finding and dealing with prop 215 friendly landlords

[SouthernSmoker]

Ok everyone I am looking to make the jump to cali to do my thing .
To all nay sayers dont even bother posting up all your negative bs up here for I am not some 18 yr old kid !!!!!!!!!
I need to know how to find and what to expect in dealing with a prop 215 friendly landlord . any tips and tricks ???

 

[krunchbubble]

yup, heres a tip and a trick, there are none..............

 

[johnnyla]

lol. krunch.

 

[dopey the clown]

If you've got a few grand to spare, you could:

Go to oakland/humboldt/mendo et al. Hang around, live in a hotel or a month-to-month. Don't grow, yet. Smoke. Make friends. Then, when it feels right, ask around. There are landlords out there that rent to growers for a piece of the pie, but obviously they don't advertise in craigslist. Sorry to say that in my experience in CA and abroad doing this type of thing, the only real way is to try to make some friends on the ground. No real tricks that I've discovered.

GL, be careful...shady fucks in this world, especially in this economy..

 

[MrBananaSlug]

Why would you go through the trouble of trying to work your way into a landlord thats cool with it. Most landlords in CA don't give a shit as long as they get their rent at the beginning of the month and you don't call them about maintenance crap all the time. I've never once had a landlord come to my door when I didn't know he was coming.

 

[krunchbubble]

renting close to 30 houses in the last 17 years. i know for a fact that there are no prop 215 landlords around.
why would someone let you destroy there house for a piece of the pie? they own a house.......
why would someone rent to you knowing that electrical upgrades will need to be done, not to mention the fire hazard that is always there with a grow. they wont.....
why would someone who owns a house risk losing it for getting a piece of the pie? they wouldnt...........

only once did i make that mistake of the landlord knowing what i did. after he threatened me with calling the cops or he gets half my crop, i had to pull my 40 cal on him and get the fuck out........
never again.........

 

[SoCaliSmoker]

Best bet, (if you have good credit), deal with a property management company that is trying to rent the house for a landlord. That way, you can ask all kinds of questions to them without dealing directly with the landlord.

You want to know if the landlord is local, do they stop by often, why are they renting the place (if they may be close to losing their home, or trying to Short Sale because they can't afford the property), if the landlord is willing to negotiate on the term or pricing, things like that. It's easier to hustle a guy who wants a certain commission than deal with the owner of the house. The owner might find your questions suspicious.

 

[the Rock]

Why would you go through the trouble of trying to work your way into a landlord thats cool with it. Most landlords in CA don't give a shit as long as they get their rent at the beginning of the month and you don't call them about maintenance crap all the time. I've never once had a landlord come to my door when I didn't know he was coming.

i have a couple rental properties and I have learned the hard way.no matter how great you think the renter is you just never know. I come by unannounced all the time as there are some real shitbags who think since theyre paying rent they can do whatever
I wouldnt rent to a grower= just to much damage could occur unless i got like a 25K deposit

 

[SouthernSmoker]

so you are trying to tell me that in this economy with all the empty rental spaces out there that not one of them is prop 215 friendly and that they would rather there space sit empty than to rent to a med patient for alittle extra to allow them to do a med grow . so all landlords in cali are against prop 215 and they would rather go broke than to rent to a med grower .

I find that hard to believe !!!!! krunchbubble

 

[theJointedOne]

there shouldnt be any damage if you do it the right way

 

[SouthernSmoker]

first i am not one of those shit baggs that grows and destroys property I live where i grow and you would never even know it was there after i move i fix and put everything back in place just like it was when i moved in .
If the landlord has nothing to do with the med grow how can they get in trouble ?????

 

[SoCaliSmoker]

first i am not one of those shit baggs that grows and destroys property I live where i grow and you would never even know it was there after i move i fix and put everything back in place just like it was when i moved in .
If the landlord has nothing to do with the med grow how can they get in trouble ?????

I guess it all depends on the money your investing and how many lights your running. If you have plants on the floor, plants can be thrown in trashbags, spills can be cleaned up by a shop-vacuum or a professional service, but lighting and electricity becomes an issue.

If your doing 2k in lights, you can plug it in the wall. If you have shitty breakers, you can plug one light in the bathroom and one in the kitchen. No worries.

But if your running a big operation, maybe up to 10k in lights or more, then YES, you have a BIG SITUATION HERE. If you think you can just power up any ol' home like that, then you are 100% going to snap, crackle and POP, and possibly burn the house down.

Regardless of how careful we are, it all depends on how much your willing to pay and most people chince on things they can get away with. Sometimes it's worth it for the extra $3,000 to get things done right.

 

[SouthernSmoker]

ok I am looking at setting up @8000w the electric will be installed by a pro Money for the grow and equipment is all taken care off along with about 6 months living expenses this will be a no corners cut op not a getto grow trying to get rich quick .
I am wanting to beable to use my meds without having to look over my shoulder every five seconds not to mention the meds that are extra have already been spoken for .

I dont want to have to shut down shop in the middle because a landlord will be knocking on my door that does not know about the op .
trying to setup a med grow with as little headaches as possible and be in full compliance with cali law .
so what are my options ?

 

[SoCaliSmoker]

I dont want to have to shut down shop in the middle because a landlord will be knocking on my door that does not know about the op . trying to setup a med grow with as little headaches as possible and be in full compliance with cali law .
so what are my options ?

