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Piracetam

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ok now that ive wiped up my drool. thats was very nice indeed. I now have an even higher respect for Shantibaba. but.... I think those 16 years old plants were clones of clones over the years. I'de like to see one that is 16 years old that is its original self.

As a human being you yourself aren't exactly your original body after roughly every 7 years
 
Piracetam . I go thru so much in my life im changing every 2yrs if not sooner. Things happen and go wrong. I learn and change from it. I'm not producing flowers though.

It would be really neat to see a Bunsai Cannabis plant.
 

♥Mo♥

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I think those 16 years old plants were clones of clones over the years. I'de like to see one that is 16 years old that is its original self.

After watching the youtube video it sounds like shantis moms are original 20 year old plants. He then goes on to explain about taking cuttings and making the clones from the original mom. In my mind it is a plant and with proper care it could/should grow forever.:smokeit:
 

Pythagllio

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♥Mo♥;2986700 said:
In my mind it is a plant and with proper care it could/should grow forever.:smokeit:

The females anyway. No way to keep a male from senescence if it flowers, and the fuckers will flower under 24 hour light.
 

bs0

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I love bonsai trees.... And with that, if you grew under MH constantly you could make a bomb cannibonsai.. internodes so short and maliable
 
CannaBonsai would be something I would like to try. Maybe a floro bulb would be cheaper over the years. Anybody here practice Bonsai?

Keeper..... to funny on the worlds oldest pot plant.
 
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at one of the past harvest fest in the NE

maine 2007 or 2008 they had a plant that was at least 7 years old on stage

i dont think that this is a record
 

TexasToker

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I have seen a 14 year old mother. I was probably about 17 or so at the time. The thing was gnarly looking. It was pretty small but you could tell it was old by the bark on the trunk....yea, it looked straight like bark.
 

Mr. Greengenes

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Rats, I thought this thread would be about the longest living clone. I don't see the difference between long living 'mum' and the same plant recloned many times, perhaps someone could explain? Ah, nevermind. I do have a story about a long living 'mum', though. An original Greengenes Cherry Bomb plant that was revegged 4 years in a row outdoors here in SoCal about ten years ago. CB can grow trees covered with 'monkey fists' when you put it in the ground and this tree was so pretty the owners couldn't bear to cut it, so they just left it and the next year it volunteered another crop, and then another, and so on. They only ended up pulling it out to make room for some of it's choice daughters. I only saw it 'in person' one year (the third), but it was obviously (still) going to yield a bit more than 5lbs.
 

funkervogt

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Rats, I thought this thread would be about the longest living clone. I don't see the difference between long living 'mum' and the same plant recloned many times, perhaps someone could explain? Ah, nevermind. I do have a story about a long living 'mum', though. An original Greengenes Cherry Bomb plant that was revegged 4 years in a row outdoors here in SoCal about ten years ago. CB can grow trees covered with 'monkey fists' when you put it in the ground and this tree was so pretty the owners couldn't bear to cut it, so they just left it and the next year it volunteered another crop, and then another, and so on. They only ended up pulling it out to make room for some of it's choice daughters. I only saw it 'in person' one year (the third), but it was obviously (still) going to yield a bit more than 5lbs.

That's pretty amazing. I wouldn't get rid of it either!

To answer the OP - I don't think you'll find too many 20+ year old plants as in the-exact-same-plant-in-the-exact-same-pot. What you will find is 20+ year old plant genetics floating around. Plants themselves tend to die, which is why breeders often keep exact copies in many different rooms (Shantibaba). If there's a fire or disease or something in one room, at least the backups are okay. A single plant is very easy to kills with the exception of the above monkey pawed monster.

:xmastree::xmastree::xmastree:
 

indifferent

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Interesting. I always thought cannabis wouldn't live more than one year outdoors. Sam Skunkman posted something about this a while ago, that he had heard many tales in Nepal and Thailand of plants several years old and when he went and examined them, they never were, just very vigourous plants that had grown very big in that one season.
 
I'm very aware that taking clones of clones to keep a good mom alive. but i'm just interested in the ones that were kept alive for so long just to keep it alive. nothing more. and I could be wrong but I truley doubt Shanti has kept the same plants alive for that long. most likely clones of clones. I mean the man is in business and he is taking thousands of clones from what he says off these moms. these moms would be HUGE from taking that many clones over that many years. plus he would be worried about a healthy plant and it would be much easier for the man to take clones of clones to keep his library up.
 

indifferent

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He probably replaces them regularly, maybe once a year.

They don't get huge if you keep cutting them back for cuttings, they just get very thick stems.
 

Sheriff Bart

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there is a certain point where the plant will no longer be able to grow. as cannabis is not technically a woody plants (it doesnt make waht we consider real wood, it is an herbaceous plant) it is highly limited to the amount of secondary growth which can occur (the growth in the stem, increasing its girth, is known as secondary growth). at one point the xylems and phloems in the stem will no longer be able to function properly becuase the stems have undergone so much secondary growth they basically choke themselves. The xylem cells are like straws, running along the inside of the stem. they are basically dead cells, and have supporting cells right next to them. in woody plants they are used for one year, then they are totally lignified and compacted, and new xylems are grown (this is part of how you get rings on a tree). woody plants are able to expand in this manner better than herbaceous plants. this is what will limit an herbaceous plant like cannabis. I myself have an extremely hard time beliveing that any single cannabis plant could exceed 15yrs, but I dont think its not completely possible but it would take a lot of care, and would have to be very carefully trimmed and maintained to keep this secondary growth at a minimum and keep it in primary growth (upwards growth of stems, root elongation and leaf development). so it would really depend on how it was cared for, but still, i think that for a single cannabis plants 15yrs is pushing it. but it would be hard to prove...
 
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