WHAT THE HELL ARE THESE IN MY WATER!!!!

[Thundurkel]

Ok folks this has bugged me literally for a while now, I seem to have some kind of larva in my run off no matter what soil or coco I use and I don't know why or where they are coming from!!!!

see how they bunch together on top of the water? and they flop around and shit like fish outta water!

 

[OC80]

plants showing any signs?? thrips?

 

[vince514]

dude they almost look like maggots floting on top of the water.........and you mentioned they appear in your runoff???? for example. you hand water and out the bottom of your pots the runoff has these little white wigglers in it?????

dude thats messed up....... do you have flyes in the room??(dumb question but just wondering).........if it comes from the runoff i'd suggest to use some h2o2 hydrogen peroxide when watering around 1.25--2.0 ml per 4 liters that will most likely do some damage to those little wiggler bastards but it also kills microbs and enzymes but adds oxygen to the soil/coco...i'm not sure what those things are , but if their water born h2o2 will do them some damage...without damaging your plants......imho...

 

[zenoonez]

Just gas your pots with some argon for a few minutes and they should all be dead or at least that would be my guess.

 

[theHIGHlander]

thay look like thrips,,, (on steroids) , how far along are you?.....on your next round/grow,,,,stick all your pots in the bath with strong bleech/ disinfectant,,,,,the same with your room/box/cuboard give them a good clean.......are you 100% sure there not in the soil when bought?..do you reuse you soil/coco?

keep it green
highlander

 

[GeneticHeirloom]

Are they silverfish? Or maybe Drain fly larva? Drain fly larva looks like that, I Found them all the time when I was working for a plumbing company.

 

[Thundurkel]

I don't reuse my coco and I've found them in soil and in coco as well, I just got a bag of Bio Bizz Coco Mix which I haven't used before so we'll see what happens with this shit

 

[Harvest]

damn never seen those b4! here are some other pests, they look a lil like the fungas nats in the first pic

 

[nissan 420]

Well i get the same thing in my run-off. Hope someone knows what the hell they are.

 

[Thundurkel]

Are they silverfish? Or maybe Drain fly larva? Drain fly larva looks like that, I Found them all the time when I was working for a plumbing company.

Drain Fly larva? that sounds like it could be a candidate haha cuz I don't have knats flying around and it's almost like they come from the water cuz they only get time to hatch in the coco or soil and then flushed out the following morning when I water and I see the fuckers in my tray... Weird thing is they aren't causing problems from what I can tell

 

[Sativa_Grows]

Fungus Gnat larvae. Let your soil dry out more between waterings and top your soil with sand and or vermiculite.

 

[jyme]

looks like fungus gnats and that would be there larvae in your runoff it could also be thrips have you seen any small flying insects on your medium and if so it is fungus gnats if not it could be thrips ether way you treat them basicly the same there are many methods the choice is yours

 

[0'dweeds]

I have the same exact problem in my ebb n flow res and tables. I assumed they were fungus gnats but I NEVER see any bugs/flies flying around the room (I even purchased yellow sticky traps and they've caught nothing). I also purchased some "GoGnats" but that didn't seem to help much either. Can both thrips and fungus gnats hop around on top of water when bothered because these things can.

 

[ThisBuds4You]

Def fungus gnats (larve). You're gonna have an awesome time battling them with those air pots too. I used to have a problem with them until I really got on my game and started cleaning my grow areas. Suck up all the runoff after you water your plants. Wipe everything down. Clean your grow area once a week with a CLEANER. Sucks but it is what it is...

I know you grow in coco so letting them dry out is really NOT an option. I use a "top dressing" of perlite, that helps.

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TB4U

 

[Capn]

http://api.ning.com/files/pAcJ60yh6...mY1gT6SSN2s9Sj-mIhovk0Owt-5UO/springtails.jpghttp://api.ning.com/files/pAcJ60yh6...mY1gT6SSN2s9Sj-mIhovk0Owt-5UO/springtails.jpg

They're springtails. Look em up.

 

[stonedar]

pg. 54 of my Marajuana Garden Saver handbook for healthy plants shows a picture just like yours of fungus gnat larva in the runoff. perlite layer on top of container, move your pest strips closer. gonna be fun in airpots. I think I would bury the airpots in bigger containers, just plant the whole thing. get aggressive killing the adults use some neem oil or pyrethrum. keep the yellow stickies out, and top dress your containers with sand or perlite or diatomaceous earth to keep the adults from laying eggs in your soil/coco.

your airpots have already done their thing, which is to insure a really great root structure. now plant them so you can get rid of your pest issues.

 

[0'dweeds]

So now they're... thrips, fungus gnats, drain flies, spring tales.

I wish this wasn't so difficult...

 

[stonedar]

well thrips show up on the tops of leaves and the damage they do is fairly noticeable, as silver streaks across your leaves or leaves that looked scared. and are much less common than fungus gnats. plus thrisps leave alot of poop that you can see under leaves. if you see the larva in the runoff it's fungus gnats.

grab the stem down low and give it a good shake. see if you don't see the gnats then

 

[THC_Decapitator]

http://api.ning.com/files/pAcJ60yh6...mY1gT6SSN2s9Sj-mIhovk0Owt-5UO/springtails.jpg

They're springtails. Look em up.

yup there springtails ,
I had em before . mostly in soil but they can live and thrive in hydro . Most say there not harmful . I used to control them with sm-90/coriander oil in the reservoir or in a feeding .



Springtails are currently used in laboratory tests for the early detection of soil pollution. Acute and chronic toxicity tests have been performed by researchers, mostly using the parthenogenetic isotomid Folsomia candida[27]. These tests have been standardized[28]. More recently, avoidance tests have been also performed[29]. They are in way to be standardized, too. Avoidance tests are complementary to toxicity tests, but they also offer several advantages: they are more rapid (thus cheaper), more sensitive and they are environmentally more reliable, because in the real world Collembola may move far from pollution sources[30]. It may be hypothesized that the soil could become locally depauperated in animals (and thus improper to normal use) while below thresholds of toxicity. Contrary to earthworms, and like many insects and molluscs, Collembola are very sensitive to herbicides and thus are threatened in no-tillage agriculture, which makes a more intense use of herbicides than conventional agriculture.

 

[0'dweeds]

http://api.ning.com/files/pAcJ60yh6...mY1gT6SSN2s9Sj-mIhovk0Owt-5UO/springtails.jpghttp://api.ning.com/files/pAcJ60yh6...mY1gT6SSN2s9Sj-mIhovk0Owt-5UO/springtails.jpg

They're springtails. Look em up.

Hmm. Never heard of the these until now but their description seems to match (the whole jumping thing makes me think so).

Does any one know if fungus gnat and thrip larvae can "jump"? That would clear a lot up.