Now were talking!

Your taking the right steps to make things happen and I'm glad you've planned ahead. I walked the same path you did, I found at least 50 -100 warehouses that were for rent, even at 50cents a square foot (which is ridiculous in Cali) and my first warehouses I found I actually told the broker what I was doing, that I was registered, legit, had an Attorney, had my scripts for my patients, would post them on-site, get insurance if possible and do whatever it took to grow within the law, but I was denied on my first 3 attempts.

One guy got all nervous "yeah, ummm, o.kkk, and hung up on me" like I was a drug dealer.

Then the warehouse went out of the question and I just looked for rentals. There really isn't a way for you to be in the 100% clear unless the property manager tells you that the landlord is travelling in Asia (which mine was) and you would not have to worry about check-ups. It's tough trying to do what your doing, but for the time being, there really isn't a 100% fool-proof way to walk in a spot and start growing. You have to take your chances right now

 

[Lil 'o Me]

Why would someone, whom you've never before met, allow you to have a grow in their rental propertie? Comming from a home owner in California.... your dreaming. There's no way I would, knowingly, allow a tenant to grow in my house. Theres way too much liability if the home owner knows..... not to mention dealing with insurance companys. Im sure your a legit and responsible person, but they dont know that from Joe Shmoe.

 

[SouthernSmoker]

Now were talking!

Your taking the right steps to make things happen and I'm glad you've planned ahead. I walked the same path you did, I found at least 50 -100 warehouses that were for rent, even at 50cents a square foot (which is ridiculous in Cali) and my first warehouses I found I actually told the broker what I was doing, that I was registered, legit, had an Attorney, had my scripts for my patients, would post them on-site, get insurance if possible and do whatever it took to grow within the law, but I was denied on my first 3 attempts.

One guy got all nervous "yeah, ummm, o.kkk, and hung up on me" like I was a drug dealer.

Then the warehouse went out of the question and I just looked for rentals. There really isn't a way for you to be in the 100% clear unless the property manager tells you that the landlord is travelling in Asia (which mine was) and you would not have to worry about check-ups. It's tough trying to do what your doing, but for the time being, there really isn't a 100% fool-proof way to walk in a spot and start growing. You have to take your chances right now

Thank you for being honest with me !!!
I am not just trying to get started I am a older grower that is just looking to simplify my life not get rich . I make plenty of money in my normal bizz to live on but being one of millions with no health ins and not being able to qualify for it at all has put me in debt like you could not believe so i figured that instead of facing 10 to 12 years where i live for a grow that going to cali and being in compliance with the laws in place would allow me to knock out some of that debt and give me allittle peace of mind .

from my research and visits an 8000w grow aint shit in cali so i should be able to stay on the down low and not have too much of a headache . The property is where i am running into trouble .

thanks all for the input !!!

 

[dopey the clown]

Just to reiterate-it happens all the time. When a piece of the pie=10 percent of your whogivesashit mids for a slight increase in rent, people laugh. When you build some semblance of a relationship with a person, explain how many times you've done this before, show the equipment, square the intangibles(we never had this conversation. I never knew what you were up to) and we start talking 10K watts on a flip...yeah. Of course, communication skills and so on play a major role here, like everywhere else in life.


That's what I'm talking about. Paying down a third of a mortgage within a year for sitting back with minimal risk to yourself-after all, you had no idea what was going on-is an enviable position for a lot of people in this economy. I've been apart of a situation like this personally once when I was just starting out and have seen it many times...take it for what it's worth, being the internet and all..

 

[SouthernSmoker]

Why would someone, whom you've never before met, allow you to have a grow in their rental propertie? Comming from a home owner in California.... your dreaming. There's no way I would, knowingly, allow a tenant to grow in my house. Theres way too much liability if the home owner knows..... not to mention dealing with insurance companys. Im sure your a legit and responsible person, but they dont know that from Joe Shmoe.

not knowing me is true and i could be a fucktard in there world for all i know .
I am just trying to get info on renting homes in cali
why would the home owner be introuble for a legit grow accoring to cali law are the cops still taking property away even if the grow is incompliance with there own state laws ?

 

[dopey the clown]

and one final post, a question: why California? Highest cost of living of all the med states by far(in a world of it's own...)while fetching roughly the same dollar amounts per lb(or less) than, for example, Colorado?

Just curious, not questioning, as you clearly have thought this through and have your mind made up. Just curious.

 

[zenoonez]

That's what I'm talking about. Paying down a third of a mortgage within a year for sitting back with minimal risk to yourself-after all, you had no idea what was going on-is an enviable position for a lot of people in this economy. I've been apart of a situation like this personally once when I was just starting out and have seen it many times...take it for what it's worth, being the internet and all..

How in fucks name would you justify that to the IRS?

and one final post, a question: why California? Highest cost of living of all the med states by far(in a world of it's own...)while fetching roughly the same dollar amounts per lb(or less) than, for example, Colorado?

Just curious, not questioning, as you clearly have thought this through and have your mind made up. Just curious.

Show me where in Colorado you can grow 100sqft per script legally. Don't you have to be a caregiver to grow in Colorado? And I can't say that I have seen that the market in Colorado pays any more per pound than in Cali.