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blynx

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hi blynx - no need to be like that - you misread my question,

i asked if you had tried to flower 9 plants that size in your cab. in the previous grows where you grew 9 plants they were much smaller.

i was suggesting you grew 9 plants where the yield from each plant averaged about a quarter oz like the ones above.

the colas on my square foot scrog screens come out at around a quarter each and i manage to squeeze 9-12 of them per square foot - so you can pack them in - whether they are sog or scrog doesnt have to effect that (although you do need good ventilation). i might be able to make some suggestions as to how you can increase your yield - that is if you are interested? - after all we are all here to learn from each other right :)

heres an example - UK cheese - just finished at day 68
top view - in the cab the buds get squashed together to the size of the screen by the other 3 plants

Yep I missed the that size, I apologize for coming off like a jerk.

An important thing to keep in mind with this cfl cab is that I am not interested in doing any kind of scrog or tyeing down.

This cab is for fun, but I also want it to be as hands off a cab as I can, while growing in soil and only watering with tap water.

While I do look to increase yield, it is through finding a good combination of strain/container size/start size/etc, and not through training of the plant.

It looks like you use a single container per square foot, I still haven't tried that and not sure if I'll be able to (I'd have to build it in cuz I wouldn't be able to get a 1sq ft tub into the cab). So I'm limited to using multiple containers.

You are also using an HPS while I'm using CFLs. I do believe HPS does make a difference in terms of ability to make a thicker canopy than CFL if you are doing a scrog like yourself. The HPS gives a wider spread than the cfl even if using multiple cfls.

I have 3 plants going in one container under a cfl and it remains to be seen what the yield will be. I had thought that 3 would be the ideal number, but now I'm not so sure. I think they are too crowded. They 'canopy' looks good, it has 3 nice top colas, but there isn't much going on down below that, and relatively speaking the colas are smaller than if you grew a single or double in the container.

I'm open to any ideas that don't involve plant training (scrog, tyeing,etc), feeding the plant during flowering, or changing mediums.
 

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hi blynx no worries :)

understood you dont want to do scrog, but i think you could achieve a similar canopy using sog, just that each top would be an individual plant. your cab is quite similar to mine with the vent holes in the bottom etc - you could always make them a bit bigger or have more of them if you felt you wanted more ventilation with a crowded canopy. if you havent already then some mylar on all the inside surfaces helps make the most of the light.

you are right i use one pot per square foot, but i think that volume of soil is one big factor in yield - whether it is in one pot or spread over a few. i use 3-4 gallons of rich organic soil per square foot - and like you i just add water (maybe a little biobizz bloom if i think they need it).

using multiple plants in bigger pots was another thing i was going to suggest too so it will be interesting how that works out. im going to try that myself with deep chunks soon.

if your canopy looks crowded then i would say that is probably good, true you only tend to get top colas but then they tend to make up most of the yield anyway so whether sog or scrog i think it pays to get as many buds as you can on the top deck. i guess its always trial and error with vegging but maybe a little longer and even trim the bottom buds to concentrate the energy in the top

good luck - and thanks for giving me the wet weight to dry weight formula - habdy thing to know.

one last thing, many people beleive you get a little more weight and better taste out of the buds if they dry them with all the leaves on (and trim afterwards). takes them a bit longer to dry but i've tried this recently and been converted. :D

probably most of this you know already but hope some of it helps

good luck

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lovely thread. I hope to participate in it.

my hesitation involves posting pictures. I hate to ask an off topic question like that here, so I wont.....

My cab to be is white board. 2 pieces. left side 13 x 13 x 32", right side is same with passive intakes cut out on all 3 sides. the intakes measure roughly 2" x 4", so 24 sq in of passive intake. There is a inline axial fan placed in the middle of that area, pulling cool air from the bottom left & right sides directly via Ducting. The back intake remains open & clear. There is a shelf directly over the intakes & fan on the this cabinet, alone. The left side, if u will, is open. Above this shelf & when both sides are pushed together, a shelf will be mounted in the middle of the cab, leaving 4" of open space on either side for air to circulate below. The lower shelf provides adequate light trapping & circulation with the middle shelf mounted so as to leave space on the sides. William Wonder sits on the middle shelf. The top is the light shelf. I am using 4 26w 6500k for veg & 4 42w 2700k for flower. I also use a 38w 3-way that seems to be at around 3500k. I would say it looks like the midway in color between the 26 & 42w, but it is definitely more on the red spectrum than blue/white. I have used the cab once with great success.
 

blynx

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Here's the dried buds

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I ended up with 38.46g dried from this round. Tho it went down slightly I still ended up with over an ounce of buds and a bunch of F2 seeds from the two masterlow crosses.
 

closettoker

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IC mag peeps,

I'm new here to ICMAG but have been on here as a guest for years. This thread made me sign up. Many Reps.

