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Whats up with hermis?

Relentless

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Man.. why are there so many hermi genetics floating around?
I know most will think its growers fault causing stress, but its not in my case..
Ive had the following strains hermi on me:
Dutch passion blueberry-known for showing hermi trait so oh well.
Blue hash-femenized, so not surprised
Cali Hash-femenized, not suprised
LA Confidential-this one im pissed about. i was really looking forward to keeping clones as a mom.. she showed a couple of sacks on the bottom of the plant, 2nd week of flower..

Again, I know Im not causing these hermis because ive ran a number of other strains in the very grows that these plants showed nanners or sacks, and the others didnt hermi.. i have a very stable environment, temps,rh,etc. no light leakage..

Ive seen la confidential hermi for people before.. i buddy just gave me some clones and all of the sudden he told me to go ahead and kill the cali o and white widow he gave me because they showed nanners..
whats up with all of these hermis going around? bad breeding?
 

motaco

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sounds like something fishy with your suppliers bro.

I don't think others are having those problems. If I had a garden of cali 0, WW, and la con from different sources go hermi my immediate thought wouldn't be breeders.
 

Mr. Greengenes

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The biggest influence is going to be genetics, but environment plays a part too, and drawing the line is famously difficult in any natural system. Assuming that because a plant hermied for someone else it will for you too is probably not great strategy, maybe your growroom is less stressful. In any case, a few bananas are no trouble to pick off and easy to spot once you learn to see them. The real trouble comes if you have fans blowing on plants, which you shouldn't anyway unless you're trying to simulate the desert or just like watching your girls do pushups.
 

Relentless

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the fan is like 4 ft above them and its on the lowest speed.. i really doubt in my case the fan is causing stress...

dp blueberry always hermis for people..
the blue hash and cali hash didnt hermi for me the first time i grew them, but i had to cut a few clones from a flowering plant, put into veg to reveg the clone, and then flowered the clone.. that clone hermied.. but i am not suprised due to the femenized seeds that they are, and the stress of reveg..
but the la confidential im pretty upset about.. i cant find any type of stress that i might be causing.. ive heard of la confidential herming for peeps before, but damn, its such fire herb.
 

Mr. Greengenes

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Duh, I din't mean to suggest the fans causing stress was the problem, but that blowing the pollin around was!
 
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THC_Decapitator

this is a interesting topic . Some of the best herb ive grown had hermi traits .
 
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HippyCrackTx

i believe that alot of this is happening from open cross pollination in outdoor seedcrops in Cali....you dont know who is growing what up wind from you ....and there is a literal ARMY of douchebags running out there trying to "cash in"....ive been growing indoors for 20 years and here is what hermied out on me in the past 6 months,ChemdogXTrainWreck,Sour Diesel(no surprise really considering its heritage)and Big Tex Blueberry.....bummer,my buddy up in Point Arena no less than 400 beautiful clones of the above genetics ALL herm out on him....ruined his entire season
 
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THC_Decapitator

your ladies don't go hermi from cross pollination . they simply would be pollinated and make seeds .
 
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JackTheGrower

It is possible to make all female seeds that don't hermi with a hermi parent.
I have done such. Some did hermi and was a sativa dom strain..
How the hand me down effects go I would assume that it would show up here and there.



Man.. why are there so many hermi genetics floating around?
I know most will think its growers fault causing stress, but its not in my case..
Ive had the following strains hermi on me:
Dutch passion blueberry-known for showing hermi trait so oh well.
Blue hash-femenized, so not surprised
Cali Hash-femenized, not suprised
LA Confidential-this one im pissed about. i was really looking forward to keeping clones as a mom.. she showed a couple of sacks on the bottom of the plant, 2nd week of flower..

Again, I know Im not causing these hermis because ive ran a number of other strains in the very grows that these plants showed nanners or sacks, and the others didnt hermi.. i have a very stable environment, temps,rh,etc. no light leakage..

Ive seen la confidential hermi for people before.. i buddy just gave me some clones and all of the sudden he told me to go ahead and kill the cali o and white widow he gave me because they showed nanners..
whats up with all of these hermis going around? bad breeding?
 
