoor, in the marketplace of patients and cannaseurs in socal, and in my own joints.

no i prefer to smoke stuff grown organically with love outside b/c it is the ital way to grow, and when you are like me and smoke two ounces a day it really helps if the herb is smooth, not harsh, organic and strong! I tried to find the info about the cost of energy/ per ound of indoor grown but i couldnt find it, i think it is in the second to last issue of HT. I totally get your point that you like indoor and that is your preference. I am just pressenting another point of view.

An in regards to you not seeing buds bigger than you make indoors you obviously havent been to a sophisticated pro outdoor medical set up. We have buds the size of human torso's, forearms and heads so that argument is out the door (not a pun!).

i think the best thing about outside is a patient can invest a thousand ibucks into 6 plants and with good sun and hard work can get over 12 pounds easy of premium bud. Try even starting a indoor room for that. It is possible but your are gonna need a few years to pull in twelve pounds

peace

oh and i wouldnt start a tread like htis without expecting people like me to weigh in

 

[reddy1]

So, please explain why A++ indoor is worth so much more than A++ outdoor in the most competitive pot market on earth.

bag appeal. indoor is less leafy and usually more green. people prefer the indoor because they(YOU) don't know any better. just like purple buds.

outdoor weed is way more potent. take the same cut, same grower, and you will prefer the outdoor. maybe because i don't live in "dusty" old socal so my buds don't taste like shit. actually the fresh air must flavor the buds with something special because they are really tasty in my neck of the woods.

 

[theJointedOne]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=5447&pictureid=149909

this is from buttes album but it is a good example of how we do it up here. A little nicer than your neighbors outdoor he grew in a tire next to the highway?

 

[VerdantGreen]

its harder to grow outdoors, with more variables out of our control, but high and potency wise the outdoor is a bit better - just has an extra edge - due to the plant growing in the same light that it has evolved to grow in. recently i bought a CMH lamp to see if this spectrum give that edge to indoor weed.

not sure about the logic of this dust thing, lots more toxins indoors, most of them not particulate - how many of these does indoor weed absorb?

V.

 

[psyke]

Dust contaminated outdoor-buds.... pfff!

This is ridiculous. Let me explain why:

First of all: You are breathing dust all day long and it is not really a problem, so where is
the difference to the little, which is on the outdoor-buds?

And by the way: car tires remain on the road, neither in the air nor in the bud.

Second thing. You have dust in your flat and it is not just a little bit, indeed it is a lot because dust consist mainly of skin and skin occurs where humans are. So it is in your flat. I don´t know anybody who filters his air for his growroom.

Do you?

P.S.: Have you ever taken a look on your "super-sticky" trichromes under a microscope?
So if theres the killerdust, like you say, show a picture, where you can see the contamination widely.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

but so does the other 99%.

Do you think that anything that is created from the combustion of MJ is actually a good thing, besides the minor amount of actual thc molecules, which make up a few percent of the overall combusted material.

You're focusing on the detail of dust and over-looking the bigger picture that this is a drug that is actually combusted in order to work.

If you were eating it, it would be a different story.

....or you could take blue dot's preferred medical delivery system method. All you need is cannabis tea and a turkey baster with some KY on it and youll never need to combust your medicine again...

 

[statusquo]

Obviously there are other factors but growers request more for each indoor pound because it takes alot more time, effort, and resources to grow indoor vs. outdoor. The potency will not be stronger indoor...if anything it would probably better outdoor. The only other factor would should be the bag appeal of the indoor because the smell would probably be similar in both. You guys are assuming standard markets but it is not true supply and demand IMO. Maybe in select areas it is but frequently the growers (suppliers) have much more leverage than normal. They have stuff that people want and set their prices and they obviously aren't asking more for indoor because of potency or bag appeal. The primary factor is the limited supply they can obtain vs. outdoor...

 

[BurmeseDragon]

There is no way that all the dust can be filtered indoors, just having you go into the room brings in skin cells and a lot of them. Hairs fall off, you kick up dust just walking around, outdoors nature cleans herself.

Plus not one light beats the sun's rays, but then again some hybrids have been developed indoors....and they do lose outdoor strengths. It really depends who is growing indoors, it's hard to find trichromes as good with indoor plants than outdoor...not saying there is a rule to the way!

It's like saying which is more potent, Sativa or Indica...well it depends very much which and who's (grower and genetics but mostly the grower)

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

hahahahha 5K for your kush... that is fucking hilarious. people bring me indoor og all day at under 4. you guys days of demanding ridiculous prices is long fucking gone. that only pulled in LA for a short amount of time. then the greenhouse og came in and it wasjust as good as your guys indo kush and WOOOPS there goes your 6k per piece market

 

[titoon29]

i've been smoking outdoor grown buds which where as potent as the best indoor around. also, some sativas will definetly reveals there flavors outdoor.

not all strains perform well outdoor. if you know your soil, your climate, your strains, then you will get medicine which is as good as indoor. ive smoked some mandarina nycd outdoor in spain which tasted far better than a lot of indoor nycd buds i ve grown. in fact in spain it seems that when the grower is good, you can t tell wether it s indoor or outdoor. and i ve smoked outdoor that had reached a potency i would never expected.

and getting bigger than outdoor buds indoor, even with co2, i doubt it, and i m sure you ve seen those 1 kilo /2 kilo yielder plants, with sometimes very very dense buds. but again, the grower needs to be good.

yes, if you re beginner, have no knowledge in traditional farming, it will be easier to get very nice product indoor, quickly, that's because years of testings in the same conditions, internet, grow shop, so every body has the knowledge how to do it properly. whereas outdoor needs a lot more knowledge and try outs.

now tell me you ld rather smoke an ice o lator than some amazing nepal polm ? i don t. even if iceolator is sometimes more "raw"potent. nepalese, indian, afghan, morrocon, have been doing this for years and some have reached some of the finest outdoor production, very special and for that i totally respect them and would say they should keep on doing that stuff ... and it s totally pure (no dust !)

anyway, i bet you just need to find a real outdoor grower, and you ll understand what i mean. trust me, i thought like you just few months ago...

++

 

[theJointedOne]

agreed big herb tree, i have never seen 5k. only heard of it. or you have cats flipping ounces and then claiming they get 5 a elbom when if you do that you are not getting 5k a elbow you are gettin whatever it comes out to per ounce.

 

[trybud]

Hmmmm...indoor bud from the nice and clean smog-free air of SoCal (yeah right)or outdoor weed from above the Grass Valley,Ca area(4000'+).....Im willing to bet the farm I have less contaminants overall. Rain,wind and temperature extremes play havoc on outdoor potency and appearance but in a perfect summer season the outdoor meds are very comparable.