I'm not in on this yet, but here is my cab. its an old locker. You see the shelf and the plywood back. the shelf comes out and the plywood back comes out and you have a stealth grow area. hidden from everyone. a small fan and small carbon filter is installed.

Blynx,

I see your harvest went up with the larger Soil Container. This is good informaiton to share!

My area is 8inches by 11inches. with 68watts of CFL.

I'll have pics soon of my grow. I have 2 Original MasterLow plants from Mdanzig Seeds. I got them way back in 2006. Plan was to make a seed run, but the last 3 grows were all girls. I only have about 28 seeds left to make a seed run.


I would like to say thank for starting this sticky Blynx, it's great to see that people can still have a good harvest to keep bud in the bong, and keeping is stealthy, in small space and keep drug dealers out of there life. Small space grows rule! Lets all keep this thread going. Happy Growing.

Closettoker.....:thanks:
 

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BC Chronic

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hey everyone...I hope you all have had a Merry Christmas...
My girl is at day 45 now so there are 25 days to go...
I don't know what the exact total will be but she sure is getting bigger everyday..
I have 1.35 of cubic feet in my pc with 161 watts of cfl..6 lights to be exact..temps never get higher than 79 in there..the plant is an easyryder..
I have lights going up the side as you can see which really seems to have helped..I have been using Iguana Juice Bloom with some Big Bug and CarboLoad too..just to see if they would have any effect..
Please let me know what you all think..
Thanks
 

closettoker

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IC PEEPS, Well I'm Not going to come close to some of the others here. But I'll put up some picks. I'm new to post here, but I've been reading for years. I had to put my 2 cents in when I saw this thread. Its great. This type of grow is what I've been doing for years.

Sorry for the sideways pics. I'll try better next time. Forgot to tell you . Its under 3 100watt cfls. And the strain is Mdanzigs, Masterlow from 2005 or 2006. Trying for a Seed run next time. I'm running low.
 

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Boleman

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I would love to enter this contest, how do I do it... My first 1sq ft grow is complete... It is the last link on my signature!
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BC Chronic

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Hey all.. My grow is almost finished..17 days to go..
here are some pics
I'd love to hear your comments..
Thanks
 

TheeCrust

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Hey guys, I just started a PC grow and it is WAY micro, lol. The dimensions are 14" x 6.75" making it only .65 sq feet. I'm going to be getting a 50W HPS on Friday, so I might have pics up by then. Good luck everyone!

-By the way, this is my first grow!
 

closettoker

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Well here is mine...I think I'll have close to 28 Grams. Its all drying right now. Though I would take a couple of pics of the Two big colas.:dance013:
 

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BC Chronic

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Great job closettoker!! Nice buds..
2 days to go for me..here are some pics..buds are getting HUGE..
She is only maybe 14 inches tall and the main cola almost starts at the soil so thats 1 nice bud for sure..
Let me know what you all think...
Thanks
 

blynx

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Well here is mine...I think I'll have close to 28 Grams. Its all drying right now. Though I would take a couple of pics of the Two big colas.:dance013:

Looks good!

I am a little confused tho.

In your first post you said you are running 68 watts in 8"x11"

I'm not in on this yet, but here is my cab. its an old locker. You see the shelf and the plywood back. the shelf comes out and the plywood back comes out and you have a stealth grow area. hidden from everyone. a small fan and small carbon filter is installed.

My area is 8inches by 11inches. with 68watts of CFL.

but then you say that you are running 300 watts (3 x 100w) in the same area?

Sorry for the sideways pics. I'll try better next time. Forgot to tell you . Its under 3 100watt cfls.

Did you run the masterlows under 68w or 300w? That's quite a difference in wattage, especially for such a small area.

300w seems like overkill for such a small area.
 

BC Chronic

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Hey everyone..
My grow is done...161 watts in a 1square foot space ..I got a total of 114.7 wet grams so I hope to get 28 anyways which isn't bad for a 12 inch plant..
Let me know what you all think..
Thanks
 

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