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HippyCrackTx

they would if the plants upwind have hermi tendencies...what im getting at here is the flowering of unstable/untested genetics outdoors and thus the eventual sale of said genetics on the bay while not listing them as untested....grrrrrrr
 
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BigTex

i believe that alot of this is happening from open cross pollination in outdoor seedcrops in Cali....you dont know who is growing what up wind from you ....and there is a literal ARMY of douchebags running out there trying to "cash in"....ive been growing indoors for 20 years and here is what hermied out on me in the past 6 months,ChemdogXTrainWreck,Sour Diesel(no surprise really considering its heritage)and Big Tex Blueberry.....bummer,my buddy up in Point Arena no less than 400 beautiful clones of the above genetics ALL herm out on him....ruined his entire season


Sorry to hear that hermi'd on ya! I hope you caught it before you got seeded! :dunno: Those were some F2's I made from BB I got from Dutch Passion. I ordered a 10 pack for last year to grow outdoors. It sucks to hear I paid over $100 for seeds with Hermi traits. Out of 10 I got 2 females & 8 males, but no hermi's. One female made over a lb. of some pretty dank smoke, the other was just ok. I plan to grow a few of those F2's out this year myself. Guess I better keep my eye out for some nanners! I had 2 hermi last year from Serious Seeds White Russian, those were the first hermi's I've had in several years.
Hey Hippy until you get 50 posts it's impossible for us to communicate. I'll be watching for you tho.
 

Phillthy

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i have 4 solid runs in my new room, completely dialed in environment wise. started the room with s1 seeds and no herms. grew out about 10 more strains with no issues. last round i had 3 of the 4 strains hermi on me. the very next round.... none. you should know ladies are always the sensitive type...lol.
 
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HippyCrackTx

yeah Tex...we caught it before anything went south,no biggie bro,as we were already on the high alert from the sour d that i spoke of....now i cant keep my missus from sitting in there staring at anything new with clippers and magnifying lens in her hand ready to kill everything at the drop of a hat hahaha! no bad words on you though brother.....unfortunately this shit DOES happen,workin on that post count slowly but surely,gonna get some pics of the SWT#3 that i got from Chrome.....its the real deal man,ran it before when Breeder Steve had it so i know what it looks like,and i have found it again thank the stars,last time we ran it we pulled down 3lbs of absolute kill from 3x600s over a 4x8 table....sorry i tend to ramble......peace
 

cr0n

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I got my first hermi ever in my last run. About 7 weeks into flower my Super Silver Chem Haze started chuckin' nanners. I have been picken them off like the nanner nazi.

I got 5 other strains in the room and no other hermi's. I do think it is a light leak in the room, not sure though. I know for a fact I have a bit of a light leak. I am going to re-seal it and run it one more time though.

Should I just kill it? I don't know what to do. What do you guys think?
 
If you know that you have a light leak DO NOT kill the plant. The Chem family is know to be sensitive. Dial in your room and run the cut again.
 

cr0n

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I still have a mom and I am going to fix the light leak and re-run her. She was an expensive one and I need to give her a shot or two. And she smell dank right now.

I just wanted to know if it was worth finishing the flowering plant. I will have to pluck alot of male flowers. It will be a pain in the ass.
 

Bighill

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I've got a hermi from every pack i've bought. I look for them, so i can axe them to move onto the stable phenos.

Mr meds in the AF section turned me onto a product called Ducth master reverse. Supposed to prevent male flowers(nanners), or some thing along those lines. google it, i got a jug on the ready, going to see what's the hype.

BH
 

supermanlives

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you want to know why theres so many hermies . well its because most breeders dont bother trying to breed them out. they breed for potency and yield .i talked to a breeder friend and he said trying to breed hermie trait out of a sativa is almost impossible but with indigas its easier. most breeders provide optimum conditions so they never see the hermie traits they continue breeding.stress testing should be part of the breeding program to weed out hermies. DAVESNOTHERE
 
Sometimes we think our grow rooms are not leaking cold air or light and we are mistaken... it has happened to me a few times with the new set up. I was doing really well and then the purple star I had hermied at 6 week sin and all my strawberry cough was hermieing too and those were the 2 strains I grew that never hermied before. Between a tiny light leak and a cold draft wafting down on my girls made them think winter was fast approaching and they started throwing nanners really hard. I know to expect hermieing with some of my other strains and I keep a closer eye on them... such as the denver sweet deisel and ecsd and velvet hammer dj short blueberry x pure power plant) I grow seem to throw nanners about the time they're ready for harvest, so I don't mind so much.
 
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