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BPJR

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Howdy,
Im looking for a definition for Kush. The term gets used so often these days and I feel alot of its use is just marketing.


I have heard the region it comes from ...e.g. Hindu Kush range area. The smell and flavor being Kush and the growth structure. What are typical Kush characteristics?

Whats defines a true Kush plant?


Cheers,
b
 

funkervogt

donut engineer
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"Kush refers to a subset of strains of indica cannabis. The origins of Kush cannabis are from landrace plants mainly in Afghanistan and sometimes, Iran, Pakistan, and Northern India,[1] with the name coming from the Hindu Kush mountain range.[2] "Hindu Kush" strains of cannabis were brought to the United States in the mid to late 1970s and continue to be available there to the present day.[3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kush_(cannabis)

This is how I'd define it, too - a landrace Indica (Afghan #1) or a landrace Indica-dom cross (Master Kush, Bubba Kush, etc).

OG Kush is not really Kush (unless it is), and is Kush only by name.
 

Synthettek

Active member
A lot of the "Kush" you hear being thrown around is just hype / marketing since people apparently go ape shit for whatever has "kush" thrown in there.
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
Veteran
og kush is just some really good smoke. thats why people love it. not because of the fucking NAME. hell back in 03 04 in san diego the purple monkey balls was talk of the town,,, you really think its becuse people like the name purple monkey balls??? fuck no, but that was some incredible smoke....:eggnog:
 

Dr.NO

Active member
Kushs are used in a fair amount of crosses too so there are strains out there with Kush in the name but aren't fully Kush genetically.
 

BPJR

Member
A lot of the "Kush" you hear being thrown around is just hype / marketing since people apparently go ape shit for whatever has "kush" thrown in there.


This is what I have been finding. It seems to have been turned into a marketing term.


og kush is just some really good smoke. thats why people love it. not because of the fucking NAME. hell back in 03 04 in san diego the purple monkey balls was talk of the town,,, you really think its becuse people like the name purple monkey balls??? fuck no, but that was some incredible smoke....:eggnog:

Id smoke purple monkey balls....lol
 

cannabisoptimus

New member
Cannabis Sativa with genetics originating from the Hindu Kush region of Afghanistan. Most likely the phenotypes lean in the direction of heavy Indica. OG Kush is the most popular example. MasterKush is more accurate as it is purely Kush from said region.
 
A lot of the "Kush" you hear being thrown around is just hype / marketing since people apparently go ape shit for whatever has "kush" thrown in there.


Ya but there are kush plants that are more kush than the land race kush....in fact, man there are some nice kush plants....they all have jagged leaves...very frosty nugs, a lot of leaf but it's due to their form and the buds have large calyxes that stick out and well...you just see a staut plant with nice buds and attractive vegetation...that really forms a kush plant....the word is thrown around, but some do deserve!

True, there are plants that might have been worked with kush...but the kush traits did not take over, become defined or even get worked into being capable of just that.

Pure Kush, the Bubba kushes, the very early OG kush plants....not sure about Mazar kush, heck even X-18 shows kush traits just not 'cali' kush plants that are very much breed to be more kush than Hindu kush...which can be more pear shaped buds but not what someone is looking for.

Instead of a pear shaped bud it's is round with a 'crown' of calyxes that protrude then under a large set of fan leaves there are many more calyxes that protrude and just show crystal delight....most pure kush plants have a soft 'cushy' trichrome appearance....then your bubba especially katsu has a glitter....the OG does too but some really show to much sativa and lack of kush...some master kush seems worked in to be like bubba...

Basically if it has the set defined features it's a kush, it's a plant structure to me...more important than smell and taste...if it has fruity flavors and the same growth pattern...I'm even more grateful.

The X-18 just doesn't pop out calyxes quite like a cali kush and even hindu kush doesn't...but the hindu kush is more leafy and the X-18 has thin growth traits but a kush like appearance...

Don't confuse land race kush or other Pakistani range plants with cali kush....but you could work those plants into a nice kush...very thick plants...but cali kush doesn't survive so well outdoors, they veg very slow and stocky which is great for indoor grow tables that have height limits.......but a pain for someone in a hurry, I saw Afghani plants just veg so much quicker than even DC crosses, that is something even the Hindu kush did....over worked strains do not veg quickly........very narrow selections with the Cali kush, people find one killer mom and clone only it....which doesn't even show up in crosses that were not worked as much.

The pure kush crosses did well but I have not see one seed release that was actually good enough...people say that time and time again...so these kush debates do not have my respect, if it's not in seed form and stabilized....clones are for propaganda and admired for their appeal.

Even crossing these Cali kush plants with original select hindu kush, is going to take some searching...although there are some refined hindu kush that are not on the market...that have great resin, plant structure (includes buds) but not that cali kush that really shows off fat leafs and chunky buds that don't need trimmed.

Real hindu kush is a leafy plant, it needs refined to resemble modern kush plants....it's been worked for a very long time in cali.
 

BPJR

Member
Cannabis Sativa with genetics originating from the Hindu Kush region of Afghanistan. Most likely the phenotypes lean in the direction of heavy Indica. OG Kush is the most popular example. MasterKush is more accurate as it is purely Kush from said region.


Thats good info. Thanks.
 
cannabisoptimus, OG is the only kush with sativa...that actually shows kush plants, but then again it was a high selection that only used sativa for increased potency....there are OG plants that do suck and not at all showing kush genetics...sativa genetics dominate, so any breeding with OG is a very long flowering sativa, I found some short ones but it really throws the gene pool around...that is why people find one mother, that shows indica plants with sativa power!

There was a OG S1 that showed promise, but it had very narrow leaves, very tight buds that were flowering quickly....it gets like that with indica sativa hybrids...traits all mixed up, so selecting on leaf form is not enough. Indica leaves is not a direct expression of indica buds...the indica leafed plants had very sativa buds, loose airy buds and long flowering....then the sativa leafed plant had the more indica buds...but I didn't get to flower her long enough to see how fat and indica they got.

If anyone wants to make their own kush plants, keep a sativa out of the program unless you have massive space...talking greenhouse with hundreds of soil plants...as well as documenting and keeping pollen/cuts of potentials until you flower them out completely.

It's much easier to just work in a Hindu Kush strain with another Indica...like bubba was just hindu kush and bubble gum, bubble gum is a very staut indica but with some sativa...and they surely selected out of probably many people doing work...the old trade game!

Nobody knows everything about their cannabis corner of the world, people like to think they are an authority and know everything that went on in a breeding program...that involved 'friends'....but man stoners have more secrets than communist.
 
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