Peeps raggin on my vert setup, is it right?

[Relentless]

Everyone on the other forums keep saying im loosing lumens and the lower bulb is useless, I shouldnt have one stacked ontop of the other.. the lower one is lighting the underside of the leaves which causes BIG problems..
Ive seen this setup time and time again, and i thought people got great results..
its two digital 600s in a 4.6x4.6x6.6 tent.. There are 3 purple wreck ladies and 1 la confidential.. pw vegd for 10wks and la con like 11 to get em big.. pw just finished 2nd week of flower, la con just finished 1st wk of flower..
My last grow I used 1 vertical 600 for some clones and it did great..
Opinions?

 

[LiLWaynE]

As long as you spin the plants around from time to time, i think it will work well.

 

[fsttimes81]

other forums WhyTF would you ever go anywhere else???? But honestly 1200 watts for 2 plants seems like alot!!!

 

[Randybobandy]

Dude your shit is pimp. Just raise it as they grow. the bulb should be a little over the canopy. Like 6". Good job.

 

[Relentless]

thanks guys.
Its actually 4 plants.. 3 purple wreck and 1 la confidential.. all vegd for 10-11wks to get em bigger.. this was under 18hr on a 2' 8 bulb 192w flouro(flat veg).

The bottom light is at the middle/bottom side of the plants and the upper light is right above the canopy! I thought this was a good setup, lol.
As they stretch I plan to take books out from under the plants(lowering them) and raising the whole light/scrubber setup..


edit: I only have 4 plants in the flowering tent because I was doing a seed run.. i ran 7 pw and got 4 males and ran 4 la con and got 3 males .
Ive got a double gum mom and blue hash mom that Im letting get a little bigger, they are shorter flowering plants so Im going to put those two in next week.. that way Ill have 6..
But I would like more in there.. just finding my mothers still..
eventually Id like to have 4 separate shelving units, one on each wall, and like 3 shelves on each unit.. and a row of plants on the bottom.. that is the idea anyways.. prob wont be able to do that for a long time since Im findin my mums.

Also, I spin the plants daily, and rotate them to different positions every watering..

thanks guys!

 

[FreezerBoy]

Height-wise, it doesn't look like you need two at the moment but, with trees like that, I'd think you need two by the end.

The wasted lumens comment is probably about the low plant count.

 

[Relentless]

na they were saying my tent looks dark. lol.
they said that the bottom light is only doing harm because its shining on the underside of the leaves and will create serious problems with photosynthesis..

thanks for the posts guys!

 

[GrowerGoneWild]

Everyone on the other forums keep saying im loosing lumens and the lower bulb is useless, I shouldnt have one stacked ontop of the other.. the lower one is lighting the underside of the leaves which causes BIG problems..
Ive seen this setup time and time again, and i thought people got great results..

I dont think the lower one is useless. I think it needs to be raised a bit. Its more of an issue with using the bottom bulb more effectively.

 

[pulse]

something hasnt been mentionned yet:
why dont you put you carbon scrubber on top of the lamp and vice-versa with the extractor

whenever you have (or not) another extractor your plants would be happier with the extraction on top of the cab

i would definitively get another cool-tube (or make one with the two you have) and stack the bulbs on top of each others.
about this, i remember i have seen a topic on cool-tubes and it was may be about this exact subject , may worth a search...

 

[aligee]

it's looks good from here ! I have two 600's stacked in cooltubes one on top the other vertical is the way you should have a pretty good yield bro!!!

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

something hasnt been mentionned yet:
why dont you put you carbon scrubber on top of the lamp and vice-versa with the extractor

whenever you have (or not) another extractor your plants would be happier with the extraction on top of the cab

I agree. Seems like heat would be extracted better if you flipped that lamp/scubber assembly over. Whether you duct the heat high or low isn't as critical. Nice looking setup.

The peeps that say your setup looks "dark" don't realized they'd get sunburn and cataracts if they were actually there, lol.

In my experience, leaves will turn correctly toward the light on their own, you might have to help a few out on occasion.

 

[choch]

The plan you have is ideal and will work out great. The following comments are in no way ragging on your setup.

With this current grow the light position isn't ideal because the majority of the plant isn't directly beside a bulb getting the full power of the side lighting.

I've never grown vert with cooltubes and my one concern about doing so is that I will lose so much control over the position of my bulbs in relation to each other. The large gap between the bulbs in your setup is the only concern I see, as it is preventing you from directing the full power of the two bulbs onto your plants. Ideally the bottom bulb should be raised up alongside the plants more, without raising the top bulb up higher than it is now.

I saw a thread where another member had removed the metal flanges from the ends of the tubes where the two tubes connect, allowing him to butt the two pieces of glass together which he then clamped them together quite nicely. This would bring the bulbs noticably closer together and might improve your yield this time around.

Just thought I'd throw that out there. Good luck on finding some keepers out of these plants!

 

[hilbie]

dont rotate your plants, big no no im told, keep them faceing the light from one side the whole way through flower.

looks like overkill for me, u just dont have the plant count, now if they get really tall your extra lighting will help. id unplug one for know and just keep one a little bit high.

theres no point in growing horizontal imo.. why anybody wants to give up floor space and usuable light is beyond me.. so if any ones hating on the vertical they just dont know yet.

 

[Talonted]

you should be sucking air out of the room from the top. The hot air wont enchange as efficiently and your intake should be on the bottom. With only the couple plants i would just hang each bulb over each plant because, dont verts mean plants growing on walls? or is that just a round room concept?

 

[sackoweed]

yea tell all them fucks at the other forums sackO said to fuck off and go smoke pole.. your setup is nice there is some good advice given above. I dont want to sound like a parrot.. good luck peace n puffs.

sackO

 

[sunnydog]

It will work just fine.
As long as you have a good blower , the heat up/ heat down thing does not matter. Have a fan to circulate air.



SD

 

[bobblehead]

DO NOT rotate your plants. That just stressful for the plant, having to rotate... Energy that can be spent on bud production! Why wouldn't more buds just grow on the front of the plants, ya know? We trim bud sites that don't get light so the energy goes to the bigger bud sites... The energy will just go to the side of the plant in the light. The plant doesn't care if it's perfectly symmetric.

I think you need to raise the lights, or maybe you could get away with just the high one, cause you're not going to get much from the bottom one... imho...

 

[bobblehead]

Just raise the lights and grow bigger plants man... nice setup.

 

[VAtransplant]

dude has probably already harvested all of this. he inspired my initial setup, but i don't think he really posts here anymore.

 

[Relentless]

hey guys, ya i have made like 3 or 4 harvests out of this setup.. ranging from a small sog to low amounts of bigger trees to high amounts of bigger trees.. it works great!